Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
No. For example, you can legitimately purchase advance tickets without
having yet bought your railcard. The tickets will be valid if you have (and can show) the right railcard on the day of travel. So I could buy an
advance ticket today for travel in a month?s time, and only buy the
railcard the day before travel.
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:It?s possible those rules might change, ie you need to have a railcard at
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
No. For example, you can legitimately purchase advance tickets without
having yet bought your railcard. The tickets will be valid if you have (and >> can show) the right railcard on the day of travel. So I could buy an
advance ticket today for travel in a month?s time, and only buy the
railcard the day before travel.
the time of ticket purchase.
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:It?s possible those rules might change, ie you need to have a railcard at
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
No. For example, you can legitimately purchase advance tickets without
having yet bought your railcard. The tickets will be valid if you have (and >> can show) the right railcard on the day of travel. So I could buy an
advance ticket today for travel in a month?s time, and only buy the
railcard the day before travel.
the time of ticket purchase.
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 11:21:14 +0000, Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
According to the BBC article posted in another thread: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce94k3v3rvro
The new system for checking railcards comes in response to several
cases where the ORR said passengers appeared to have made genuine
mistakes when using a railcard, yet were still pursued for fare
evasion.
In future, railcard users will have to complete what is described as a "simple verification step", whether they buy their ticket online, at a machine or in a ticket office.
Once verified, passengers will automatically see the correct discount
they are entitled to. Trials are due to begin later this year, on the
Greater Anglia and C2C networks.
The government says the new scheme will help passengers feel confident
they were purchasing valid tickets, as well as preventing fraudulent
use.
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 11:21:14 +0000, Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
According to the BBC article posted in another thread: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce94k3v3rvro
The new system for checking railcards comes in response to several
cases where the ORR said passengers appeared to have made genuine
mistakes when using a railcard, yet were still pursued for fare
evasion.
In future, railcard users will have to complete what is described as a "simple verification step", whether they buy their ticket online, at a machine or in a ticket office.
Once verified, passengers will automatically see the correct discount
they are entitled to. Trials are due to begin later this year, on the
Greater Anglia and C2C networks.
The government says the new scheme will help passengers feel confident
they were purchasing valid tickets, as well as preventing fraudulent
use.
On 17/03/2026 11:28, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 11:21:14 +0000, Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
According to the BBC article posted in another thread: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce94k3v3rvro
The new system for checking railcards comes in response to several
cases where the ORR said passengers appeared to have made genuine
mistakes when using a railcard, yet were still pursued for fare
evasion.
In future, railcard users will have to complete what is described as a "simple verification step", whether they buy their ticket online, at a machine or in a ticket office.
Once verified, passengers will automatically see the correct discount
they are entitled to. Trials are due to begin later this year, on the Greater Anglia and C2C networks.
The government says the new scheme will help passengers feel confident
they were purchasing valid tickets, as well as preventing fraudulent
use.
The ticket machines I use mostly (SWR) have a box you have to tick to confirm you have a railcard. They've had this as lnog as I've had a
railcard so hardly new.
On 17/03/2026 11:28, Scott wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 11:21:14 +0000, Jack Harry Teesdale
<noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
According to the BBC article posted in another thread:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce94k3v3rvro
The new system for checking railcards comes in response to several
cases where the ORR said passengers appeared to have made genuine
mistakes when using a railcard, yet were still pursued for fare
evasion.
In future, railcard users will have to complete what is described as a
"simple verification step", whether they buy their ticket online, at a
machine or in a ticket office.
Once verified, passengers will automatically see the correct discount
they are entitled to. Trials are due to begin later this year, on the
Greater Anglia and C2C networks.
The government says the new scheme will help passengers feel confident
they were purchasing valid tickets, as well as preventing fraudulent
use.
The ticket machines I use mostly (SWR) have a box you have to tick to confirm you have a railcard. They've had this as lnog as I've had a
railcard so hardly new.
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:It?s possible those rules might change, ie you need to have a railcard at
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
No. For example, you can legitimately purchase advance tickets without
having yet bought your railcard. The tickets will be valid if you have (and >>> can show) the right railcard on the day of travel. So I could buy an
advance ticket today for travel in a month?s time, and only buy the
railcard the day before travel.
the time of ticket purchase.
The source DfT press release is here, it isn?t very helpful
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/delay-repay-changes-will-make-rail-travel-easier-under-great-british-railways
On 17/03/2026 11:21, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
How do you validate a railcard?
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 12:12:46 +0000, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 17/03/2026 11:21, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
How do you validate a railcard?
At the moment you don't.
Presumably if you had to you'd either give its number or scan its QR
code.
On 17/03/2026 11:49, Tweed wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:It?s possible those rules might change, ie you need to have a railcard at >>> the time of ticket purchase.
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
No. For example, you can legitimately purchase advance tickets without >>>> having yet bought your railcard. The tickets will be valid if you have (and
can show) the right railcard on the day of travel. So I could buy an
advance ticket today for travel in a month?s time, and only buy the
railcard the day before travel.
The source DfT press release is here, it isn?t very helpful
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/delay-repay-changes-will-make-rail-travel-easier-under-great-british-railways
It is not clear what happens if you buy your ticket on the day of travel
- and then your train is cancelled. Will you still be able to get a refund ?
Bevan Price <bevanprice666@gmail.com> wrote:
On 17/03/2026 11:49, Tweed wrote:
Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:It?s possible those rules might change, ie you need to have a railcard at >>>> the time of ticket purchase.
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
No. For example, you can legitimately purchase advance tickets without >>>>> having yet bought your railcard. The tickets will be valid if you have (and
can show) the right railcard on the day of travel. So I could buy an >>>>> advance ticket today for travel in a month?s time, and only buy the
railcard the day before travel.
The source DfT press release is here, it isn?t very helpful
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/delay-repay-changes-will-make-rail-travel-easier-under-great-british- arrailways
It is not clear what happens if you buy your ticket on the day of travel
- and then your train is cancelled. Will you still be able to get a refund ? >>
AIUI, yes.
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 12:12:46 +0000, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 17/03/2026 11:21, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
How do you validate a railcard?
At the moment you don't.
Presumably if you had to you'd either give its number or scan its QR
code.
In message <bs0jrktcmj5j06psnfe58a9p3n304u48ng@4ax.com>, at 16:40:18 on
Tue, 17 Mar 2026, Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> remarked:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 12:12:46 +0000, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 17/03/2026 11:21, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
How do you validate a railcard?
At the moment you don't.
Presumably if you had to you'd either give its number or scan its QR
code.
If you have the railcard on your phone, and you are using an app to buy
the ticket, how do you scan the QR code. Is it some sort of trick by
holding the phone, with two windows open, up to a mirror?
On 17/03/2026 16:40, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 12:12:46 +0000, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 17/03/2026 11:21, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
How do you validate a railcard?
At the moment you don't.
Presumably if you had to you'd either give its number or scan its QR
code.
It's a 15 digit alpha-numeric number and no QR code. Can see that
causing problems.
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 16:57:32 +0000, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 17/03/2026 16:40, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 12:12:46 +0000, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 17/03/2026 11:21, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
How do you validate a railcard?
At the moment you don't.
Presumably if you had to you'd either give its number or scan its QR
code.
It's a 15 digit alpha-numeric number and no QR code. Can see that
causing problems.
Mine, on my phone, has a QR code. There's billions of bank
transactions being verified daily by means of a 16 digit number so I
din't see why a 15 digit railcard number should cause any difficulty.
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 16:57:32 +0000, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 17/03/2026 16:40, Peter Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 12:12:46 +0000, Graeme Wall
<rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 17/03/2026 11:21, Jack Harry Teesdale wrote:
Railcard users will be rquired to validate their railcards when
purchasing tickets according to the Office of Rail Regulation.
I thought this was already required?
How do you validate a railcard?
At the moment you don't.
Presumably if you had to you'd either give its number or scan its QR
code.
It's a 15 digit alpha-numeric number and no QR code. Can see that
causing problems.
Mine, on my phone, has a QR code. There's billions of bank
transactions being verified daily by means of a 16 digit number so I
din't see why a 15 digit railcard number should cause any difficulty.
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