• wiring up alternate desktop power switch Dell XPS 420?

    From Harvey Sanenbum@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 31, 2026 09:22:57
    I have an old Dell XPS 420 desktop that wouldn't power on today. I had
    a hunch that it might be the front power switch, so disconnected the
    power from the motherboard and then located the green wire on the power supply. However, much to my surprise, there were two green wires. When
    I jumpered one to ground, nothing, but when jumpering the other, power
    supply fan started up.

    Before reconnecting power to the motherboard, I cut the green wire that
    did work and temporarily extended it with a jumper wire. Power was reconnected and the jumper wire to ground. The power supply started,
    but it was only after I then pressed the front power button on the
    desktop that it started right up. In fact, I'm sending this message
    from it now.

    I'm a little confused about the wiring and power switch type. The
    switch must have only partially failed since it still works with the aforementioned configuration. However, I think the option, to get
    things back to normal, is to either replace it, which I think would be
    next to impossible given the old age of the PC, or simply wire up a
    toggle as a substitute, but not sure of the wiring.

    Might it be as simple as snipping that additional green wire, splicing
    both green wires together, and have that go to ground for start up/ turn
    off, or is it something more? I almost think a temporary switch is
    needed somewhere since the front power button is only depressed until
    power up and then released.

    trying to keep everything simple, but it seems a little complicated to
    me. Thanks in advance for any help.

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  • From legg@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 31, 2026 11:36:58
    On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 09:22:57 -0500, Harvey Sanenbum
    <harvey50120@micro.net> wrote:

    Dell XPS 420

    The supply looks generic, so replacing it shouldn't
    be a big deal.

    RL

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  • From Bennett Price@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 31, 2026 09:46:39
    On 1/31/2026 6:22 AM, Harvey Sanenbum wrote:
    I have an old Dell XPS 420 desktop that wouldn't power on today.ÿ I had
    a hunch that it might be the front power switch, so disconnected the
    power from the motherboard and then located the green wire on the power supply.ÿ However, much to my surprise, there were two green wires.ÿ When
    I jumpered one to ground, nothing, but when jumpering the other, power supply fan started up.

    Before reconnecting power to the motherboard, I cut the green wire that
    did work and temporarily extended it with a jumper wire.ÿ Power was reconnected and the jumper wire to ground.ÿ The power supply started,
    but it was only after I then pressed the front power button on the
    desktop that it started right up.ÿ In fact, I'm sending this message
    from it now.

    I'm a little confused about the wiring and power switch type.ÿ The
    switch must have only partially failed since it still works with the aforementioned configuration.ÿ However, I think the option, to get
    things back to normal, is to either replace it, which I think would be
    next to impossible given the old age of the PC, or simply wire up a
    toggle as a substitute, but not sure of the wiring.

    Might it be as simple as snipping that additional green wire, splicing
    both green wires together, and have that go to ground for start up/ turn off, or is it something more?ÿ I almost think a temporary switch is
    needed somewhere since the front power button is only depressed until
    power up and then released.

    trying to keep everything simple, but it seems a little complicated to
    me.ÿ Thanks in advance for any help.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you fixed the problem and
    there's no need to replace the front panel power switch.

    I'm unclear, however, whether the power switch is, by design, a
    momentary contact switch - only on while depressed, or a toggle switch -
    on when depressed and remains on until pushed again when in turns off.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.8
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Harvey Sanenbum@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 31, 2026 13:32:39
    On 1/31/26 12:46 PM, Bennett Price wrote:
    On 1/31/2026 6:22 AM, Harvey Sanenbum wrote:
    I have an old Dell XPS 420 desktop that wouldn't power on today.ÿ I
    had a hunch that it might be the front power switch, so disconnected
    the power from the motherboard and then located the green wire on the
    power supply.ÿ However, much to my surprise, there were two green
    wires.ÿ When I jumpered one to ground, nothing, but when jumpering the
    other, power supply fan started up.

    Before reconnecting power to the motherboard, I cut the green wire
    that did work and temporarily extended it with a jumper wire.ÿ Power
    was reconnected and the jumper wire to ground.ÿ The power supply
    started, but it was only after I then pressed the front power button
    on the desktop that it started right up.ÿ In fact, I'm sending this
    message from it now.

    I'm a little confused about the wiring and power switch type.ÿ The
    switch must have only partially failed since it still works with the
    aforementioned configuration.ÿ However, I think the option, to get
    things back to normal, is to either replace it, which I think would be
    next to impossible given the old age of the PC, or simply wire up a
    toggle as a substitute, but not sure of the wiring.

    Might it be as simple as snipping that additional green wire, splicing
    both green wires together, and have that go to ground for start up/
    turn off, or is it something more?ÿ I almost think a temporary switch
    is needed somewhere since the front power button is only depressed
    until power up and then released.

    trying to keep everything simple, but it seems a little complicated to
    me.ÿ Thanks in advance for any help.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you fixed the problem and
    there's no need to replace the front panel power switch.

    Sort of. I have a SPST toggle switch that connects the one green line
    to the power supply and ground. I cut that green line to the
    motherboard. If I enable the toggle switch, the power supply fan begins
    to turn at a rapid pace until I press the button on the front of the
    desktop, then boot up as normal.

    So, by activating the toggle switch I added, and then pushing the PC
    power button on the front of the desktop momentarily, the PC boots up.

    If no other solution, I guess I could use it this way either until I
    find out the correct wiring data for replacing with a single switch or obtaining an original replacement PC switch board. I really need to
    have this desktop functional.


    I'm unclear, however, whether the power switch is, by design, a
    momentary contact switch - only on while depressed, or a toggle switch -
    on when depressed and remains on until pushed again when in turns off.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.8
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Bennett Price@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 31, 2026 20:06:08
    On 1/31/2026 10:32 AM, Harvey Sanenbum wrote:
    On 1/31/26 12:46 PM, Bennett Price wrote:
    On 1/31/2026 6:22 AM, Harvey Sanenbum wrote:
    I have an old Dell XPS 420 desktop that wouldn't power on today.ÿ I
    had a hunch that it might be the front power switch, so disconnected
    the power from the motherboard and then located the green wire on the
    power supply.ÿ However, much to my surprise, there were two green
    wires.ÿ When I jumpered one to ground, nothing, but when jumpering
    the other, power supply fan started up.

    Before reconnecting power to the motherboard, I cut the green wire
    that did work and temporarily extended it with a jumper wire.ÿ Power
    was reconnected and the jumper wire to ground.ÿ The power supply
    started, but it was only after I then pressed the front power button
    on the desktop that it started right up.ÿ In fact, I'm sending this
    message from it now.

    I'm a little confused about the wiring and power switch type.ÿ The
    switch must have only partially failed since it still works with the
    aforementioned configuration.ÿ However, I think the option, to get
    things back to normal, is to either replace it, which I think would
    be next to impossible given the old age of the PC, or simply wire up
    a toggle as a substitute, but not sure of the wiring.

    Might it be as simple as snipping that additional green wire,
    splicing both green wires together, and have that go to ground for
    start up/ turn off, or is it something more?ÿ I almost think a
    temporary switch is needed somewhere since the front power button is
    only depressed until power up and then released.

    trying to keep everything simple, but it seems a little complicated
    to me.ÿ Thanks in advance for any help.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you fixed the problem and
    there's no need to replace the front panel power switch.

    Sort of.ÿ I have a SPST toggle switch that connects the one green line
    to the power supply and ground.ÿ I cut that green line to the
    motherboard.ÿ If I enable the toggle switch, the power supply fan begins
    to turn at a rapid pace until I press the button on the front of the desktop, then boot up as normal.

    So, by activating the toggle switch I added, and then pushing the PC
    power button on the front of the desktop momentarily, the PC boots up.

    If no other solution, I guess I could use it this way either until I
    find out the correct wiring data for replacing with a single switch or obtaining an original replacement PC switch board.ÿ I really need to
    have this desktop functional.


    I'm unclear, however, whether the power switch is, by design, a
    momentary contact switch - only on while depressed, or a toggle switch
    - on when depressed and remains on until pushed again when in turns off.

    And what happens if both greens are permanently connected to ground?
    Does the fan start w/o pressing the front panel switch?

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.10
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From legg@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 13:43:37
    On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 13:32:39 -0500, Harvey Sanenbum
    <harvey50120@micro.net> wrote:

    On 1/31/26 12:46 PM, Bennett Price wrote:
    On 1/31/2026 6:22 AM, Harvey Sanenbum wrote:
    I have an old Dell XPS 420 desktop that wouldn't power on today.? I
    had a hunch that it might be the front power switch, so disconnected
    the power from the motherboard and then located the green wire on the
    power supply.? However, much to my surprise, there were two green
    wires.? When I jumpered one to ground, nothing, but when jumpering the
    other, power supply fan started up.

    Before reconnecting power to the motherboard, I cut the green wire
    that did work and temporarily extended it with a jumper wire.? Power
    was reconnected and the jumper wire to ground.? The power supply
    started, but it was only after I then pressed the front power button
    on the desktop that it started right up.? In fact, I'm sending this
    message from it now.

    I'm a little confused about the wiring and power switch type.? The
    switch must have only partially failed since it still works with the
    aforementioned configuration.? However, I think the option, to get
    things back to normal, is to either replace it, which I think would be
    next to impossible given the old age of the PC, or simply wire up a
    toggle as a substitute, but not sure of the wiring.

    Might it be as simple as snipping that additional green wire, splicing
    both green wires together, and have that go to ground for start up/
    turn off, or is it something more?? I almost think a temporary switch
    is needed somewhere since the front power button is only depressed
    until power up and then released.

    trying to keep everything simple, but it seems a little complicated to
    me.? Thanks in advance for any help.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you fixed the problem and
    there's no need to replace the front panel power switch.

    Sort of. I have a SPST toggle switch that connects the one green line
    to the power supply and ground. I cut that green line to the
    motherboard. If I enable the toggle switch, the power supply fan begins
    to turn at a rapid pace until I press the button on the front of the >desktop, then boot up as normal.

    So, by activating the toggle switch I added, and then pushing the PC
    power button on the front of the desktop momentarily, the PC boots up.

    If no other solution, I guess I could use it this way either until I
    find out the correct wiring data for replacing with a single switch or >obtaining an original replacement PC switch board. I really need to
    have this desktop functional.


    I'm unclear, however, whether the power switch is, by design, a
    momentary contact switch - only on while depressed, or a toggle switch -
    on when depressed and remains on until pushed again when in turns off.

    Response to power-on is in bios - check coin cell battery on mobo.

    RL

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.10
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Harvey Sanenbum@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 15:28:21
    On 2/1/26 1:43 PM, legg wrote:
    On Sat, 31 Jan 2026 13:32:39 -0500, Harvey Sanenbum
    <harvey50120@micro.net> wrote:

    On 1/31/26 12:46 PM, Bennett Price wrote:
    On 1/31/2026 6:22 AM, Harvey Sanenbum wrote:
    I have an old Dell XPS 420 desktop that wouldn't power on today.ÿ I
    had a hunch that it might be the front power switch, so disconnected
    the power from the motherboard and then located the green wire on the
    power supply.ÿ However, much to my surprise, there were two green
    wires.ÿ When I jumpered one to ground, nothing, but when jumpering the >>>> other, power supply fan started up.

    Before reconnecting power to the motherboard, I cut the green wire
    that did work and temporarily extended it with a jumper wire.ÿ Power
    was reconnected and the jumper wire to ground.ÿ The power supply
    started, but it was only after I then pressed the front power button
    on the desktop that it started right up.ÿ In fact, I'm sending this
    message from it now.

    I'm a little confused about the wiring and power switch type.ÿ The
    switch must have only partially failed since it still works with the
    aforementioned configuration.ÿ However, I think the option, to get
    things back to normal, is to either replace it, which I think would be >>>> next to impossible given the old age of the PC, or simply wire up a
    toggle as a substitute, but not sure of the wiring.

    Might it be as simple as snipping that additional green wire, splicing >>>> both green wires together, and have that go to ground for start up/
    turn off, or is it something more?ÿ I almost think a temporary switch
    is needed somewhere since the front power button is only depressed
    until power up and then released.

    trying to keep everything simple, but it seems a little complicated to >>>> me.ÿ Thanks in advance for any help.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you fixed the problem and
    there's no need to replace the front panel power switch.

    Sort of. I have a SPST toggle switch that connects the one green line
    to the power supply and ground. I cut that green line to the
    motherboard. If I enable the toggle switch, the power supply fan begins
    to turn at a rapid pace until I press the button on the front of the
    desktop, then boot up as normal.

    So, by activating the toggle switch I added, and then pushing the PC
    power button on the front of the desktop momentarily, the PC boots up.

    If no other solution, I guess I could use it this way either until I
    find out the correct wiring data for replacing with a single switch or
    obtaining an original replacement PC switch board. I really need to
    have this desktop functional.


    I'm unclear, however, whether the power switch is, by design, a
    momentary contact switch - only on while depressed, or a toggle switch - >>> on when depressed and remains on until pushed again when in turns off.

    Response to power-on is in bios - check coin cell battery on mobo.

    RL

    Ahhh, good point. Something I hadn't thought of because my system auto
    syncs to the correct time everyday once I connect to the Internet. In
    the BIOS however, just checked the date and time. Date is fine (today)
    but time is slow by 8 hours. Time to do a battery swap I think.


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.10
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)