• Drives me Nuts

    From Cursitor Doom@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 17:31:41
    Datasheets that don't provide pinouts. Even more annoying than Bill
    Sloman.

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  • From Edward Rawde@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 13:26:07
    "Cursitor Doom" <cd@notformail.com> wrote in message news:qe3vnkhc6llf1qv0ri4ftjamq03j0lp98s@4ax.com...
    Datasheets that don't provide pinouts. Even more annoying than Bill
    Sloman.

    You might have to guess by comparing the component with a similar component. It's a little easier if pin numbers are given.
    I'd look at what turns up in an image search.



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  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 10:38:51
    On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 17:31:41 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Datasheets that don't provide pinouts. Even more annoying than Bill
    Sloman.

    There's lots of frustration in data sheets.

    Block diagram and pinouts way down somewhere. It's not obvious what
    some parts actually do.

    Silly block diagrams, if any.

    Frequency response curves that hide bad things.

    Table of contents at the end.

    No DC data on RF parts. Adjust the gate bias trimpot until it works.

    No outline drawing.

    Crazy package names for standard packages.

    One data sheet for lots of different parts, with no way to tell which
    is which.

    Application schematics that leave things out, or are flat wrong.

    "Murder Mystery" data sheets, where you have to read literally
    hundreds of pages and look here and there for clues.

    Impossible keyword searches. There is a pin called MODE, but the word
    is used in many other places.

    Pages of disclaimers and compliance junk.

    Useless or insanely complex timing diagrams. Why can't they just say
    what the maximum SPI clock rate is?

    The min/max input voltages are VCC+.3 and VEE-.3. What happens beyond
    that?

    No washability specs, or outright lies.

    Recent issue: no transient overload specs on resistors.

    No C:V data on ceramic caps. A 10uF 10v cap might be 2uF at 10 volts.

    No negative voltage specs on aluminum caps. Some polymers are pretty
    good.

    No hints of over-voltage behavior on alum caps. Some just leak and get
    warm, some die hard with no warning.

    1000 hour lifetime spec on alum caps. That's 40 days. Really?

    Common-mode inductors with huge current ratings, but saturate with
    tiny normal-mode currents.

    Power inductor current specs that ignore skin and proximity effects.
    Envision smoke.

    Impossible mosfet current and power ratings. IR started that nonsense.

    Important gotchas buried in tiny footnotes.

    .... just for starters...











    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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  • From Cursitor Doom@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 23:38:42
    On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 10:38:51 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 17:31:41 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Datasheets that don't provide pinouts. Even more annoying than Bill
    Sloman.

    There's lots of frustration in data sheets.

    Block diagram and pinouts way down somewhere. It's not obvious what
    some parts actually do.

    Silly block diagrams, if any.

    Frequency response curves that hide bad things.

    Table of contents at the end.

    No DC data on RF parts. Adjust the gate bias trimpot until it works.

    No outline drawing.

    Crazy package names for standard packages.

    One data sheet for lots of different parts, with no way to tell which
    is which.

    Application schematics that leave things out, or are flat wrong.

    "Murder Mystery" data sheets, where you have to read literally
    hundreds of pages and look here and there for clues.

    Impossible keyword searches. There is a pin called MODE, but the word
    is used in many other places.

    Pages of disclaimers and compliance junk.

    Useless or insanely complex timing diagrams. Why can't they just say
    what the maximum SPI clock rate is?

    The min/max input voltages are VCC+.3 and VEE-.3. What happens beyond
    that?

    No washability specs, or outright lies.

    Recent issue: no transient overload specs on resistors.

    No C:V data on ceramic caps. A 10uF 10v cap might be 2uF at 10 volts.

    No negative voltage specs on aluminum caps. Some polymers are pretty
    good.

    No hints of over-voltage behavior on alum caps. Some just leak and get
    warm, some die hard with no warning.

    1000 hour lifetime spec on alum caps. That's 40 days. Really?

    Common-mode inductors with huge current ratings, but saturate with
    tiny normal-mode currents.

    Power inductor current specs that ignore skin and proximity effects.
    Envision smoke.

    Impossible mosfet current and power ratings. IR started that nonsense.

    Important gotchas buried in tiny footnotes.

    .... just for starters...

    That's one hell of a list! One very obvious thing they could do and
    for which there can be no legitimate objection would be to standardize
    the order in which a part's characteristics are listed. So you can
    quickly find what you want to know OTOH, or have to read through an
    entire datasheet just to discover that the info you need isn't within
    it OTO.

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