https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-
russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-
russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 15:22:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
$2. Is that what you pay?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and coders and
engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out to the
war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, sad stuff indeed..
On 1/27/2026 4:47 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 15:22:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
$2. Is that what you pay?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
It's a figure of speech Mr. Larkin I couldn't say what the current or >historical rates for sex work actually are. The President is probably
better equipped to answer these questions.
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which
arms manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units
and coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce
weapons that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls
out to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2
prostitutes, sad stuff indeed..
I think this represents a potentially huge paradigm shift for the
arms industry.ÿ Instead of million dollar, radiation hardened bombs,
built by a select few "qualified" contractors, "sticks and stones"
seem to be effective!
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant
adversaries!
On 1/27/2026 4:46 PM, john larkin wrote:
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
We destroyed Afghanistan's infrastructure, then spent $150 billion
trying to rebuild it. Still lost..
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 17:31:50 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 4:47 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 15:22:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>> sad stuff indeed..
$2. Is that what you pay?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
It's a figure of speech Mr. Larkin I couldn't say what the current or
historical rates for sex work actually are. The President is probably
better equipped to answer these questions.
A rather repulsive (and revealing) figure of speech.
I have never paid for sex. How would you be sure that she actually
loves you?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of the US at
least) for 70 damn years!
Maybe the US military should've hired a qualified contractor like Vo Nguyen Giap as a consultant instead of hanging a POW/MIA flag on every post office and
pretending the Rambo movies were actual history..
On 1/27/2026 5:42 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 17:31:50 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 4:47 PM, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 15:22:19 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>> sad stuff indeed..
$2. Is that what you pay?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
It's a figure of speech Mr. Larkin I couldn't say what the current or
historical rates for sex work actually are. The President is probably
better equipped to answer these questions.
A rather repulsive (and revealing) figure of speech.
I have never paid for sex. How would you be sure that she actually
loves you?
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The fundamental service johns tend to be paying for is for her to go
away afterwards, not to fall in love with them..
Anyway I can't imagine professing my love for my GF after working all
day in the weapons biz, like: "What'd you do today, honey?" "Oh you
know, worked on some software for this thing that'll probably blow some
poor bugger's limbs or head off, maybe make him a paraplegic or his wife
a widow and kids orphans. Yeah I was really laying down some solid
murderbot code at Murder Inc. today! Anyway, glad to be home, love ya
babe. What's for dinner?"
Maybe they just say "it's classified" and leave it at that. I can see why.
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 17:31:50 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 4:47 PM, john larkin wrote:
It's a figure of speech Mr. Larkin I couldn't say what the current or
historical rates for sex work actually are. The President is probably
better equipped to answer these questions.
A rather repulsive (and revealing) figure of speech.
The fundamental service johns tend to be paying for is for her to go
away afterwards, not to fall in love with them..
Anyway I can't imagine professing my love for my GF after working all
day in the weapons biz, like: "What'd you do today, honey?" "Oh you
know, worked on some software for this thing that'll probably blow some
poor bugger's limbs or head off, maybe make him a paraplegic or his wife
a widow and kids orphans. Yeah I was really laying down some solid
murderbot code at Murder Inc. today! Anyway, glad to be home, love ya
babe. What's for dinner?"
Maybe they just say "it's classified" and leave it at that. I can see why.
If this post was from anyone else, I'd assume they were just having a
bad day.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant
adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of
the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.)
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago...
We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant
adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of
the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!? (It seems to be part of their mindset.)
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago...
We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!? That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have >difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of the US
at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.)
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago...
We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
Colon Powell <Colon.Powell@tutanato.com>wrote:
Kind of weird that these billionaire tech moguls are warning the massesof how dangerous what the billionaires are funding is.
https://www.rt.com/news/631622-anthropic-ai-unimaginable-power/
The CEO of leading AI company Anthropic, Dario Amodei, has issued an
ominous public warning that humanity is on the cusp of being handed
?almost unimaginable power,? for which it is dangerously unprepared.
In a nearly 20,000-word essay titled ?The Adolescence of Technology,?
Amodei sketches a near-future where AI systems vastly more capable than
any Nobel laureate or statesman could be at everyone?s disposal within
the next few years. A critical and accelerating factor, Amodei reveals,
is that AI development is now creating a self-reinforcing feedback loop.
?Because AI is now writing much of the code at Anthropic, it is already >substantially accelerating our progress in building the next generation
of AI systems,? he writes, warning that the company is close to ?a point >where the current generation of AI autonomously builds the next.?
The deepfake threat is reshaping global politicsREAD MORE: The deepfake >threat is reshaping global politics
He argues that without decisive and careful action, this technology
could lead to catastrophic risks ranging from mass job displacement to
human extinction. Other existential dangers include the potential for ?a >global totalitarian dictatorship? enabled by AI-powered surveillance, >propaganda and autonomous weapons.
Amodei also details ?autonomy risks,? where AI systems could ?go rogue
and overpower humanity? ? noting that this danger would not even require
a sci-fi army of physical robots. The essay chillingly observes that
?plenty of human action is already performed on behalf of people whom
the actor has not physically met.?
Among the most urgent threats, Amodei highlights the potential for AI to >drastically lower the barrier to creating biological and other weapons
of mass destruction.
?Catastrophic outcomes? could accompany rise of advanced AI ? Google >DeepMind CEOREAD MORE: ?Catastrophic outcomes? could accompany rise of >advanced AI ? Google DeepMind CEO
?A disturbed loner can perpetrate a school shooting, but probably can?t >build a nuclear weapon or release a plague,? he writes. A powerful AI, >however, would make ?everyone a PhD virologist who can be walked through
the process of designing, synthesizing, and releasing a biological
weapon step-by-step.?
In a worst-case scenario, he warns a powerful AI could theoretically
guide the creation of a synthetic pathogen capable of ?destroying all
life on Earth.?
As one of the key industry leaders, whose company is a chief rival to >OpenAI, Amodei calls for ?surgical? regulation, starting with
transparency laws, to build necessary guardrails.
READ MORE: ?Superintelligent? AI could end humanity ? tech icons
?Humanity needs to wake up,? Amodei concludes, framing the coming years
as a critical test of civilization?s maturity. With the technology
itself now fueling its own breakneck evolution, he urges a collective >response to steer the ?glittering prize? of AI away from potential ruin.
You can share this story on social media:
I have never paid for sex.
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant
adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of
the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.) >>>
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago...
We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would
have difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/defense.
If you can coerce (because they have no other devices in their arsenal)
your enemy to expending lots of treasure, you can defeat them "on a
budget".
Ukraine has got to be a HUGE embarassment for Russia.ÿ Even hiring mercenaries and "convicts" has led to a very limited "success".
Hardly what one would expect of a "world power".
Putin is lucky that someone hasn't taken the opportunity to nibble
at other borders (and that Trump hasn't been smart enough to capitalize
on Putin's weaknesses to "defeat Russia" -- "when no other american
president could"!)
[Trump always picks the wrong way to be remembered.ÿ As he has, historically, with his other ventures (maybe he's just not very smart?)]
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-
russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-
russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
I have never paid for sex.
You always pay for sex; if not at the time, then for the rest of your
married life.
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-
russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which
Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
I have never paid for sex.
You always pay for sex; if not at the time, then for the rest of your
married life.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 11:57:29 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
I have never paid for sex.
You always pay for sex; if not at the time, then for the rest of your
married life.
Yuk. I like and love my wife. We have had times when one or the other
had no income, and we helped one another.
Someone said "I don't see what a big deal sex is about. It only takes
a minute."
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid >>>> and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids >>> and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >>> invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's >>> way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which
Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional
arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap
and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist..
On 1/28/2026 11:19 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 11:57:29 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
I have never paid for sex.
You always pay for sex; if not at the time, then for the rest of your
married life.
Yuk. I like and love my wife. We have had times when one or the other
had no income, and we helped one another.
Someone said "I don't see what a big deal sex is about. It only takes
a minute."
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
Yes some women actually enjoy it and IME one of the best ways to make a >woman like that depart is making her regularly feel like a prostitute.
Or regularly feel like your mother.
And especially not a prostitute who has to be your mother when she's not >being a prostitute.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 15:18:31 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/28/2026 11:19 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 11:57:29 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
I have never paid for sex.
You always pay for sex; if not at the time, then for the rest of your
married life.
Yuk. I like and love my wife. We have had times when one or the other
had no income, and we helped one another.
Someone said "I don't see what a big deal sex is about. It only takes
a minute."
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
Yes some women actually enjoy it and IME one of the best ways to make a
woman like that depart is making her regularly feel like a prostitute.
Or regularly feel like your mother.
And especially not a prostitute who has to be your mother when she's not
being a prostitute.
Gosh what a sicko you are. You must be very unhappy.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
On 1/27/26 21:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-
russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which
arms manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units
and coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce
weapons that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls
out to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2
prostitutes, sad stuff indeed..
or they are helping Ukraine defend their homeland against an invade,
while making a profit, however you want to look at it ..
On 1/27/26 21:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-
russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which
arms manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units
and coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce
weapons that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls
out to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2
prostitutes, sad stuff indeed..
or they are helping Ukraine defend their homeland against an invade,
while making a profit, however you want to look at it ..
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which
Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 14:21:23 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid >>>>> and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another. >>>>
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out. >>>>
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids >>>> and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while >>>> this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >>>> invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that, >>>> and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's >>>> way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >>>> progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which
Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional
arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap
and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist..
Wrong question. The Russians get a vote too.
If we had not spent that money, Europe would have suffered Ukraine's
fate long before now.
On 29/01/2026 8:02 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 14:21:23 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in
which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units >>>>>>>> and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce >>>>>>>> weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their >>>>>>>> souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2
prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power >>>>>> grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another. >>>>>
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other
out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power
grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft >>>>> were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while >>>>> this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still
involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just
that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching >>>>> it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >>>>> progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which >>>> Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional
arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap
and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist..
Wrong question.ÿ The Russians get a vote too.
If we had not spent that money, Europe would have suffered Ukraine's
fate long before now.
Probably not. The American spending on military equipment reflects the
greed of American arms manufacturers, and their political influence.
Read Mary Kaldor's "The Baroque Arsenal" from 1981.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1981-09-01/ baroque-arsenal
It is notable that the Abrams tank uses a German gun, and British
Chobham reactive armour. Europe may not spend as much on arms as the US,
but what they do spend they spend effectively.
Russia's economy is about the same size as Italy's - they can barely
sustain their assault on the Ukraine. They wouldn't last long against Germany and the European allies who would back them up.
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-
russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
Bill Sloman, Sydney--
On 1/27/2026 6:03 PM, john larkin wrote:
The fundamental service johns tend to be paying for is for her to goIf this post was from anyone else, I'd assume they were just having a
away afterwards, not to fall in love with them..
Anyway I can't imagine professing my love for my GF after working all
day in the weapons biz, like: "What'd you do today, honey?" "Oh you
know, worked on some software for this thing that'll probably blow some
poor bugger's limbs or head off, maybe make him a paraplegic or his wife >>> a widow and kids orphans. Yeah I was really laying down some solid
murderbot code at Murder Inc. today! Anyway, glad to be home, love ya
babe. What's for dinner?"
Maybe they just say "it's classified" and leave it at that. I can see why. >>
bad day.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
I'm just saying it's disappointing when the party of "small government"
gets all excited over militaria. The "problems" involved aren't
particularly interesting and the "solutions" are mostly buggy junk, anyway.
"Our A.I.-powered platform processes battlefield data in real time,
adapting to changing conditions without human intervention,? the
pamphlet says. ?Neutralize more targets at a fraction of legacy system
costs. Deploy at scale to achieve overwhelming force multiplication
against sophisticated threats.? The pamphlet claimed a ?future monthly >production? of more than 6,000 units.
As usual the NYT pretty much just repeats their military-industrial
master's breathless optimism about the new junk verbatim. I could just
read the sales brochure
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of the US
at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.) >>>
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago...
We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have
difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/defense.
If you can coerce (because they have no other devices in their arsenal)
your enemy to expending lots of treasure, you can defeat them "on a budget".
Ukraine has got to be a HUGE embarassment for Russia. Even hiring >mercenaries and "convicts" has led to a very limited "success".
Hardly what one would expect of a "world power".
Putin is lucky that someone hasn't taken the opportunity to nibble
at other borders (and that Trump hasn't been smart enough to capitalize
on Putin's weaknesses to "defeat Russia" -- "when no other american
president could"!)
[Trump always picks the wrong way to be remembered. As he has, historically, >with his other ventures (maybe he's just not very smart?)]
In article <10ldbf7$jvt3$1@dont-email.me>,
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids >>and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >>invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's >>way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >>progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
Russia proceeded very carefully, because it considers the inhabitants
of Ukraine compatriots, to be liberated, compare Gaza.
This is changed since the assassination attempt
on Putins life by CIA operatives, according to Scott Ritter (former
CIA, weapons inspector, etc.) Now Kyev is suffering.
US and Russia is talking about the 28 points plan.
Europe is offside.
To the USAmericans, they were never good except for canon fodder.
Ukraine is still "resisting" because of injections of billions of
weapons and canon fodder from France, UK and Germans.
The Ukranians have no personel left with the expertise of handling
modern weapons. It is all Berlin 1945.
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
Approximately 2% of all Russian men aged 20-50 may have been killed or >seriously wounded by Ukrainians, many with smart drones.
The r/u casuality ratio is over 2:1 and likely increasing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_
Why dio so many people sympathize with genocidal thugs?
In article <10ldbf7$jvt3$1@dont-email.me>,
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
Russia proceeded very carefully, because it considers the inhabitants
of Ukraine compatriots, to be liberated, compare Gaza.
This is changed since the assassination attempt
on Putins life by CIA operatives, according to Scott Ritter (former
CIA, weapons inspector, etc.) Now Kyev is suffering.
US and Russia are talking about the 28 points plan. Europe is offside.
To the US Americans, they were never good except for canon fodder.
Ukraine is still "resisting" because of injections of billions of
weapons and canon fodder from France, UK and Germans.
The Ukranians have no personel left with the expertise of handling
modern weapons. It is all Berlin 1945.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 12:18:51 +0100, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
In article <10ldbf7$jvt3$1@dont-email.me>,
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid >>>> and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids >>> and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >>> invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's >>> way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
Russia proceeded very carefully, because it considers the inhabitants
of Ukraine compatriots, to be liberated, compare Gaza.
Liberated by firing missiles at apartment buildings?
Putin is a madman with dreams of rebuilding imperial Russia, or
actually imperial Moscow.
It's not working very well.
This is changed since the assassination attempt
on Putins life by CIA operatives, according to Scott Ritter (former
CIA, weapons inspector, etc.) Now Kyev is suffering.
US and Russia is talking about the 28 points plan.
Europe is offside.
To the USAmericans, they were never good except for canon fodder.
Ukraine is still "resisting" because of injections of billions of
weapons and canon fodder from France, UK and Germans.
The Ukranians have no personel left with the expertise of handling
modern weapons. It is all Berlin 1945.
Approximately 2% of all Russian men aged 20-50 may have been killed or seriously wounded by Ukrainians, many with smart drones.
The r/u casuality ratio is over 2:1 and likely increasing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_
Why do so many people sympathize with genocidal thugs?
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
Approximately 2% of all Russian men aged 20-50 may have been killed or >>seriously wounded by Ukrainians, many with smart drones.
The r/u casuality ratio is over 2:1 and likely increasing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_
Why dio so many people sympathize with genocidal thugs?
tramp is, among many more bad and evil things, a genocidel thug who killed thousands in Gaza by supplying arms to the religious fanatic YouWitz sect
Killed people in Venezuela
killed people in boats
Killed US people in Minnesota
Probably had Epstein killed so he would not talk about his sex
He wants to do the same in Iran now, wants to kill Cubans, invade Cuba, steals oil just like double you you bushman did in Iraq
What a bunch of crap 'merrica has become
World may unload its radioactive waste on those divided states any time now, the doomsday clock is making noises.
tramp ape has no respect for anything but maybe a gun on - or a bullet through the empty bubble mounted above his shoulders.
ego maniac nutcase he is.
And the more stupid the 'leader' the more the simple minded follow him: Youws and 'Adam did it with Eve' reciters.
On 30/01/2026 12:00 am, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 12:18:51 +0100, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
In article <10ldbf7$jvt3$1@dont-email.me>,
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid >>>>> and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another. >>>>
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out. >>>>
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids >>>> and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while >>>> this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >>>> invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that, >>>> and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's >>>> way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >>>> progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
Russia proceeded very carefully, because it considers the inhabitants
of Ukraine compatriots, to be liberated, compare Gaza.
Liberated by firing missiles at apartment buildings?
Putin is a madman with dreams of rebuilding imperial Russia, or
actually imperial Moscow.
It's not working very well.
This is changed since the assassination attempt
on Putins life by CIA operatives, according to Scott Ritter (former
CIA, weapons inspector, etc.) Now Kyev is suffering.
US and Russia is talking about the 28 points plan.
Europe is offside.
To the USAmericans, they were never good except for canon fodder.
Ukraine is still "resisting" because of injections of billions of
weapons and canon fodder from France, UK and Germans.
The Ukranians have no personel left with the expertise of handling
modern weapons. It is all Berlin 1945.
Approximately 2% of all Russian men aged 20-50 may have been killed or
seriously wounded by Ukrainians, many with smart drones.
The r/u casuality ratio is over 2:1 and likely increasing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_
Why do so many people sympathize with genocidal thugs?
You've told us the Donald Trump has "common sense", but he strikes me as
a genocidal thug.
On 29/01/2026 10:18 pm, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
In article <10ldbf7$jvt3$1@dont-email.me>,
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid >>>> and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids >>> and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >>> invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's >>> way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
Russia proceeded very carefully, because it considers the inhabitants
of Ukraine compatriots, to be liberated, compare Gaza.
That's not the picture painted by the local media.
This is changed since the assassination attempt
on Putins life by CIA operatives, according to Scott Ritter (former
CIA, weapons inspector, etc.) Now Kyev is suffering.
If the Russian tank columns had made it to Kyiv, as they tried to do in >February 2022, they presumably wouldn't have been any more careful than
they were in Bucha.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre
Putin does treat his own population rather badly, so his idea of
"careful" might strike others as pretty brutal.
US and Russia are talking about the 28 points plan. Europe is offside.
Europe isn't as willing to chuck the Ukraine down the toilet as are
Putin and Trump. Those two can massage their ego's at their talks, but
they seem unlikely to come up with a plan that they can sell to anybody else
On 29/01/2026 8:02 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 14:21:23 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in
which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units >>>>>>>> and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce >>>>>>>> weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their >>>>>>>> souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2
prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power >>>>>> grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another. >>>>>
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other
out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power
grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft >>>>> were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while >>>>> this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still
involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just
that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching >>>>> it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >>>>> progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which >>>> Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional
arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap
and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist..
Wrong question.ÿ The Russians get a vote too.
If we had not spent that money, Europe would have suffered Ukraine's
fate long before now.
Probably not. The American spending on military equipment reflects the
greed of American arms manufacturers, and their political influence.
In article <69795271$0$21961$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 6:03 PM, john larkin wrote:
The fundamental service johns tend to be paying for is for her to goIf this post was from anyone else, I'd assume they were just having a
away afterwards, not to fall in love with them..
Anyway I can't imagine professing my love for my GF after working all
day in the weapons biz, like: "What'd you do today, honey?" "Oh you
know, worked on some software for this thing that'll probably blow some >>>> poor bugger's limbs or head off, maybe make him a paraplegic or his wife >>>> a widow and kids orphans. Yeah I was really laying down some solid
murderbot code at Murder Inc. today! Anyway, glad to be home, love ya
babe. What's for dinner?"
Maybe they just say "it's classified" and leave it at that. I can see why. >>>
bad day.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
I'm just saying it's disappointing when the party of "small government" >>gets all excited over militaria. The "problems" involved aren't >>particularly interesting and the "solutions" are mostly buggy junk, anyway. >>
"Our A.I.-powered platform processes battlefield data in real time, >>adapting to changing conditions without human intervention,?? the
pamphlet says. ?Neutralize more targets at a fraction of legacy system >>costs. Deploy at scale to achieve overwhelming force multiplication
against sophisticated threats.?? The pamphlet claimed a ?future monthly >>production?? of more than 6,000 units.
As usual the NYT pretty much just repeats their military-industrial >>master's breathless optimism about the new junk verbatim. I could just
read the sales brochure
The military industry in China makes weapons.
The military industry in USA makes money.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:09:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
Killed people in Venezuela
killed people in boats
Killed US people in Minnesota
Probably had Epstein killed so he would not talk about his sex
He wants to do the same in Iran now, wants to kill Cubans, invade Cuba, steals oil just like double you you bushman did in Iraq
What a bunch of crap 'merrica has become
World may unload its radioactive waste on those divided states any time now, the doomsday clock is making noises.
tramp ape has no respect for anything but maybe a gun on - or a bullet through the empty bubble mounted above his shoulders.
ego maniac nutcase he is.
And the more stupid the 'leader' the more the simple minded follow him: Youws and 'Adam did it with Eve' reciters.
The best thing Cuba could do for its people is start a war with the US
and lose. Of course, the communist party is dumb, but not that dumb.
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 03:04:52 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
The euros need russian natural gas for when their renewables go
offline in cold weather.
On 1/28/2026 9:41 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 29/01/2026 8:02 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 14:21:23 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote: >>>>>>>
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in >>>>>>>>> which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units >>>>>>>>> and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce >>>>>>>>> weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain." >>>>>>>>>
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their >>>>>>>>> souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2
prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power >>>>>>> grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another. >>>>>>
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other >>>>>> out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power >>>>>> grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft >>>>>> were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while >>>>>> this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still
involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just >>>>>> that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching >>>>>> it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >>>>>> progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which >>>>> Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional >>>> arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap >>>> and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist..
Wrong question.? The Russians get a vote too.
If we had not spent that money, Europe would have suffered Ukraine's
fate long before now.
Probably not. The American spending on military equipment reflects the
greed of American arms manufacturers, and their political influence.
Read Mary Kaldor's "The Baroque Arsenal" from 1981.
<https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1981-09-01/baroque-arsenal>
It is notable that the Abrams tank uses a German gun, and British
Chobham reactive armour. Europe may not spend as much on arms as the US,
but what they do spend they spend effectively.
Russia's economy is about the same size as Italy's - they can barely
sustain their assault on the Ukraine. They wouldn't last long against
Germany and the European allies who would back them up.
I think it was clear to some Middle Eastern scholars at least that the >ability of the Soviet Union to go on substantive offensives into a late
20th century Germany was always kind of suspect, they were pretty
terrible even at materially supporting their client states in the Middle >East in the 70s/80s, Israel pummeled them with impunity and the Soviets >couldn't really do much about it. Beirut wasn't much further from the
old Soviet border than Bonn..
Am 29.01.26 um 17:53 schrieb john larkin:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:09:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
Killed people in Venezuela
killed people in boats
Killed US people in Minnesota
Probably had Epstein killed so he would not talk about his sex
He wants to do the same in Iran now, wants to kill Cubans, invade Cuba, steals oil just like double you you bushman did in Iraq
What a bunch of crap 'merrica has become
World may unload its radioactive waste on those divided states any time now, the doomsday clock is making noises.
tramp ape has no respect for anything but maybe a gun on - or a bullet through the empty bubble mounted above his shoulders.
ego maniac nutcase he is.
And the more stupid the 'leader' the more the simple minded follow him: Youws and 'Adam did it with Eve' reciters.
The best thing Cuba could do for its people is start a war with the US
and lose. Of course, the communist party is dumb, but not that dumb.
The US was even more dumb for that in 1962. Forcing a submarine
to surface that has nuclear weapons is not exactly evidence of
intelligence. And there were some nuclear rockets on Cuba already.
McNamara turned quite pale later when he learned it.
If that has slipped your mind: Google is your friend.
I would not bet my a* that the mullahs don't have an interim solution.
You did teach them in after all, several times.
Religious people are usually from the shallow end of the gene pool,
but they seem to have a natural affection towards killing or being
killed, cashing in their reward in the next life.
In article <10ldbf7$jvt3$1@dont-email.me>,
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons >>>>> that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out >>>>> to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm
of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids >>and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >>invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's >>way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >>progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
Russia proceeded very carefully, because it considers the inhabitants
of Ukraine compatriots, to be liberated, compare Gaza.
Am 29.01.26 um 17:53 schrieb john larkin:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:09:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
Killed people in Venezuela
killed people in boats
Killed US people in Minnesota
Probably had Epstein killed so he would not talk about his sex
He wants to do the same in Iran now, wants to kill Cubans, invade Cuba, steals oil just like double you you bushman did in Iraq
What a bunch of crap 'merrica has become
World may unload its radioactive waste on those divided states any time now, the doomsday clock is making noises.
tramp ape has no respect for anything but maybe a gun on - or a bullet through the empty bubble mounted above his shoulders.
ego maniac nutcase he is.
And the more stupid the 'leader' the more the simple minded follow him: Youws and 'Adam did it with Eve' reciters.
The best thing Cuba could do for its people is start a war with the US
and lose. Of course, the communist party is dumb, but not that dumb.
The US was even more dumb for that in 1962. Forcing a submarine
to surface that has nuclear weapons is not exactly evidence of
intelligence. And there were some nuclear rockets on Cuba already.
McNamara turned quite pale later when he learned it.
If that has slipped your mind: Google is your friend.
I would not bet my a* that the mullahs don't have an interim solution.
You did teach them in after all, several times.
Religious people are usually from the shallow end of the gene pool,
but they seem to have a natural affection towards killing or being
killed, cashing in their reward in the next life.
Gerhard
Am 29.01.26 um 17:59 schrieb john larkin:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 03:04:52 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
The euros need russian natural gas for when their renewables go
offline in cold weather.
We had > 56% of our electricity consumption from renewables last year,
and they did not even fill the gas caverns to full capacity b4 winter.
Beautiful, clean coal is on a record low now. Not a single coal mine
left operating here in the state of Saarland, where half the population
used to live from iron & steel.
Did you note that Canada now has lots of LNG to sell, just to distribute >their risks? They don't consider you a good customer any more.
Gerhard
On 1/29/26 03:41, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 29/01/2026 8:02 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 14:21:23 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net>
wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in >>>>>>>>> which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline
units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to
produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain." >>>>>>>>>
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their >>>>>>>>> souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2
prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power >>>>>>> grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one
another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other >>>>>> out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power >>>>>> grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft >>>>>> were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and
while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still
involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just >>>>>> that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years
inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made >>>>>> some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which >>>>> Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional >>>> arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap >>>> and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist..
Wrong question.ÿ The Russians get a vote too.
If we had not spent that money, Europe would have suffered Ukraine's
fate long before now.
Probably not. The American spending on military equipment reflects the
greed of American arms manufacturers, and their political influence.
if the American arms manufacturers had the power you think they have
they would used that power to stop Trump from pissing off every allied
at a time where they are all ready to spend more than ever on
rearmament.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 20:25:25 +0100, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:
Am 29.01.26 um 17:53 schrieb john larkin:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:09:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
Killed people in Venezuela
killed people in boats
Killed US people in Minnesota
Probably had Epstein killed so he would not talk about his sex
He wants to do the same in Iran now, wants to kill Cubans, invade Cuba, steals oil just like double you you bushman did in Iraq
What a bunch of crap 'merrica has become
World may unload its radioactive waste on those divided states any time now, the doomsday clock is making noises.
tramp ape has no respect for anything but maybe a gun on - or a bullet through the empty bubble mounted above his shoulders.
ego maniac nutcase he is.
And the more stupid the 'leader' the more the simple minded follow him: Youws and 'Adam did it with Eve' reciters.
The best thing Cuba could do for its people is start a war with the US
and lose. Of course, the communist party is dumb, but not that dumb.
The US was even more dumb for that in 1962. Forcing a submarine
to surface that has nuclear weapons is not exactly evidence of
intelligence. And there were some nuclear rockets on Cuba already.
McNamara turned quite pale later when he learned it.
If that has slipped your mind: Google is your friend.
I would not bet my a* that the mullahs don't have an interim solution.
You did teach them in after all, several times.
Religious people are usually from the shallow end of the gene pool,
but they seem to have a natural affection towards killing or being
killed, cashing in their reward in the next life.
Gerhard
The biggest, megadeath killers in the last century were contemptuous
of religion or outright atheists. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, the Kims.
The religious people that I know are kind and friendly.
The shiites are not so nice, I admit.
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 03:08:29 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 30/01/2026 12:00 am, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 12:18:51 +0100, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
In article <10ldbf7$jvt3$1@dont-email.me>,
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote: >>>>>>
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid >>>>>> and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another. >>>>>
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out. >>>>>
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids >>>>> and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft >>>>> were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while >>>>> this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >>>>> invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that, >>>>> and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's >>>>> way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >>>>> progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
Russia proceeded very carefully, because it considers the inhabitants
of Ukraine compatriots, to be liberated, compare Gaza.
Liberated by firing missiles at apartment buildings?
Putin is a madman with dreams of rebuilding imperial Russia, or
actually imperial Moscow.
It's not working very well.
This is changed since the assassination attempt
on Putins life by CIA operatives, according to Scott Ritter (former
CIA, weapons inspector, etc.) Now Kyev is suffering.
US and Russia is talking about the 28 points plan.
Europe is offside.
To the USAmericans, they were never good except for canon fodder.
Ukraine is still "resisting" because of injections of billions of
weapons and canon fodder from France, UK and Germans.
The Ukranians have no personel left with the expertise of handling
modern weapons. It is all Berlin 1945.
Approximately 2% of all Russian men aged 20-50 may have been killed or
seriously wounded by Ukrainians, many with smart drones.
The r/u casuality ratio is over 2:1 and likely increasing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_
Why do so many people sympathize with genocidal thugs?
You've told us the Donald Trump has "common sense", but he strikes me as
a genocidal thug.
Maybe he will stop the Iranians from killing tens of thousands of
Iranians. He did trash their nuke program. Sounds like a linked
strategy to me.
And maybe - more difficult - get Hamas out of Gaza. That's also
linked.
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 03:04:52 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 29/01/2026 10:18 pm, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
In article <10ldbf7$jvt3$1@dont-email.me>,
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in which arms >>>>>>> manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline units and >>>>>>> coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain."
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 prostitutes, >>>>>>> sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power grid >>>>> and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one another. >>>>
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other out. >>>>
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power grids >>>> and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft
were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and while >>>> this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still involved big >>>> invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just that, >>>> and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years inching it's >>>> way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made some >>>> progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
Russia proceeded very carefully, because it considers the inhabitants
of Ukraine compatriots, to be liberated, compare Gaza.
That's not the picture painted by the local media.
This is changed since the assassination attempt
on Putins life by CIA operatives, according to Scott Ritter (former
CIA, weapons inspector, etc.) Now Kyev is suffering.
If the Russian tank columns had made it to Kyiv, as they tried to do in
February 2022, they presumably wouldn't have been any more careful than
they were in Bucha.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre
Putin does treat his own population rather badly, so his idea of
"careful" might strike others as pretty brutal.
US and Russia are talking about the 28 points plan. Europe is offside.
Europe isn't as willing to chuck the Ukraine down the toilet as are
Putin and Trump. Those two can massage their ego's at their talks, but
they seem unlikely to come up with a plan that they can sell to anybody else
The euros need russian natural gas for when their renewables go
offline in cold weather.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 12:24:59 +0100, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
In article <69795271$0$21961$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 6:03 PM, john larkin wrote:
The fundamental service johns tend to be paying for is for her to go >>>>> away afterwards, not to fall in love with them..
Anyway I can't imagine professing my love for my GF after working all >>>>> day in the weapons biz, like: "What'd you do today, honey?" "Oh you
know, worked on some software for this thing that'll probably blow some >>>>> poor bugger's limbs or head off, maybe make him a paraplegic or his wife >>>>> a widow and kids orphans. Yeah I was really laying down some solid
murderbot code at Murder Inc. today! Anyway, glad to be home, love ya >>>>> babe. What's for dinner?"
Maybe they just say "it's classified" and leave it at that. I can see why.
If this post was from anyone else, I'd assume they were just having a
bad day.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
I'm just saying it's disappointing when the party of "small government"
gets all excited over militaria. The "problems" involved aren't
particularly interesting and the "solutions" are mostly buggy junk, anyway. >>>
"Our A.I.-powered platform processes battlefield data in real time,
adapting to changing conditions without human intervention,ƒ?? the
pamphlet says. ƒ??Neutralize more targets at a fraction of legacy system >>> costs. Deploy at scale to achieve overwhelming force multiplication
against sophisticated threats.ƒ?? The pamphlet claimed a ƒ??future monthly >>> productionƒ?? of more than 6,000 units.
As usual the NYT pretty much just repeats their military-industrial
master's breathless optimism about the new junk verbatim. I could just
read the sales brochure
The military industry in China makes weapons.
The military industry in USA makes money.
The CCP biggies make the money.
There was just a giant purge about
that. Probably has to do with tofu-dreg missiles or something.
The russians have the same issue: all the good parts have been stolen.
When I was working in the USSR, all sorts of stuff was stolen from our
work site. "Why not, it doesn't belong to anybody."
The ai bubble in USA is about to burst,
because China use ai
on an open source base, and use it to a profitable purpose, robotization.
In article <10lbvso$440f$1@dont-email.me>,
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of the US
at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.) >>>>
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago... >>>> We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have >>> difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/defense. >>
If you can coerce (because they have no other devices in their arsenal)
your enemy to expending lots of treasure, you can defeat them "on a budget". >>
Ukraine has got to be a HUGE embarassment for Russia. Even hiring
mercenaries and "convicts" has led to a very limited "success".
Hardly what one would expect of a "world power".
Putin is lucky that someone hasn't taken the opportunity to nibble
at other borders (and that Trump hasn't been smart enough to capitalize
on Putin's weaknesses to "defeat Russia" -- "when no other american
president could"!)
The CIA wages all out war on all fronts, are you kidding?
Tchechanian rebels were on one time disrupting Russia.
Now they are fighting in Ukraine alongside Russia.
[Trump always picks the wrong way to be remembered. As he has, historically,
with his other ventures (maybe he's just not very smart?)]
On 30/01/2026 5:03 am, Lasse Langwadt wrote:
On 1/29/26 03:41, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 29/01/2026 8:02 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 14:21:23 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:Wrong question.ÿ The Russians get a vote too.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in >>>>>>>>> which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline >>>>>>>>> units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to
produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain." >>>>>>>>>
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their >>>>>>>>> souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 >>>>>>>>> prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power >>>>>>> grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one
another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other >>>>>> out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power >>>>>> grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft >>>>>> were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and >>>>>> while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still
involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just >>>>>> that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years
inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made >>>>>> some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which >>>>> Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional >>>> arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap >>>> and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist.. >>>
If we had not spent that money, Europe would have suffered Ukraine's
fate long before now.
Probably not. The American spending on military equipment reflects the
greed of American arms manufacturers, and their political influence.
if the American arms manufacturers had the power you think they have
they would used that power to stop Trump from pissing off every allied
at a time where they are all ready to spend more than ever on
rearmament.
This assumes that Trump can be controlled. He was - to some extent -
during his first term, but his supporters took the precaution of getting
rid of everybody who might block his silly ideas when he got in for his second term.
As far as I can see he is clinically insane, and surrounded by
sychophants who don't realise how far gone he is.
And the people who buy weapons do want gear that is more cost-effective
than the stuff that America sells. Iranian drones are cheap and
effective , if not all that sophisticated.
Suppose Europe bought up all the Iranian drones, forcing Russia out of
the market - and then gave them to Ukraine.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 30/01/2026 5:03 am, Lasse Langwadt wrote:
On 1/29/26 03:41, Bill Sloman wrote:> rearmament.
On 29/01/2026 8:02 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 14:21:23 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:Wrong question.?ÿ The Russians get a vote too.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in >>>>>>>>>>> which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline >>>>>>>>>>> units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to >>>>>>>>>>> produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain." >>>>>>>>>>>
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their >>>>>>>>>>> souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 >>>>>>>>>>> prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>>>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power >>>>>>>>> grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one
another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other >>>>>>>> out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power >>>>>>>> grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft >>>>>>>> were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and >>>>>>>> while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still
involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just >>>>>>>> that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years
inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made >>>>>>>> some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which >>>>>>> Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional >>>>>> arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap >>>>>> and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist.. >>>>>
If we had not spent that money, Europe would have suffered Ukraine's >>>>> fate long before now.
Probably not. The American spending on military equipment reflects the >>>> greed of American arms manufacturers, and their political influence.
if the American arms manufacturers had the power you think they have
they would used that power to stop Trump from pissing off every allied
at a time where they are all ready to spend more than ever on
This assumes that Trump can be controlled. He was - to some extent -
during his first term, but his supporters took the precaution of getting
rid of everybody who might block his silly ideas when he got in for his
second term.
As far as I can see he is clinically insane, and surrounded by
sychophants who don't realise how far gone he is.
And the people who buy weapons do want gear that is more cost-effective
than the stuff that America sells. Iranian drones are cheap and
effective , if not all that sophisticated.
Suppose Europe bought up all the Iranian drones, forcing Russia out of
the market - and then gave them to Ukraine.
On 1/30/2026 3:15 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Suppose Europe bought up all the Iranian drones, forcing Russia out of
the market - and then gave them to Ukraine.
Wouldn't that just encourage the manufacturer to scale up production
(and, possibly, reap further economies of scale)?
However, matching their purchases can send a message to Russia that
they are likely to encounter more losses than they're "economics guy"
had anticipated...
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant >>>adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of
the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.) >>
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago...
We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/defense.
On 1/30/2026 3:15 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Suppose Europe bought up all the Iranian drones, forcing Russia out of
the market - and then gave them to Ukraine.
Wouldn't that just encourage the manufacturer to scale up production
(and, possibly, reap further economies of scale)?
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant
adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of
the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.)
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago...
We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
On 30/01/2026 5:03 am, Lasse Langwadt wrote:
On 1/29/26 03:41, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 29/01/2026 8:02 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 14:21:23 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:Wrong question.ÿ The Russians get a vote too.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in >>>>>>>>> which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline >>>>>>>>> units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to
produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain." >>>>>>>>>
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their >>>>>>>>> souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 >>>>>>>>> prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power >>>>>>> grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one
another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other >>>>>> out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power >>>>>> grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft >>>>>> were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and >>>>>> while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still
involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just >>>>>> that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years
inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made >>>>>> some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which >>>>> Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional >>>> arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap >>>> and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist.. >>>
If we had not spent that money, Europe would have suffered Ukraine's
fate long before now.
Probably not. The American spending on military equipment reflects the
greed of American arms manufacturers, and their political influence.
if the American arms manufacturers had the power you think they have
they would used that power to stop Trump from pissing off every allied
at a time where they are all ready to spend more than ever on
rearmament.
This assumes that Trump can be controlled. He was - to some extent -
during his first term, but his supporters took the precaution of getting
rid of everybody who might block his silly ideas when he got in for his second term.
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/30/2026 3:15 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Suppose Europe bought up all the Iranian drones, forcing Russia out of
the market - and then gave them to Ukraine.
Wouldn't that just encourage the manufacturer to scale up production
(and, possibly, reap further economies of scale)?
That woulld take time - and their previous customer might not be in a position to afford them (or use them) by then.
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significantadversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of >>>>> the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!?ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.) >>>>
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago... >>>> We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!?ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have >>> difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/defense.
If you could attack tha biggest tank in the Russian arsenal with tiny
drones that hit it and exploded every few minutes, how long would it be before the crew either surrendered, tried to escape and were hit or
simply went mad through lack of sleep?
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
On 30/01/2026 5:03 am, Lasse Langwadt wrote:
On 1/29/26 03:41, Bill Sloman wrote:> rearmament.
On 29/01/2026 8:02 am, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2026 14:21:23 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>
On 1/28/2026 11:13 AM, john larkin wrote:Wrong question.?ÿ The Russians get a vote too.
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:54:08 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 28/01/2026 8:46 am, john larkin wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2026 12:27:08 -0800, wmartin <wwm@wwmartin.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
On 1/27/26 12:22, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 1:43 PM, john larkin wrote:You think there is something new here?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war- >>>>>>>>>>>> russia.html
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
"Ukraine has become a fast-feedback, live-fire test range in >>>>>>>>>>> which arms
manufacturers, governments, venture capitalists, frontline >>>>>>>>>>> units and
coders and engineers from around the West collaborate to >>>>>>>>>>> produce weapons
that automate parts of the conventional military kill chain." >>>>>>>>>>>
Coders and engineers falling all over themselves to sell their >>>>>>>>>>> souls out
to the war machine and the State like the filthiest of $2 >>>>>>>>>>> prostitutes,
sad stuff indeed..
What's new is that our robots are killing their robots.
A $200M fighter jet with a pilot inside can be replaced with a swarm >>>>>>>>> of cheap expendable things.
The first country that shuts down its enemies pipelines and power >>>>>>>>> grid
and railroads wins.
Russia and the Ukraine do seem to be trying to do that to one
another.
Neither seems to be doing it effectively enough to knock the other >>>>>>>> out.
People do seem to be pretty good at repairing pipe-lines and power >>>>>>>> grids
and the like.
The end-stage of WW2 in Europe was about a year when allied aircraft >>>>>>>> were knocking out trains all over the German railway system, and >>>>>>>> while
this didn't help the German war effort, the end stage still
involved big
invading armies basically occupying the whole country.
Russia's formal invasion of the Ukraine was an attempt to do just >>>>>>>> that,
and it utterly failed. Russia has spent the last four years
inching it's
way into the Ukraine from the borders with Russia,and it has made >>>>>>>> some
progress, but it has been very slow and very expensive.
The damage to Russia has been immense. The best talent has left (which >>>>>>> Putin doesn't mind) and the birth rate is about 1.4.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
The evidence is overwhelming the Soviets posed negligible conventional >>>>>> arms threat to western Europe, either.
Good thing we spent $500 billion over 50 years defending the Fulda Gap >>>>>> and on arms development to keep pace with a threat that didn't exist.. >>>>>
If we had not spent that money, Europe would have suffered Ukraine's >>>>> fate long before now.
Probably not. The American spending on military equipment reflects the >>>> greed of American arms manufacturers, and their political influence.
if the American arms manufacturers had the power you think they have
they would used that power to stop Trump from pissing off every allied
at a time where they are all ready to spend more than ever on
This assumes that Trump can be controlled. He was - to some extent -
during his first term, but his supporters took the precaution of getting
rid of everybody who might block his silly ideas when he got in for his
second term.
It does mean that there is a pool of disgruntled ex-Trump-supporters
which the BBC and other journalists can draw on when they want to hear a different story from the official one. They do seem to be interviewing
more and more people from the first Trump administation these days.
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significantadversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of >>>>> the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!?ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.) >>>>
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago... >>>> We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!?ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have >>> difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/defense.
If you could attack the biggest tank in the Russian arsenal with tiny
drones that hit it and exploded every few minutes, how long would it be before the crew either surrendered, tried to escape and were hit or
simply went mad through lack of sleep?
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significantadversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of >>>>> the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!?ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.) >>>>
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago... >>>> We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!?ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have >>> difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/defense.
If you could attack tha biggest tank in the Russian arsenal with tiny
drones that hit it and exploded every few minutes, how long would it be before the crew either surrendered, tried to escape and were hit or
simply went mad through lack of sleep?
On 30/01/2026 5:43 am, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 12:24:59 +0100, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
In article <69795271$0$21961$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 6:03 PM, john larkin wrote:
The fundamental service johns tend to be paying for is for her to go >>>>>> away afterwards, not to fall in love with them..
Anyway I can't imagine professing my love for my GF after working all >>>>>> day in the weapons biz, like: "What'd you do today, honey?" "Oh you >>>>>> know, worked on some software for this thing that'll probably blow some >>>>>> poor bugger's limbs or head off, maybe make him a paraplegic or his wife >>>>>> a widow and kids orphans. Yeah I was really laying down some solid >>>>>> murderbot code at Murder Inc. today! Anyway, glad to be home, love ya >>>>>> babe. What's for dinner?"
Maybe they just say "it's classified" and leave it at that. I can see why.
If this post was from anyone else, I'd assume they were just having a >>>>> bad day.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
I'm just saying it's disappointing when the party of "small government" >>>> gets all excited over militaria. The "problems" involved aren't
particularly interesting and the "solutions" are mostly buggy junk, anyway.
"Our A.I.-powered platform processes battlefield data in real time,
adapting to changing conditions without human intervention,?? the
pamphlet says. ?Neutralize more targets at a fraction of legacy system >>>> costs. Deploy at scale to achieve overwhelming force multiplication
against sophisticated threats.?? The pamphlet claimed a ?future monthly >>>> production?? of more than 6,000 units.
As usual the NYT pretty much just repeats their military-industrial
master's breathless optimism about the new junk verbatim. I could just >>>> read the sales brochure
The military industry in China makes weapons.
The military industry in USA makes money.
The CCP biggies make the money.
Nowhere near as much as their American equivalents.
There was just a giant purge about
that. Probably has to do with tofu-dreg missiles or something.
More likely political differences of opinion.
The russians have the same issue: all the good parts have been stolen.
Not all of them. The Ukraine keeps on getting hit by IRBM's.
When I was working in the USSR, all sorts of stuff was stolen from our
work site. "Why not, it doesn't belong to anybody."
The bosses were silly enough to have hired you. More sensible employers >might have done better.
On 1/30/2026 6:25 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:If you could attack tha biggest tank in the Russian arsenal with tiny
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significantadversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of >>>>>> the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.) >>>>>
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago... >>>>> We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have >>>> difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/defense. >>
drones that hit it and exploded every few minutes, how long would it be
before the crew either surrendered, tried to escape and were hit or
simply went mad through lack of sleep?
Why waste efforts on such targets? Will ALL of the offenders "hide"
in tanks? FOREVER?? Are all of the support services similarly hiding
in tanks?
On 1/30/2026 6:25 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/30/2026 3:15 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Suppose Europe bought up all the Iranian drones, forcing Russia out of >>>> the market - and then gave them to Ukraine.
Wouldn't that just encourage the manufacturer to scale up production
(and, possibly, reap further economies of scale)?
That woulld take time - and their previous customer might not be in a
position to afford them (or use them) by then.
How would you ensure "previous contracts" were ignored in favor
of the "new customer"?ÿ Especially if they had a "special relationship"
with that customer (for other reasons beyond the sale of drones)?
The RIGHT solution would have been not to let things get to the point
they're at.ÿ Blame our ex president (with 40 years experience!)
and our current one (with literally NONE!).
[Of course, Europe and the rest of the world were complicit in not
stepping up, either -- "Maybe someone else will do it?"]
On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 16:07:37 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:
On 30/01/2026 5:43 am, john larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 12:24:59 +0100, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote:
In article <69795271$0$21961$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 6:03 PM, john larkin wrote:
The fundamental service johns tend to be paying for is for her to go >>>>>>> away afterwards, not to fall in love with them..
Anyway I can't imagine professing my love for my GF after working all >>>>>>> day in the weapons biz, like: "What'd you do today, honey?" "Oh you >>>>>>> know, worked on some software for this thing that'll probably blow some >>>>>>> poor bugger's limbs or head off, maybe make him a paraplegic or his wife
a widow and kids orphans. Yeah I was really laying down some solid >>>>>>> murderbot code at Murder Inc. today! Anyway, glad to be home, love ya >>>>>>> babe. What's for dinner?"
Maybe they just say "it's classified" and leave it at that. I can see why.
If this post was from anyone else, I'd assume they were just having a >>>>>> bad day.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
Lunatic Fringe Electronics
I'm just saying it's disappointing when the party of "small government" >>>>> gets all excited over militaria. The "problems" involved aren't
particularly interesting and the "solutions" are mostly buggy junk, anyway.
"Our A.I.-powered platform processes battlefield data in real time,
adapting to changing conditions without human intervention,ƒ?? the
pamphlet says. ƒ??Neutralize more targets at a fraction of legacy system >>>>> costs. Deploy at scale to achieve overwhelming force multiplication
against sophisticated threats.ƒ?? The pamphlet claimed a ƒ??future monthly
productionƒ?? of more than 6,000 units.
As usual the NYT pretty much just repeats their military-industrial
master's breathless optimism about the new junk verbatim. I could just >>>>> read the sales brochure
The military industry in China makes weapons.
The military industry in USA makes money.
The CCP biggies make the money.
Nowhere near as much as their American equivalents.
There was just a giant purge about
that. Probably has to do with tofu-dreg missiles or something.
More likely political differences of opinion.
The russians have the same issue: all the good parts have been stolen.
Not all of them. The Ukraine keeps on getting hit by IRBM's.
When I was working in the USSR, all sorts of stuff was stolen from our
work site. "Why not, it doesn't belong to anybody."
The bosses were silly enough to have hired you. More sensible employers
might have done better.
More lame insults. Don't you bore yourself?
My time in Moscow was interesting. They treated "American Capitalists"
like gods and treated common Russians like trash. Entirely backwards,
I thought.
We were transported in a warm bus onto a warm Aeroflot plane and given
hot tea, as a crowd of Russians waited outside to board, in the cold
rain.
We could buy stuff in shops in Moscow that Russian civilians were not
allowed to enter.
The Russian women, not just the mobs of hookers, were all over us.
They wanted to marry Americans, and my single male co-workers usually
came home with a Russian wife. I understand that it usually worked out
well.
On 1/30/26 05:25, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:If you could attack tha biggest tank in the Russian arsenal with tiny
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significantadversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of >>>>>> the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!?ÿ (It seems to be part of their mindset.) >>>>>
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years ago... >>>>> We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!?ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would have >>>> difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/defense. >>
drones that hit it and exploded every few minutes, how long would it be
before the crew either surrendered, tried to escape and were hit or
simply went mad through lack of sleep?
one Javelin is enough to do the job. Several dead tanks can attest to that.
On 1/30/2026 12:23 PM, wmartin wrote:
On 1/30/26 05:25, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 1/27/2026 5:55 PM, Don Y wrote:
Suddenly, "players" without deep pockets can become significant >>>>>>> adversaries!
Players without deep pockets have proved significant adversaries (of >>>>>>> the US at least) for 70 damn years!
But the military doesn't learn!?ÿ (It seems to be part of their
mindset.)
Note the Brits "learned" during the Revolutionary War 250 years
ago...
We have this belief that MORE technology is ALWAYS the solution
("We need drone jammers!!?ÿ That evolve to adapt to a rapidly
evolving drone ecosystem...")
Sounds like they've invented a very slow cruise missile which would >>>>> have
difficulty penetrating mosquito netting
"Enough" of anything (sticks and stones) can overwhelm any offense/
defense.
If you could attack tha biggest tank in the Russian arsenal with tiny
drones that hit it and exploded every few minutes, how long would it be
before the crew either surrendered, tried to escape and were hit or
simply went mad through lack of sleep?
one Javelin is enough to do the job. Several dead tanks can attest to
that.
Imagine a GAU8 in an unmanned drone...ÿ <grin>
one Javelin is enough to do the job. Several dead tanks can attest to that. >>Imagine a GAU8 in an unmanned drone...ÿ <grin>
Could be fun...unless the drone starts backing up from recoil!
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:09:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>wrote:
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
Approximately 2% of all Russian men aged 20-50 may have been killed or >>>seriously wounded by Ukrainians, many with smart drones.
The r/u casuality ratio is over 2:1 and likely increasing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war_
Why dio so many people sympathize with genocidal thugs?
tramp is, among many more bad and evil things, a genocidel thug who killed thousands in Gaza by supplying arms to the religious
fanatic YouWitz sect
Killed people in Venezuela
killed people in boats
Killed US people in Minnesota
Probably had Epstein killed so he would not talk about his sex
He wants to do the same in Iran now, wants to kill Cubans, invade Cuba, steals oil just like double you you bushman did in
Iraq
What a bunch of crap 'merrica has become
World may unload its radioactive waste on those divided states any time now, the doomsday clock is making noises.
tramp ape has no respect for anything but maybe a gun on - or a bullet through the empty bubble mounted above his shoulders.
ego maniac nutcase he is.
And the more stupid the 'leader' the more the simple minded follow him: Youws and 'Adam did it with Eve' reciters.
The best thing Cuba could do for its people is start a war with the US
and lose. Of course, the communist party is dumb, but not that dumb.
John Larkin
Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
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