From:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260121034125.htm
Life?s chemistry may begin in the cold darkness of space
The building blocks of life may be forming in deep space long before planets are born.
Date:
January 21, 2026
Source:
Aarhus University
Summary:
New experiments reveal that protein precursors can form naturally in deep space under extreme cold and radiation.
Scientists found that simple amino acids bond into peptides on interstellar dust, long before stars and planets exist.
This challenges the idea that complex life chemistry only happens on planets.
It also boosts the odds that life-friendly ingredients are widespread across the universe.
Paper:
pay link
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-025-02765-7
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 3:00 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
From:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260121034125.htm
Life?s chemistry may begin in the cold darkness of space
The building blocks of life may be forming in deep space long before planets are born.
Date:
January 21, 2026
Source:
Aarhus University
Summary:
New experiments reveal that protein precursors can form naturally in deep space under extreme cold and radiation.
Scientists found that simple amino acids bond into peptides on interstellar dust, long before stars and planets exist.
This challenges the idea that complex life chemistry only happens on planets.
It also boosts the odds that life-friendly ingredients are widespread across the universe.
Paper:
pay link
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-025-02765-7
It doesn't. Complex life chemistry is all about energy flows. Without a >nearby star there's no energy flowing,
so all that complex chemistry is
stone cold dead. If it eventually drifts close enough to a star it may
get exploited by something a little bit closer to a living thing.
The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex
chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can
drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals >apart.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 3:00 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
From:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260121034125.htm
Life?s chemistry may begin in the cold darkness of space
The building blocks of life may be forming in deep space long before planets are born.
Date:
January 21, 2026
Source:
Aarhus University
Summary:
New experiments reveal that protein precursors can form naturally in deep space under extreme cold and radiation.
Scientists found that simple amino acids bond into peptides on interstellar dust, long before stars and planets exist.
This challenges the idea that complex life chemistry only happens on planets.
It also boosts the odds that life-friendly ingredients are widespread across the universe.
Paper:
pay link
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-025-02765-7
It doesn't. Complex life chemistry is all about energy flows. Without a
nearby star there's no energy flowing,
No, think 'big bang' for a moment.,
There IS a VERY big energy source working all the time.
And is what causes things to expand, I think Le Sage, but go for dark energy and dark matter theory if you want...
And finally our 'big bang' is likely not the only one with other radiation from other big bangs and galaxies everywhere,
like water molecules in an ocean (bit strange compare but OK).
so all that complex chemistry is
stone cold dead. If it eventually drifts close enough to a star it may
get exploited by something a little bit closer to a living thing.
The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex
chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can
drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals
apart.
What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical processes did lead to
a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..
And what else is possible?
We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen
And we are all connected.
We, like an ant in the garden...
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 3:00 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
From:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260121034125.htm
Life?s chemistry may begin in the cold darkness of space
The building blocks of life may be forming in deep space long before planets are born.
Date:
January 21, 2026
Source:
Aarhus University
Summary:
New experiments reveal that protein precursors can form naturally in deep space under extreme cold and radiation.
Scientists found that simple amino acids bond into peptides on interstellar dust, long before stars and planets exist.
This challenges the idea that complex life chemistry only happens on planets.
It also boosts the odds that life-friendly ingredients are widespread across the universe.
Paper:
pay link
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-025-02765-7
It doesn't. Complex life chemistry is all about energy flows. Without a >nearby star there's no energy flowing,
so all that complex chemistry is
stone cold dead. If it eventually drifts close enough to a star it may
get exploited by something a little bit closer to a living thing.
The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex
chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can
drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals >apart.
=?UTF-8?Q?Niocl=C3=A1s_P=C3=B3l_Caile=C3=A1n?= de Ghloucester <thanks-to@Taf.com>wrote:
Jan Panteltje schreef: >|----------------------------------------------------------------------||"[. . .] but go for dark energy and dark matter theory if you want..."| >|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
I am a professional physicist under a supervisrix who professes to
work on dark matter, and persons who do not bother to report correctly >profess that I be dedicated to dark matter.
Dark-matter professionals are dishonest and evil.
"This was my first attempt to express in the scientific literature my >concerns for the viability of the dark matter paradigm, and my
puzzlement that the only theory to get any genuine predictions right
was MOND. It was the hardest admission in my career that this could be
even a remote possibility. Nevertheless, intellectual honesty demanded
that I report it. To fail to do so would be an act of reality denial >antithetical to the foundational principles of science."
says
HTTPS://TritonStation.com/2020/12/31/25-years-a-heretic/
"That?s a painful process, and there is an urge in human nature to
deny such things, to pretend they never happened, or to assert that
what was wrong was right all along."
says
HTTPS://TritonStation.com/2021/04/12/divergence/
"It often happens that data are ambiguous and open to multiple >interpretations. The evidence for dark matter is an obvious example. I >frequently hear permutations on the statement
| We know dark matter exists; we just need to find it.
This is said in all earnestness by serious scientists who clearly
believe what they say. They mean it. Unfortunately, meaning something
in all seriousness, indeed, believing it with the intensity of
religious fervor, does not guarantee that it is so.
The way the statement above is phrased is a dangerous half-truth."
says
HTTPS://TritonStation.com/2021/04/16/bias-all-the-way-down/
"Kuhn noted that as paradigms reach their breaking point, there is a >divergence of opinions between scientists about what the important
evidence is, or what even counts as evidence. This has come to pass in
the debate over whether dark matter or modified gravity is a better >interpretation of the acceleration discrepancy problem."
says >HTTPS://TritonStation.com/2023/01/13/what-we-have-here-is-a-failure-to-communicate/
Jan Panteltje schreef: |----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|"[. . .] but go for dark energy and dark matter theory if you want..."| |----------------------------------------------------------------------|
I am a professional physicist under a supervisrix who professes to
work on dark matter, and persons who do not bother to report correctly profess that I be dedicated to dark matter.
Dark-matter professionals are dishonest and evil.
"This was my first attempt to express in the scientific literature my concerns for the viability of the dark matter paradigm, and my
puzzlement that the only theory to get any genuine predictions right
was MOND. It was the hardest admission in my career that this could be
even a remote possibility. Nevertheless, intellectual honesty demanded
that I report it. To fail to do so would be an act of reality denial antithetical to the foundational principles of science."
says
HTTPS://TritonStation.com/2020/12/31/25-years-a-heretic/
"That?s a painful process, and there is an urge in human nature to
deny such things, to pretend they never happened, or to assert that
what was wrong was right all along."
says
HTTPS://TritonStation.com/2021/04/12/divergence/
"It often happens that data are ambiguous and open to multiple interpretations. The evidence for dark matter is an obvious example. I frequently hear permutations on the statement
| We know dark matter exists; we just need to find it.
This is said in all earnestness by serious scientists who clearly
believe what they say. They mean it. Unfortunately, meaning something
in all seriousness, indeed, believing it with the intensity of
religious fervor, does not guarantee that it is so.
The way the statement above is phrased is a dangerous half-truth."
says
HTTPS://TritonStation.com/2021/04/16/bias-all-the-way-down/
"Kuhn noted that as paradigms reach their breaking point, there is a divergence of opinions between scientists about what the important
evidence is, or what even counts as evidence. This has come to pass in
the debate over whether dark matter or modified gravity is a better interpretation of the acceleration discrepancy problem."
says HTTPS://TritonStation.com/2023/01/13/what-we-have-here-is-a-failure-to-communicate/
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 6:58 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 3:00 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
From:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260121034125.htm
Life?s chemistry may begin in the cold darkness of space
The building blocks of life may be forming in deep space long before planets are born.
Date:
January 21, 2026
Source:
Aarhus University
Summary:
New experiments reveal that protein precursors can form naturally in deep space under extreme cold and radiation.
Scientists found that simple amino acids bond into peptides on interstellar dust, long before stars and planets exist.
This challenges the idea that complex life chemistry only happens on planets.
It also boosts the odds that life-friendly ingredients are widespread across the universe.
Paper:
pay link
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-025-02765-7
It doesn't. Complex life chemistry is all about energy flows. Without a
nearby star there's no energy flowing,
No, think 'big bang' for a moment.,
There IS a VERY big energy source working all the time.
And is what causes things to expand, I think Le Sage, but go for dark energy and dark matter theory if you want...
But none of the life we know about exploits any of that. The stuff we
know about on earth pretty much entirely exploit the the energy we get
from the sun. There are creatures that exploit other energy sources, but >they are clearly descended from the main stream that exploits solar energy.
And finally our 'big bang' is likely not the only one with other radiation from other big bangs and galaxies everywhere,
like water molecules in an ocean (bit strange compare but OK).
It's possible that it isn't the only one - every black hole could
surround a new universe - but speculations about inacessible universes
are a waste of time.
so all that complex chemistry is
stone cold dead. If it eventually drifts close enough to a star it may
get exploited by something a little bit closer to a living thing.
The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex
chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can
drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals
apart.
What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical processes did lead to
a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..
You'd probably find it a bit more fascinating if you knew a little more >about it, but your current level of ignorance suggests you'd need quite
a few human lifetimes to get there.
And what else is possible?
We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen
And we are all connected.
We, like an ant in the garden...
An ant in the garden relies on chemical signalling - pheromones - to a
much greater extent than we do, so it's not a good example.
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 6:58 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex
chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can
drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals >>>> apart.
What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical processes did lead to
a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..
You'd probably find it a bit more fascinating if you knew a little more
about it, but your current level of ignorance suggests you'd need quite
a few human lifetimes to get there.
And what else is possible?
We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen
And we are all connected.
We, like an ant in the garden...
An ant in the garden relies on chemical signalling - pheromones - to a
much greater extent than we do, so it's not a good example.
Ment as an indicating of size versus world they (we live in).
We have a big bigger brain.. and know a bit more.
But then who will survive longer ?
Some insects have been shown to survice in free space outside the ISS.
Those insects did not even know how to make space-suits ;-)
Some years ago I was following some of the lectures on youtube about astronomy, have a look!
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 15:42, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 6:58 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex
chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can >>>>> drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals >>>>> apart.
Deep sea volcanic vents are another possibility for the origin of life.
What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical processes did lead to
a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..
You'd probably find it a bit more fascinating if you knew a little more
about it, but your current level of ignorance suggests you'd need quite
a few human lifetimes to get there.
And what else is possible?
We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen
And we are all connected.
We, like an ant in the garden...
An ant in the garden relies on chemical signalling - pheromones - to a
much greater extent than we do, so it's not a good example.
Ment as an indicating of size versus world they (we live in).
We have a big bigger brain.. and know a bit more.
But then who will survive longer ?
Some insects have been shown to survice in free space outside the ISS.
Those insects did not even know how to make space-suits ;-)
Tardigrades are not quite arthropods or insects - they are much older
and more primitive. Incredibly resilient in their dormant 'tun' state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 15:42, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 6:58 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex >>>>>> chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can >>>>>> drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals >>>>>> apart.
Deep sea volcanic vents are another possibility for the origin of life.
What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical processes did lead to
a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..
You'd probably find it a bit more fascinating if you knew a little more >>>> about it, but your current level of ignorance suggests you'd need quite >>>> a few human lifetimes to get there.
And what else is possible?
We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen
And we are all connected.
We, like an ant in the garden...
An ant in the garden relies on chemical signalling - pheromones - to a >>>> much greater extent than we do, so it's not a good example.
Ment as an indicating of size versus world they (we live in).
We have a big bigger brain.. and know a bit more.
But then who will survive longer ?
Some insects have been shown to survice in free space outside the ISS.
Those insects did not even know how to make space-suits ;-)
Tardigrades are not quite arthropods or insects - they are much older
and more primitive. Incredibly resilient in their dormant 'tun' state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade
Nice article, It also says this:
In 2019, a capsule containing tardigrades in a cryptobiotic state was on board the Israeli lunar lander Beresheet which crashed on the Moon.[24]
So, apart from moon-dust the next moon travellers will have Tardigrades to watch out for? Or for dinner?
There is some water / ice I have read near the Moon's poles?
That Artemis mission is on the launch-pad now...
Will it work?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 05:44:06 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 15:42, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 6:58 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex >>>>>>> chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can >>>>>>> drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals >>>>>>> apart.
Deep sea volcanic vents are another possibility for the origin of life.
What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical processes did lead to
a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..
You'd probably find it a bit more fascinating if you knew a little more >>>>> about it, but your current level of ignorance suggests you'd need quite >>>>> a few human lifetimes to get there.
And what else is possible?
We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen
And we are all connected.
We, like an ant in the garden...
An ant in the garden relies on chemical signalling - pheromones - to a >>>>> much greater extent than we do, so it's not a good example.
Ment as an indicating of size versus world they (we live in).
We have a big bigger brain.. and know a bit more.
But then who will survive longer ?
Some insects have been shown to survice in free space outside the ISS. >>>> Those insects did not even know how to make space-suits ;-)
Tardigrades are not quite arthropods or insects - they are much older
and more primitive. Incredibly resilient in their dormant 'tun' state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade
Nice article, It also says this:
In 2019, a capsule containing tardigrades in a cryptobiotic state was on board the Israeli lunar lander Beresheet which crashed on the Moon.[24]
So, apart from moon-dust the next moon travellers will have Tardigrades to watch out for? Or for dinner?
There is some water / ice I have read near the Moon's poles?
That Artemis mission is on the launch-pad now...
Will it work?
Does it make any sense?
john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 05:44:06 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>wrote:
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 15:42, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
On 22/01/2026 6:58 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>wrote:
The progression from complex chemistry to self-replicating complex >>>>>>> chemistry does depend on some kind of reliable energy source that can >>>>>>> drive the replication before cosmic rays can rip the complex chemicals >>>>>>> apart.
Deep sea volcanic vents are another possibility for the origin of life.
What I find fascinating is how that energy and those simple chemical processes did lead to
a piece of silicon and our smartphones etc etc..
You'd probably find it a bit more fascinating if you knew a little more >>>>> about it, but your current level of ignorance suggests you'd need quite >>>>> a few human lifetimes to get there.
And what else is possible?
We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen
And we are all connected.
We, like an ant in the garden...
An ant in the garden relies on chemical signalling - pheromones - to a >>>>> much greater extent than we do, so it's not a good example.
Ment as an indicating of size versus world they (we live in).
We have a big bigger brain.. and know a bit more.
But then who will survive longer ?
Some insects have been shown to survice in free space outside the ISS. >>>> Those insects did not even know how to make space-suits ;-)
Tardigrades are not quite arthropods or insects - they are much older >>>and more primitive. Incredibly resilient in their dormant 'tun' state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade
Nice article, It also says this:
In 2019, a capsule containing tardigrades in a cryptobiotic state was on board the Israeli lunar lander Beresheet which
crashed on the Moon.[24]
So, apart from moon-dust the next moon travellers will have Tardigrades to watch out for? Or for dinner?
There is some water / ice I have read near the Moon's poles?
That Artemis mission is on the launch-pad now...
Will it work?
Does it make any sense?
And what else is possible?
We are so young as species, so many places in what we call our universe where such incredible things happen
And we are all connected.
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