Don't suppose anyone has this for sale, with SP6 and key?
email me if you have or know someone that has.. I'm fed up with Protel
Client - keeps on crashing.

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"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:10kqs2u$27kto$1@dont-email.me...

Don't suppose anyone has this for sale, with SP6 and key?
email me if you have or know someone that has.. I'm fed up with Protel Client - keeps on crashing.

You'll have a hard time finding it for sale these days.
And I've never tried running it on anything other than XP.

If it's not a very complex design then why not try this: https://github.com/thesourcerer8/altium2kicad

It worked for me a few years ago with a fairly complex board.

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On 21/01/2026 16:21, Edward Rawde wrote:

"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:10kqs2u$27kto$1@dont-email.me...

Don't suppose anyone has this for sale, with SP6 and key?
email me if you have or know someone that has.. I'm fed up with Protel Client - keeps on crashing.

You'll have a hard time finding it for sale these days.
And I've never tried running it on anything other than XP.

If it's not a very complex design then why not try this: https://github.com/thesourcerer8/altium2kicad

It worked for me a few years ago with a fairly complex board.

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There's a 'fix' to allow P99 to run on 64 bit on DiyAudio forum. It
involves patching 2 10 byte strings in the .exe with NOPs....
The converter won't work for me as I want to make new designs. All of
the 'free' EDA packages I've looked at are way too complex for my old
brain..

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On 1/21/2026 3:55 PM, TTman wrote:

The converter won't work for me as I want to make new designs. All of the 'free' EDA packages I've looked at are way too complex for my old brain..

How complex do you imagine those designs to be? I.e., the harder
you push the tools, the better the tools you will need.

The opposite also being true: simpler tools for less stressed use.

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"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:10krlgd$2gu9e$1@dont-email.me...

On 21/01/2026 16:21, Edward Rawde wrote:

"TTman" <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in message news:10kqs2u$27kto$1@dont-email.me...

Don't suppose anyone has this for sale, with SP6 and key?
email me if you have or know someone that has.. I'm fed up with Protel Client - keeps on crashing.

You'll have a hard time finding it for sale these days.
And I've never tried running it on anything other than XP.

If it's not a very complex design then why not try this:
https://github.com/thesourcerer8/altium2kicad

It worked for me a few years ago with a fairly complex board.

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There's a 'fix' to allow P99 to run on 64 bit on DiyAudio forum. It involves patching 2 10 byte strings in the .exe with NOPs....
The converter won't work for me as I want to make new designs. All of the 'free' EDA packages I've looked at are way too complex
for my old brain.

It appears to be downloadable if you think yandex and dig hard enough.
Also torrent.
But I'd test any such download on an isolated wipeable box or VM.



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On 21/01/2026 23:23, Don Y wrote:

On 1/21/2026 3:55 PM, TTman wrote:

The converter won't work for me as I want to make new designs. All of
the 'free' EDA packages I've looked at are way too complex for my old
brain..

How complex do you imagine those designs to be?ÿ I.e., the harder
you push the tools, the better the tools you will need.

The opposite also being true:ÿ simpler tools for less stressed use.

A few simple designs ATM... 2x 7 seg LEDs ( 3 sizes) 14 x sm leds.
Doesn't get much simpler than that. If I wanted to be a cheap skate, I'd
just lay out the PCB without a schematic, but that's piss poor doing it
that way. It has to be schematic, netlist,pcb.

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On 1/22/2026 5:10 PM, TTman wrote:

On 21/01/2026 23:23, Don Y wrote:

On 1/21/2026 3:55 PM, TTman wrote:

The converter won't work for me as I want to make new designs. All of the >>> 'free' EDA packages I've looked at are way too complex for my old brain.. >>

How complex do you imagine those designs to be?ÿ I.e., the harder
you push the tools, the better the tools you will need.

The opposite also being true:ÿ simpler tools for less stressed use.

A few simple designs ATM... 2x 7 seg LEDs ( 3 sizes) 14 x sm leds. Doesn't get
much simpler than that. If I wanted to be a cheap skate, I'd just lay out the
PCB without a schematic, but that's piss poor doing it that way. It has to be
schematic, netlist,pcb.

If you are *starting* on plans for future usage, you may find a
zero-dollar solution like gEDA/KiCAD. Any legacy tool that you
embrace will be frozen in time -- both in terms of new features,
bug fixes and support community.

[How many folks do you think can help with STRIDES/DASH-PCB?]

It's a different calculus if you are trying to maintain a
previous design and are bound to some legacy tool. But,
a clean break going forward on "new work" may be your best
solution.

EDA has huge investment costs that make moving from one tool
to another difficult (schematic libraries, simulation models,
layout footprints). I've built libraries for essentially
each contract I've taken as work done on some other client's
"favorite tool" was useless for another client's preference.

I've heard horror stories about Eagle (not sure if those
persist now that Autodesk is in the picture -- amusingly,
I used AutoCAD on some REALLY early board layouts, but
mainly as an etch-a-sketch). Many sounded dubious but I
never (crashes, being locked out of a design, etc.)
investigated further.

STRIDES was the easiest schematic capture tool to use, IMO.
But, a dead-end other than DASH-PCB. (and the symbol editor was
a royal kludge)

Protel, PADS, Altium, OrCAD, DIPTrace, etc. (and their various renamings)
all have their own "issues".

My point being, just PICK one that you can live with. If low/no
cost is a criteria, then your choices are limited to open source, student/evaluation (limited functionality) editions and warez.


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