• Tool for melting plastic stub fixing?

    From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 12:31:03
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun, but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...


    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From legg@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 08:03:17
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun, >but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip >like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...


    Even the cheapet gear seems to manage self-tapping screws for this
    kind of mechanical security, these days.

    RL

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  • From Roger Mills@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 15:50:17
    On 19/01/2026 12:31, Ian wrote:
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun, but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...


    It's outside my experience - but apparently it's called Thermal Staking,
    and does indeed use ultrasonics in a factory situation.

    There do seem to be a few DIY options - see https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&sca_esv=92a4bc9839683100&cs=0&sxsrf=ANbL-n576D7R8snGWz0Lixz3mYHDljUGXg:1768836969939&q=Thermal+stake+tool&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjM4Iea95eSAxUsa0EAHUncExsQpboHKAV6BAgDEAc&biw=1376&bih=979&dpr=1.1&aic=0
    but nothing specifically for your Weller

    --
    Cheers,
    Roger

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  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 08:00:20
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun, >but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip >like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    It would be easy to glue them, like with a UV-cure adhesive.




    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 17:14:43
    On 19/01/2026 16:00, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold
    non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    I may have several hundred to do...

    It would be easy to glue them, like with a UV-cure adhesive.

    Dab of hotSnot?


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    the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
    authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

    Fr‚d‚ric Bastiat


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  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 09:24:43
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 17:14:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 19/01/2026 16:00, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian
    <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com>
    wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >>> through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold
    non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    I may have several hundred to do...

    It would be easy to glue them, like with a UV-cure adhesive.

    Dab of hotSnot?

    Try that and let us know how it works.

    I had in mind Bondic or an eqivalent. Use a UV flashlight, not the
    dinky blue LED that comes with it. Dab and flash in maybe 8 seconds.




    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

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  • From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 18:17:54
    On 2026-01-19, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 17:14:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
    <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 19/01/2026 16:00, john larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian
    <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> >>> wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >>>> through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold
    non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    I may have several hundred to do...

    It would be easy to glue them, like with a UV-cure adhesive.

    Dab of hotSnot?

    Try that and let us know how it works.

    I had in mind Bondic or an eqivalent. Use a UV flashlight, not the
    dinky blue LED that comes with it. Dab and flash in maybe 8 seconds.

    Ta. Glue of some kind is a good suggestion. Will do some experiments.


    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 18:19:09
    On 2026-01-19, Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:31, Ian wrote:
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold
    non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...


    It's outside my experience - but apparently it's called Thermal Staking,
    and does indeed use ultrasonics in a factory situation.

    There do seem to be a few DIY options - see https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&sca_esv=92a4bc9839683100&cs=0&sxsrf=ANbL-n576D7R8snGWz0Lixz3mYHDljUGXg:1768836969939&q=Thermal+stake+tool&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjM4Iea95eSAxUsa0EAHUncExsQpboHKAV6BAgDEAc&biw=1376&bih=979&dpr=1.1&aic=0
    but nothing specifically for your Weller

    Thanks for the search term, I had no idea what it was called :)


    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 10:21:50
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun, >but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip >like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Joe Gwinn@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 13:43:32
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:21:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian ><${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> >wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >>through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun, >>but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two >>black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip >>like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Press fit does not work for plastics except delrin - the stress causes
    other plastics to crack and fracture.

    Joe

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  • From Don@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 19:02:28
    Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:31, Ian wrote:
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold
    non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...


    It's outside my experience - but apparently it's called Thermal Staking,
    and does indeed use ultrasonics in a factory situation.

    There do seem to be a few DIY options - see
    <snip>
    but nothing specifically for your Weller

    <https://youtu.be/U86GsflNjJQ>

    pertains to a DIY tip for a Weller. It looks easy enough.

    One professional product's pricier than a piece of copper wire from
    your junk drawer:

    <https://www.jensentools.com/product/673SO553-C245053> <https://www.jensentools.com/product/10053441-AD-SF>

    --
    73, Don, KB7RPU veritas _|_
    liberabit | https://www.qsl.net/kb7rpu vos |


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  • From Don Y@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 13:47:27
    On 1/19/2026 5:31 AM, Ian wrote:
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    Usually, they nestle into structures created to hold them where intended.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun, but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    Yes. Or, see below.

    I may have several hundred to do...

    These then become disposable items? No real chance of repair? (as long
    as you think that appropriate...) I consider my enclosures to be discardable but replaced at the depot (reusing the "guts")

    Screws? Mechanically clamping it in place with a boss extending from
    the other half of the enclosure?

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 13:03:52
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:43:32 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:21:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian >><${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> >>wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >>>through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two >>>black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Press fit does not work for plastics except delrin - the stress causes
    other plastics to crack and fracture.

    Joe

    That depends on how hard you squeeze it.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From TTman@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 22:42:13
    On 19/01/2026 12:31, Ian wrote:
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun, but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...



    Buy 'starlock washers' from Ebay etc. Push on, don't come off- so long
    as you use the right diameter- not hard if going over a plastic 'stud'.


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  • From Jan Panteltje@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 02:55:46
    Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid>wrote:
    On 1/19/2026 5:31 AM, Ian wrote:
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold
    non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    Usually, they nestle into structures created to hold them where intended.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    Yes. Or, see below.

    I may have several hundred to do...

    These then become disposable items? No real chance of repair? (as long
    as you think that appropriate...) I consider my enclosures to be discardable >but replaced at the depot (reusing the "guts")

    Screws? Mechanically clamping it in place with a boss extending from
    the other half of the enclosure?

    I have used ty-ribs ...
    https://panteltje.nl/pub/ultrasonic_antifouling_bigger_transformer_IMG_5179.JPG
    https://www.visserenvisser.nl/ty-ribs-kabelbinders-30-cm-per-100-stuks

    Hotglue is also magic stuff to fixate things, you need a special 'iron' for that.
    Only a few dollars from ebay.


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  • From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 08:16:11
    On 2026-01-19, Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
    Roger Mills <mills37.fslife@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:31, Ian wrote:
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >>> through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold
    non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...


    It's outside my experience - but apparently it's called Thermal Staking,
    and does indeed use ultrasonics in a factory situation.

    There do seem to be a few DIY options - see
    <snip>
    but nothing specifically for your Weller

    <https://youtu.be/U86GsflNjJQ>

    pertains to a DIY tip for a Weller. It looks easy enough.

    Yep, it's just thick copper wire/rod with a thinner bit as the "tip".


    One professional product's pricier than a piece of copper wire from
    your junk drawer:

    <https://www.jensentools.com/product/673SO553-C245053>

    That's the sort of thing I was expecting to find, so it can be done
    that way.


    <https://www.jensentools.com/product/10053441-AD-SF>

    Ouch (and that's just the stand!)


    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 08:17:50
    On 2026-01-19, TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 19/01/2026 12:31, Ian wrote:
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold
    non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...



    Buy 'starlock washers' from Ebay etc. Push on, don't come off- so long
    as you use the right diameter- not hard if going over a plastic 'stud'.

    Sounds fiddly, especially if the studs are short, but added to the list of options...


    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 08:20:02
    On 2026-01-19, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian
    <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com>
    wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >>through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun, >>but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two >>black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip >>like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Maybe. I'd be worried about them working loose after a while (there will be some
    mechanical stress).


    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 08:34:56
    On 2026-01-19, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
    On 1/19/2026 5:31 AM, Ian wrote:
    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold
    non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    Usually, they nestle into structures created to hold them where intended.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    Yes. Or, see below.

    I may have several hundred to do...

    These then become disposable items? No real chance of repair? (as long
    as you think that appropriate...) I consider my enclosures to be discardable but replaced at the depot (reusing the "guts")

    Repair would be to cut off the fixings with side-cutters / scalpel, desolder and replace (it's for components, not the case).


    Screws? Mechanically clamping it in place with a boss extending from
    the other half of the enclosure?

    It's for keyboard switches, which are a given, so I have to work with what they are.


    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Don Y@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 03:05:39
    I may have several hundred to do...

    These then become disposable items? No real chance of repair? (as long
    as you think that appropriate...) I consider my enclosures to be discardable
    but replaced at the depot (reusing the "guts")

    Repair would be to cut off the fixings with side-cutters / scalpel, desolder and replace (it's for components, not the case).

    Then you likely want something that is repeatable. Using a "random
    heating element" would likely result in too much variability.

    Screws? Mechanically clamping it in place with a boss extending from
    the other half of the enclosure?

    It's for keyboard switches, which are a given, so I have to work with what they
    are.

    My bad. I see you stated effectively that in your original post. :<


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Joe Gwinn@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 12:10:34
    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:03:52 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:43:32 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:21:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian >>><${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> >>>wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >>>>through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>>>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two >>>>black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Press fit does not work for plastics except delrin - the stress causes >>other plastics to crack and fracture.

    Joe

    That depends on how hard you squeeze it.

    Yes, but "press fit" implies a pretty strong push.

    Maybe a push fit is better, although imprecise.

    Temperature will matter. The failure mechanism is stress cracking.
    Only Delrin is reliable in such setups.

    Joe

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 12:07:49
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:10:34 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:03:52 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:43:32 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:21:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian >>>><${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> >>>>wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >>>>>through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>>>>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two >>>>>black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Press fit does not work for plastics except delrin - the stress causes >>>other plastics to crack and fracture.

    Joe

    That depends on how hard you squeeze it.

    Yes, but "press fit" implies a pretty strong push.

    Maybe a push fit is better, although imprecise.

    Temperature will matter. The failure mechanism is stress cracking.
    Only Delrin is reliable in such setups.

    Joe

    We really don't know what the OP is doing.

    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Joe Gwinn@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 18:09:39
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:07:49 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:10:34 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:03:52 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:43:32 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> >>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:21:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian >>>>><${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> >>>>>wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke >>>>>>through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>>>>>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two >>>>>>black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Press fit does not work for plastics except delrin - the stress causes >>>>other plastics to crack and fracture.

    Joe

    That depends on how hard you squeeze it.

    Yes, but "press fit" implies a pretty strong push.

    Maybe a push fit is better, although imprecise.

    Temperature will matter. The failure mechanism is stress cracking.
    Only Delrin is reliable in such setups.

    Joe

    We really don't know what the OP is doing.

    Yeah. I've seen enough to know that the original proposal was iffy
    because getting plastics to work that way requires pretty deep
    knowledge of the properties of plastics.

    As others have said, probably best to use metal screws.

    Joe

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 08:24:16
    On 2026-01-20, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:07:49 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:10:34 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:03:52 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:43:32 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:21:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian >>>>>><${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> >>>>>>wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>>>>>>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two >>>>>>>black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Press fit does not work for plastics except delrin - the stress causes >>>>>other plastics to crack and fracture.

    Joe

    That depends on how hard you squeeze it.

    Yes, but "press fit" implies a pretty strong push.

    Maybe a push fit is better, although imprecise.

    Temperature will matter. The failure mechanism is stress cracking.
    Only Delrin is reliable in such setups.

    Joe


    We really don't know what the OP is doing.

    Fixing standard keyswitches to a PCB.


    Yeah. I've seen enough to know that the original proposal was iffy
    because getting plastics to work that way requires pretty deep
    knowledge of the properties of plastics.

    As others have said, probably best to use metal screws.


    They are made with plastic pegs for mechanical fixing, I'm just punting
    for a tool to "fix" them. More d-i-y than mass production, but a large
    number to do and I want them to be reliable.

    The plastic properties are unknown, but inspection suggests "melting" them
    is the standard method. Screws aren't an option.

    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From john larkin@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 07:46:20
    On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 08:24:16 -0000 (UTC), Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> wrote:

    On 2026-01-20, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:07:49 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:10:34 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> >>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:03:52 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:43:32 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> >>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:21:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian >>>>>>><${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com>
    wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>>>>>>>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two >>>>>>>>black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Press fit does not work for plastics except delrin - the stress causes >>>>>>other plastics to crack and fracture.

    Joe

    That depends on how hard you squeeze it.

    Yes, but "press fit" implies a pretty strong push.

    Maybe a push fit is better, although imprecise.

    Temperature will matter. The failure mechanism is stress cracking. >>>>Only Delrin is reliable in such setups.

    Joe


    We really don't know what the OP is doing.

    Fixing standard keyswitches to a PCB.


    Yeah. I've seen enough to know that the original proposal was iffy
    because getting plastics to work that way requires pretty deep
    knowledge of the properties of plastics.

    As others have said, probably best to use metal screws.


    They are made with plastic pegs for mechanical fixing, I'm just punting
    for a tool to "fix" them. More d-i-y than mass production, but a large
    number to do and I want them to be reliable.

    The plastic properties are unknown, but inspection suggests "melting" them
    is the standard method. Screws aren't an option.

    The glue gun idea sounds right.


    John Larkin
    Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center
    Lunatic Fringe Electronics

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Jasen Betts@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 26, 2026 10:41:56
    On 2026-01-21, Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> wrote:
    On 2026-01-20, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:07:49 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:10:34 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> >>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:03:52 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:43:32 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> >>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:21:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian >>>>>>><${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com>
    wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>>>>>>>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two >>>>>>>>black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Press fit does not work for plastics except delrin - the stress causes >>>>>>other plastics to crack and fracture.

    Joe

    That depends on how hard you squeeze it.

    Yes, but "press fit" implies a pretty strong push.

    Maybe a push fit is better, although imprecise.

    Temperature will matter. The failure mechanism is stress cracking. >>>>Only Delrin is reliable in such setups.

    Joe


    We really don't know what the OP is doing.

    Fixing standard keyswitches to a PCB.

    I think the dowels are just for alignment, I've never seen them staked.
    but I've only looked in about 10 different keyboards.

    They are made with plastic pegs for mechanical fixing, I'm just punting
    for a tool to "fix" them. More d-i-y than mass production, but a large
    number to do and I want them to be reliable.

    The plastic properties are unknown, but inspection suggests "melting" them
    is the standard method. Screws aren't an option.

    But yeah if they are stakable then the switch datasheet should have
    the needed details (temperature and force needed)

    Cherry's datasheets don't even have pad and hole drawings, Kailh's datasheet doesn't mention staking.

    --
    Jasen.
    ?? ????? ???????

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ian@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 26, 2026 14:19:59
    On 2026-01-26, Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:
    On 2026-01-21, Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> wrote:
    On 2026-01-20, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:07:49 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:10:34 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> >>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:03:52 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 13:43:32 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> >>>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 10:21:50 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>>>wrote:

    On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:31:03 -0000 (UTC), Ian >>>>>>>><${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com>
    wrote:

    I'm looking for a tool to "melt" those plastic stub/peg fixings that poke
    through PCB holes to give mechanical strength to large items, or hold >>>>>>>>>non-electrical things like light guides in place.

    For a quick bodge I just use the standard soldering bit in a Weller heat gun,
    but that always looks messy and probably isn't very secure, see the two
    black blobs on this:

    https://www.jusme.com/perm/switchbox.jpg

    I was hoping there would be a suitable bit for the Weller, with a concave tip
    like this, but can't see anyting suitable:


    =========================###
    #(
    ===========###
    //
    ============

    I suppose I could mod a normal bit to be hollow, but how are these things normally
    done (ultrasonics?)

    I may have several hundred to do...

    Press fit into oval holes.

    Press fit does not work for plastics except delrin - the stress causes >>>>>>>other plastics to crack and fracture.

    Joe

    That depends on how hard you squeeze it.

    Yes, but "press fit" implies a pretty strong push.

    Maybe a push fit is better, although imprecise.

    Temperature will matter. The failure mechanism is stress cracking. >>>>>Only Delrin is reliable in such setups.

    Joe


    We really don't know what the OP is doing.

    Fixing standard keyswitches to a PCB.

    I think the dowels are just for alignment, I've never seen them staked.
    but I've only looked in about 10 different keyboards.

    Could be. Some experiments will be done when I have a board to play with.

    Seems like an application where the more mechanical strength /not/ using
    the electrical contacts the better...


    They are made with plastic pegs for mechanical fixing, I'm just punting
    for a tool to "fix" them. More d-i-y than mass production, but a large
    number to do and I want them to be reliable.

    The plastic properties are unknown, but inspection suggests "melting" them >> is the standard method. Screws aren't an option.

    But yeah if they are stakable then the switch datasheet should have
    the needed details (temperature and force needed)

    Optimist :)


    Cherry's datasheets don't even have pad and hole drawings, Kailh's datasheet doesn't mention staking.

    Quite.

    --
    Ian

    "Tamahome!!!" - "Miaka!!!"

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.6
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)