• New Idea for RST pool

    From Sawfish@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 03, 2026 10:47:31
    In addition to choosing the finals winners for the majors, how about this?

    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    What do you think, fellow-sufferers?

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  • From TT@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 04, 2026 06:53:57
    Sawfish kirjoitti 3.1.2026 klo 20.47:
    In addition to choosing the finals winners for the majors, how about this?

    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    What do you think, fellow-sufferers?


    Oil? Surely it's all about drugs & Maduro being a bad guy...

    Nothing to do with Venezuela's oil reserves & heavy crude US needs for
    its oil refineries but doesn't have. Also nothing to do with China.
    Definitely nothing to do with oil & China.

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  • From TT@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 04, 2026 18:15:16
    Sawfish kirjoitti 3.1.2026 klo 20.47:
    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    This century? Not sure about the decade though.


    Funny thing, browsing through (mostly Finnish) Twitter and even with
    this thing there's now clear left-right divide...

    LEFT: Trump is breaking international laws by attacking Venezuela. Bad!
    RIGHT: Trump took a dictator out. Good!

    I don't agree with either camp really, it's not that black & white. Imo
    it's good that they took the dictator out and don't care about "breaking international law" to dot it, it can't be done other way... but at the
    same time I feel it's completely dishonest to claim that US is here
    helping anyone but themselves.

    US did this for heavy crude AND most of all petrodollar. Venezuela has
    been trying to join BRICS which would be detrimental to petrodollar.
    Some mention gold as well, and of course Chinese influence & trade with Venezuela.

    So, I guess stock markets would go down on Monday because of
    uncertainty? Or up because of strong US & short conflict with no effect outside Venezuela & oil? ...Ummm... probably up. Asia, uncertain.

    Oil would go...ummm... up short term?

    US dollar... up?

    Interest rates... not sure.

    Gold up because of global uncertainty.

    Exxon, Chevron UP!

    Anyway, I've decided trying not to do anything with my equities
    portfolio this year. And for Pelle who recently thought that one
    shouldn't invest in Finnish stocks... well, it's up like 20% since then
    and the Helsinki 25 index which is my largest position was up 38% in
    2025! Goddamn!

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  • From TT@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 04, 2026 18:35:54
    *skriptis kirjoitti 4.1.2026 klo 18.28:
    TT <TT@dprk.kp> Wrote in message:r
    Sawfish kirjoitti 3.1.2026 klo 20.47:> On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields, > the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the > Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this > will happen.This century? Not sure about the decade though.Funny thing, browsing through (mostly Finnish) Twitter and even with this thing there's now clear left-right divide...LEFT: Trump is breaking international laws by attacking Venezuela. Bad!RIGHT: Trump took a dictator out. Good!I don't agree with either camp really, it's not that black & white. Imo it's good that they took the dictator out and don't care about "breaking international law" to dot it, it can't be done other way... but at the same time I feel it's completely dishonest to claim that US is here helping anyone but themselves.US did this for heavy crude AND most of all petrodollar. Venezuela has been trying to join BRICS which would be detrimental to petrodollar. Some mention gold as well, and of course Chinese influence & trade with Venezuela.So, I guess stock markets would go down on Monday because of uncertainty? Or up because of strong US & short conflict with no effect outside Venezuela & oil? ...Ummm... probably up. Asia, uncertain.Oil would go...ummm... up short term?US dollar... up?Interest rates... not sure.Gold up because of global uncertainty.Exxon, Chevron UP!Anyway, I've decided trying not to do anything with my equities portfolio this year. And for Pelle who recently thought that one shouldn't invest in Finnish stocks... well, it's up like 20% since then and the Helsinki 25 index which is my largest position was up 38% in 2025! Goddamn!




    Stupid as usual.

    Maduro is not a dictator.
    This is why we come to RST.


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  • From TT@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 04, 2026 19:43:53
    Pelle Svansl”s kirjoitti 4.1.2026 klo 19.17:
    On 4.1.2026 18.15, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 3.1.2026 klo 20.47:
    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    This century? Not sure about the decade though.


    Funny thing, browsing through (mostly Finnish) Twitter and even with
    this thing there's now clear left-right divide...

    If there ever was time wasted, this is pretty much it.

    I'm not a X customer. I have only an inkling about what's been talked
    about. Only what I've gathered from the MSM in one article. "Yawn", said
    Mr Pelle.


    So as usual, you know nothing.

    It looks like it's the usual suspects trying to cash in on this. Trying
    to turn Venezuela into a local left/right debate. Which it of course
    isn't. You gotta be a moron to fall into this hole. But there you are.



    It's not local, it's global. Same divide all over the world.


    LEFT: Trump is breaking international laws by attacking Venezuela. Bad!

    You can take the "LEFT" out of it. That's of course the case.


    The argument from left is: you can't attack dictators, it's illegal.
    That's missing the point.

    RIGHT: Trump took a dictator out. Good!

    It's not really Trump's business to take people out. The most perplexing thing of them all is that it seems to be the business of the average
    PerSu Joe in little Fingolia.


    Love it when you get racist.

    What will these chumps say after Gr”nland? Will they pull ...
    "international law"?


    How original...

    And for Pelle who recently thought that one shouldn't invest in
    Finnish stocks... well, it's up like 20% since then and the Helsinki
    25 index which is my largest position was up 38% in 2025! Goddamn!

    You're slow. I did exempt short term. Part of the "short term" had
    already happened! Lol.


    Nah, you simply don't understand anything about the stock market.

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  • From Sawfish@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 04, 2026 10:29:20
    On 1/4/26 8:15 AM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 3.1.2026 klo 20.47:
    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    This century? Not sure about the decade though.


    Funny thing, browsing through (mostly Finnish) Twitter and even with
    this thing there's now clear left-right divide...

    LEFT: Trump is breaking international laws by attacking Venezuela. Bad! RIGHT: Trump took a dictator out. Good!

    I don't agree with either camp really, it's not that black & white. Imo
    it's good that they took the dictator out and don't care about "breaking international law" to dot it, it can't be done other way... but at the
    same time I feel it's completely dishonest to claim that US is here
    helping anyone but themselves.

    Good and bad don't enter into human transactions at this scale. It's
    national benefit, however this might be defined.

    If anyone actually believes that any nation is interested in the form of government of another nation so that these foreign populations can have
    more individual freedom, they have just admitted to believing in Santa
    Claus.


    US did this for heavy crude AND most of all petrodollar. Venezuela has
    been trying to join BRICS which would be detrimental to petrodollar.
    Some mention gold as well, and of course Chinese influence & trade with Venezuela.

    So, I guess stock markets would go down on Monday because of
    uncertainty? Or up because of strong US & short conflict with no effect outside Venezuela & oil? ...Ummm... probably up. Asia, uncertain.

    Oil would go...ummm... up short term?

    You mean spot price? It'll go down at some point, it seems.


    US dollar... up?

    Interest rates... not sure.

    Gold up because of global uncertainty.

    Exxon, Chevron UP!

    Anyway, I've decided trying not to do anything with my equities
    portfolio this year. And for Pelle who recently thought that one
    shouldn't invest in Finnish stocks... well, it's up like 20% since then
    and the Helsinki 25 index which is my largest position was up 38% in
    2025! Goddamn!


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  • From TT@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 04, 2026 21:30:06
    Sawfish kirjoitti 4.1.2026 klo 20.29:
    On 1/4/26 8:15 AM, TT wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 3.1.2026 klo 20.47:
    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    This century? Not sure about the decade though.


    Funny thing, browsing through (mostly Finnish) Twitter and even with
    this thing there's now clear left-right divide...

    LEFT: Trump is breaking international laws by attacking Venezuela. Bad!
    RIGHT: Trump took a dictator out. Good!

    I don't agree with either camp really, it's not that black & white.
    Imo it's good that they took the dictator out and don't care about
    "breaking international law" to dot it, it can't be done other way...
    but at the same time I feel it's completely dishonest to claim that US
    is here helping anyone but themselves.

    Good and bad don't enter into human transactions at this scale. It's national benefit, however this might be defined.

    If anyone actually believes that any nation is interested in the form of government of another nation so that these foreign populations can have
    more individual freedom, they have just admitted to believing in Santa Claus.


    I was about to say that many European politicians seem to be interested
    in other nations & being "good"... but it's probably not that... they
    are virtue signalling for the brainwashed voters, making financial gain
    etc, making themselves profit one way or another. So they actually put
    their own profit over good of the country.

    Oil would go...ummm... up short term?

    You mean spot price? It'll go down at some point, it seems.


    You're probably right. Haven't looked at futures but if we think that Venezuela already had oil bans in place this may not cause much of
    disruption in short term.

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  • From bmoore@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 05, 2026 16:27:59
    In article <10jcrp5$1osao$2@dont-email.me>, TT <TT@dprk.kp> wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 3.1.2026 klo 20.47:
    In addition to choosing the finals winners for the majors, how about this? >>
    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    What do you think, fellow-sufferers?


    Oil? Surely it's all about drugs & Maduro being a bad guy...

    Nothing to do with Venezuela's oil reserves & heavy crude US needs for
    its oil refineries but doesn't have. Also nothing to do with China. >Definitely nothing to do with oil & China.

    haha


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  • From bmoore@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 05, 2026 16:31:59
    In article <10jcrp5$1osao$2@dont-email.me>, TT <TT@dprk.kp> wrote:
    Sawfish kirjoitti 3.1.2026 klo 20.47:
    In addition to choosing the finals winners for the majors, how about this? >>
    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    What do you think, fellow-sufferers?


    Oil? Surely it's all about drugs & Maduro being a bad guy...

    Nothing to do with Venezuela's oil reserves & heavy crude US needs for
    its oil refineries but doesn't have. Also nothing to do with China. >Definitely nothing to do with oil & China.

    Back during Bush I and II, they denied that Iraq was about the oil, though of course it was. Now Trump just says it outright about Venezuela.


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  • From Sawfish@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 05, 2026 09:00:55
    On 1/5/26 8:51 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
    Back during Bush I and II, they denied that Iraq was about the oil, though of course it was. Now Trump just says it outright about Venezuela.



    That's why people like him.



    Yes, it is.

    Or dislike him. Depends on how much you value a frank answer. Whether it
    is an honest answer depends on the circumstances, and in this case I
    think it's honest.

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  • From Scall5@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 05, 2026 21:51:42
    On 1/5/2026 11:00 AM, Sawfish wrote:
    On 1/5/26 8:51 AM, *skriptis wrote:
    bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) Wrote in message:
    Back during Bush I and II, they denied that Iraq was about the oil,
    though of course it was. Now Trump just says it outright about
    Venezuela.



    That's why people like him.



    Yes, it is.

    Or dislike him. Depends on how much you value a frank answer. Whether it
    is an honest answer depends on the circumstances, and in this case I
    think it's honest.

    I couldn't have phrased this any better.
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  • From Scall5@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 05, 2026 22:04:49
    On 1/3/2026 12:47 PM, Sawfish wrote:
    In addition to choosing the finals winners for the majors, how about this?

    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    What do you think, fellow-sufferers?


    Not long, politically speaking. This nation is now way to pussified to
    stomach any type of conflict with body bags coming home.
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  • From Sawfish@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 05, 2026 20:36:08
    On 1/5/26 8:04 PM, Scall5 wrote:
    On 1/3/2026 12:47 PM, Sawfish wrote:
    In addition to choosing the finals winners for the majors, how about
    this?

    On what date will the US return control of the Venezuelan oil fields,
    the largest proven reserves, larger than Saudi Arabia, to the
    Venezuelans? Be sure to specify day of month, in which century, this
    will happen.

    What do you think, fellow-sufferers?


    Not long, politically speaking. This nation is now way to pussified to stomach any type of conflict with body bags coming home.

    Yep, this seems to be an unusual US-backed coup, in that we left no core military force there to seize/hold key installations.

    In a way they blew the rudder off of one of those cigarette boats
    they've been blasting out of the water with Hellfire missiles the last
    few months.

    But the analogy breaks down because Maduro wasn't much of a rudder, and Venezuela's not much of a boat.

    It really could go pretty bad down there. We'll have to see.

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