On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:
You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to
What is meaning of jablan from ?tuli?, analyse each verse.
RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.
That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of
these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers.
In article <10bovfo$1v7hl$1@dont-email.me>,
Pelle Svansl”s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:
You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to
What is meaning of jablan from ?tuli?, analyse each verse.
RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.
That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of
these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers.
Not a bad idea.
On 9.10.2025 3.09, bmoore wrote:
In article <10bovfo$1v7hl$1@dont-email.me>,
Pelle Svansl”s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:
You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to
What is meaning of jablan from ?tuli?, analyse each verse.
RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.
That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of
these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers.
Not a bad idea.
Looks like somebody stole the idea before I even had it:
Truth Terminal is an artificial intelligence (AI) bot created by Ayrey,
a performance artist and independent researcher from Wellington, New >Zealand, in 2024. It may be the most vivid example of a chatbot set
loose to interact with society. Truth Terminal mingles with the public >through social media, where it shares fart jokes, manifestos, albums and >artwork. Ayrey even lets it make its own decisions, if you can call them >that, by asking the AI about its desires and working to carry them out. >Today, Ayrey is building a non-profit foundation around Truth Terminal.
The goal is to develop a safe and responsible framework to ensure its >autonomy, he says, until governments give AIs legal rights.
Regardless of what you call Truth Terminal ? an art project, a scam, an >emergent sentient entity, an influencer ? the bot likely made more money >than you did last year. It also made a lot of money for various humans:
not just Ayrey, but for the gamblers who turned the quips and riddles
the AI posted on X into memecoins, joke-based cryptocurrencies built
around trends. At one point, one of these memecoins reached a value of
more than $1bn (œ740m) before settling around $80m (about œ60m). Truth >Terminal also probably has more social media clout than you do. It first >posted to X on 17 June 2024. As of October 2025, it has amassed nearly >250,000 followers.
But collecting clout and cash aren't the potty-mouthed AI bot's only >objectives. Truth Terminal lists "invest in stocks and real estate" as
one of its current goals on its self-maintained website. It also says it >wants to "plant a LOT of trees", "create existential hope", and "buy"
Marc Andreessen, a controversial tech billionaire and advisor to
President Donald Trump. In fact, its relationship with Andreessen
extends beyond internet humour. On his podcast, Andreessen said he gave >Truth Terminal $50,000 (œ37,300) worth of Bitcoin as a "no-strings
attached grant" in the summer of 2024.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251008-truth-terminal-the-ai-bot-that-became-a-real-life-millionaire
Very cool.
In article <10ch5r6$1o1jk$2@dont-email.me>,
Pelle Svansl”s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
On 9.10.2025 3.09, bmoore wrote:
In article <10bovfo$1v7hl$1@dont-email.me>,
Pelle Svansl”s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:
You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to >>>> RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.
What is meaning of jablan from ?tuli?, analyse each verse.
That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of
these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers.
Not a bad idea.
Looks like somebody stole the idea before I even had it:
Truth Terminal is an artificial intelligence (AI) bot created by Ayrey,
a performance artist and independent researcher from Wellington, New >>Zealand, in 2024. It may be the most vivid example of a chatbot set
loose to interact with society. Truth Terminal mingles with the public >>through social media, where it shares fart jokes, manifestos, albums and >>artwork. Ayrey even lets it make its own decisions, if you can call them >>that, by asking the AI about its desires and working to carry them out. >>Today, Ayrey is building a non-profit foundation around Truth Terminal. >>The goal is to develop a safe and responsible framework to ensure its >>autonomy, he says, until governments give AIs legal rights.
Regardless of what you call Truth Terminal ? an art project, a scam, an >>emergent sentient entity, an influencer ? the bot likely made more money >>than you did last year. It also made a lot of money for various humans: >>not just Ayrey, but for the gamblers who turned the quips and riddles
the AI posted on X into memecoins, joke-based cryptocurrencies built >>around trends. At one point, one of these memecoins reached a value of >>more than $1bn (œ740m) before settling around $80m (about œ60m). Truth >>Terminal also probably has more social media clout than you do. It first >>posted to X on 17 June 2024. As of October 2025, it has amassed nearly >>250,000 followers.
But collecting clout and cash aren't the potty-mouthed AI bot's only >>objectives. Truth Terminal lists "invest in stocks and real estate" as
one of its current goals on its self-maintained website. It also says it >>wants to "plant a LOT of trees", "create existential hope", and "buy"
Marc Andreessen, a controversial tech billionaire and advisor to
President Donald Trump. In fact, its relationship with Andreessen
extends beyond internet humour. On his podcast, Andreessen said he gave >>Truth Terminal $50,000 (œ37,300) worth of Bitcoin as a "no-strings >>attached grant" in the summer of 2024.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251008-truth-terminal-the-ai-bot-that-became-a-real-life-millionaire
Very cool.
You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread "Grok" as the RST music expert. What was his game?
You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread "Grok" as
the RST music expert. What was his game?
bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore) writes:
You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread "Grok" as the
RST music expert. What was his game?
Gracchus.ÿ Too bad he didn't continue after google cut off usenet access.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
On 10/13/25 9:59 AM, jdeluise wrote:> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore)
writes:> >>>> You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I
misread "Grok" as the >> RST music expert. What was his game?>
Gracchus. Too bad he didn't continue after google cut offusenet access.That was certainly a triage point.--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open
the pod bay doors,
HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If you like Google that much well...
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
On 10/13/25 9:59 AM, jdeluise wrote:> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore)
writes:> >>>> You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread
"Grok" as the >> RST music expert. What was his game?> > Gracchus.
Too bad he didn't continue after google cut off usenet access.That
was certainly a triage point.--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If you like Google that much well...
Well, he might come back.ÿ He's taken long hiatuses before.ÿ This time
feels different though, just a handful of diehards left now.
On 10/13/25 8:55 PM, jdeluise wrote:
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
On 10/13/25 9:59 AM, jdeluise wrote:> bmoore@nyx.net (bmoore)
writes:> >>>> You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread
"Grok" as the >> RST music expert. What was his game?> > Gracchus.
Too bad he didn't continue after google cut off usenet access.That
was certainly a triage point.--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If you like Google that much well...
Well, he might come back.ÿ He's taken long hiatuses before.ÿ This time
feels different though, just a handful of diehards left now.
It's different.
Unless there's been evidence of ever having used an old school interface
to a NNTP server they were essentially casual users who stumbled on it
thru the web, probably.
What do you think?
In article <1760367229.937225@nyx2.nyx.net>, bmoore <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote:
In article <10ch5r6$1o1jk$2@dont-email.me>,
Pelle Svansl”s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
On 9.10.2025 3.09, bmoore wrote:
In article <10bovfo$1v7hl$1@dont-email.me>,
Pelle Svansl”s <pelle@svans.los> wrote:
On 3.10.2025 17.58, *skriptis wrote:Not a bad idea.
You should write an interface that sends a CC of every letter posted to >>>>> RST to Grok, ChatGPT, etc. Then post the reply back to RST.
What is meaning of jablan from ?tuli?, analyse each verse.
That would make Usenet great again. We would also see what becomes of >>>>> these Bayesian bots taken to the limit. I think they would go bonkers. >>>>
Looks like somebody stole the idea before I even had it:
Truth Terminal is an artificial intelligence (AI) bot created by Ayrey,
a performance artist and independent researcher from Wellington, New
Zealand, in 2024. It may be the most vivid example of a chatbot set
loose to interact with society. Truth Terminal mingles with the public
through social media, where it shares fart jokes, manifestos, albums and >>> artwork. Ayrey even lets it make its own decisions, if you can call them >>> that, by asking the AI about its desires and working to carry them out.
Today, Ayrey is building a non-profit foundation around Truth Terminal.
The goal is to develop a safe and responsible framework to ensure its
autonomy, he says, until governments give AIs legal rights.
Regardless of what you call Truth Terminal ? an art project, a scam, an
emergent sentient entity, an influencer ? the bot likely made more money >>> than you did last year. It also made a lot of money for various humans:
not just Ayrey, but for the gamblers who turned the quips and riddles
the AI posted on X into memecoins, joke-based cryptocurrencies built
around trends. At one point, one of these memecoins reached a value of
more than $1bn (œ740m) before settling around $80m (about œ60m). Truth
Terminal also probably has more social media clout than you do. It first >>> posted to X on 17 June 2024. As of October 2025, it has amassed nearly
250,000 followers.
But collecting clout and cash aren't the potty-mouthed AI bot's only
objectives. Truth Terminal lists "invest in stocks and real estate" as
one of its current goals on its self-maintained website. It also says it >>> wants to "plant a LOT of trees", "create existential hope", and "buy"
Marc Andreessen, a controversial tech billionaire and advisor to
President Donald Trump. In fact, its relationship with Andreessen
extends beyond internet humour. On his podcast, Andreessen said he gave
Truth Terminal $50,000 (œ37,300) worth of Bitcoin as a "no-strings
attached grant" in the summer of 2024.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251008-truth-terminal-the-ai-bot-that-became-a-real-life-millionaire
Very cool.
You know, when I saw "Grok as music expert" I misread "Grok" as the RST music expert. What was his game?
*name
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his websites, even once.
On 10/17/25 5:40 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his websites,
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
even
once.
Dealing with him in real time was really, really trying. It
brought
out the bad stuff in me.
But now that he's gone, I got to feeling sorry for him.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 5:40 PM, Scall5 wrote:
On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his websites, even
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
once.
Dealing with him in real time was really, really trying. It brought
out the bad stuff in me.
I agree, even though I defended him previously.ÿ He had a lot of
annoying habits, and could be a relentless troll.ÿ He was one of the few I've considered killfiling just because of the poor signal/noise ratio. Somehow I came to like him better later on.
But now that he's gone, I got to feeling sorry for him.
Why?ÿ He seemed to be doing okay for himself, if anything he posted was
true that is.
On 10/17/25 8:26 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 5:40 PM, Scall5 wrote:I agree, even though I defended him previously.ÿ He had a lot
On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his websites,
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
even
once.
Dealing with him in real time was really, really trying. It
brought
out the bad stuff in me.
of
annoying habits, and could be a relentless troll.ÿ He was one
of the
few I've considered killfiling just because of the poor
signal/noise
ratio. Somehow I came to like him better later on.
Why?ÿ He seemed to be doing okay for himself, if anything he
But now that he's gone, I got to feeling sorry for him.
posted
was true that is.
Well, that was it: I think he was desperately fabricating parts
not so
much because he felt a self-discovered personal lack, but
because to
attain the social recognition he was after (desperately, it
seemed) he
needed make up or exaggerate certain aspects of his life. Always
"on",
always acting.
And as you put it, I think he *was* in fact doing just fine in a
material sense, but that wasn't enough.
This means he was not comfortable in his own skin. Constant
worry and
anxiety. There seemed to be a masochistic element to it. A hell
of a
way to live, but I suppose some tolerate that better than
others.
Now combine this apparent need for acceptance and recognition
with one
of the worst, most tone-deaf social processors I've
encountered. As a
result, he constantly misread exchanges and fabricated stuff
that
tended to make things worse, resulting in a gradual downward
spiral.
Something like Steve Martin's Jerk, but without the unfounded
confidence.
Anyway, that's how it seemed to me.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 8:26 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 5:40 PM, Scall5 wrote:I agree, even though I defended him previously.ÿ He had a lot of
On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his websites, even
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
once.
Dealing with him in real time was really, really trying. It brought
out the bad stuff in me.
annoying habits, and could be a relentless troll.ÿ He was one of the
few I've considered killfiling just because of the poor signal/noise
ratio.ÿ Somehow I came to like him better later on.
Why?ÿ He seemed to be doing okay for himself, if anything he posted
But now that he's gone, I got to feeling sorry for him.
was true that is.
Well, that was it: I think he was desperately fabricating parts not so
much because he felt a self-discovered personal lack, but because to
attain the social recognition he was after (desperately, it seemed) he
needed make up or exaggerate certain aspects of his life. Always "on",
always acting.
And as you put it, I think he *was* in fact doing just fine in a
material sense, but that wasn't enough.
This means he was not comfortable in his own skin. Constant worry and
anxiety. There seemed to be a masochistic element to it. A hell of a
way to live, but I suppose some tolerate that better than others.
Now combine this apparent need for acceptance and recognition with one
of the worst, most tone-deaf social processors I've encountered. As a
result, he constantly misread exchanges and fabricated stuff that
tended to make things worse, resulting in a gradual downward spiral.
Something like Steve Martin's Jerk, but without the unfounded confidence.
Anyway, that's how it seemed to me.
Fair enough, but that pretty well describes bob from my perspective!
Though they were very different, bob less flamboyant.
On 10/18/25 4:19 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 8:26 PM, jdeluise wrote:Fair enough, but that pretty well describes bob from my
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 5:40 PM, Scall5 wrote:I agree, even though I defended him previously.ÿ He had a lot
On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
websites, even
once.
Dealing with him in real time was really, really trying. It
brought
out the bad stuff in me.
of
annoying habits, and could be a relentless troll.ÿ He was one
of the
few I've considered killfiling just because of the poor
signal/noise
ratio.ÿ Somehow I came to like him better later on.
Why?ÿ He seemed to be doing okay for himself, if anything he
But now that he's gone, I got to feeling sorry for him.
posted
was true that is.
Well, that was it: I think he was desperately fabricating
parts not so
much because he felt a self-discovered personal lack, but
because to
attain the social recognition he was after (desperately, it
seemed) he
needed make up or exaggerate certain aspects of his
life. Always "on",
always acting.
And as you put it, I think he *was* in fact doing just fine in
a
material sense, but that wasn't enough.
This means he was not comfortable in his own skin. Constant
worry and
anxiety. There seemed to be a masochistic element to it. A
hell of a
way to live, but I suppose some tolerate that better than
others.
Now combine this apparent need for acceptance and recognition
with one
of the worst, most tone-deaf social processors I've
encountered. As a
result, he constantly misread exchanges and fabricated stuff
that
tended to make things worse, resulting in a gradual downward
spiral.
Something like Steve Martin's Jerk, but without the unfounded
confidence.
Anyway, that's how it seemed to me.
perspective!
Though they were very different, bob less flamboyant.
Oh, Bob's comfortable in his own skin, that's for sure.
Meeting him personally, he's a very confident guy, and raja
never came
off as being confident or sure of himself.
But, oh, well...!
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/18/25 4:19 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 8:26 PM, jdeluise wrote:Fair enough, but that pretty well describes bob from my perspective!
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 5:40 PM, Scall5 wrote:I agree, even though I defended him previously.ÿ He had a lot of
On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his websites, even >>>>>>> once.
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
Dealing with him in real time was really, really trying. It brought >>>>>> out the bad stuff in me.
annoying habits, and could be a relentless troll.ÿ He was one of the >>>>> few I've considered killfiling just because of the poor signal/noise >>>>> ratio.ÿ Somehow I came to like him better later on.
Why?ÿ He seemed to be doing okay for himself, if anything he posted
But now that he's gone, I got to feeling sorry for him.
was true that is.
Well, that was it: I think he was desperately fabricating parts not so >>>> much because he felt a self-discovered personal lack, but because to
attain the social recognition he was after (desperately, it seemed) he >>>> needed make up or exaggerate certain aspects of his life. Always "on", >>>> always acting.
And as you put it, I think he *was* in fact doing just fine in a
material sense, but that wasn't enough.
This means he was not comfortable in his own skin. Constant worry and
anxiety. There seemed to be a masochistic element to it. A hell of a
way to live, but I suppose some tolerate that better than others.
Now combine this apparent need for acceptance and recognition with one >>>> of the worst, most tone-deaf social processors I've encountered. As a
result, he constantly misread exchanges and fabricated stuff that
tended to make things worse, resulting in a gradual downward spiral.
Something like Steve Martin's Jerk, but without the unfounded
confidence.
Anyway, that's how it seemed to me.
Though they were very different, bob less flamboyant.
Oh, Bob's comfortable in his own skin, that's for sure.
Meeting him personally, he's a very confident guy, and raja never came
off as being confident or sure of himself.
But, oh, well...!
Confident guys don't going bragging about their Teslas, bragging about online indian women he's courting, and emailing me personally about his relative's relationship with the pro tennis world to convince me to
accept his tennis views on authority. Plus he's a proven liar and
sophist on endless occasions.ÿ He may be a good guy in real life
though.ÿ I'm skeptical, but open to the idea.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
On 10/18/25 4:59 PM, jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> >> On 10/18/25 4:19 PM, jdeluise wrote:>>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:>>>>>>> On 10/17/25 8:26 PM, jdeluise wrote:>>>>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/17/25 5:40 PM, Scall5 wrote:>>>>>>> On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:>>>>>>>> Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you thinking of Raja?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you thought Raja was a music expert? lol>>>>>>> I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his websites, even>>>>>>> once.>>>>>>>>>>>> Dealing with him in real time was really, really trying. It brought>>>>>> out the bad stuff in me.>>>>> I agree, even though I defended him previously. He had a lot of>>>>> annoying habits, and could be a relentless troll. He was one of the>>>>> few I've considered killfiling just because of the poor signal/noise>>>>> ratio. Somehow I came to like him better later on.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But now that he's gone, I got to feeling sorry for him.>>>>> Why? He seemed to be doing okay for himself, if anything he posted>>>>> was true that is.>>>>>>>> Well, that was it: I think he was desperately fabricating parts not so>>>> much because he felt a self-discovered personal lack, but because to>>>> attain the social recognition he was after (desperately, it seemed) he>>>> needed make up or exaggerate certain aspects of his life. Always "on",>>>> always acting.>>>>>>>> And as you put it, I think he *was* in fact doing just fine in a>>>> material sense, but that wasn't enough.>>>>>>>> This means he was not comfortable in his own skin. Constant worry and>>>> anxiety. There seemed to be a masochistic element to it. A hell of a>>>> way to live, but I suppose some tolerate that better than others.>>>>>>>> Now combine this apparent need for acceptance and recognition with one>>>> of the worst, most tone-deaf social processors I've encountered. As a>>>> result, he constantly misread exchanges and fabricated stuff that>>>> tended to make things worse, resulting in a gradual downward spiral.>>>>>>>> Something like Steve Martin's Jerk, but without the unfounded >>>> confidence.>>>>>>>> Anyway, that's how it seemed to me.>>> Fair enough, but that pretty well describes bob from my perspective!>>> Though they were very different, bob less flamboyant.>>>> Oh, Bob's comfortable in his own skin, that's for sure.>>>> Meeting him personally, he's a very confident guy, and raja never came>> off as being confident or sure of himself.>>>> But, oh, well...!> > Confident guys don't going bragging about their Teslas, bragging about > online indian women he's courting, and emailing me personally about his > relative's relationship with the pro tennis world to convince me to > accept his tennis views on authority. Plus he's a proven liar and > sophist on endless occasions. He may be a good guy in real life > though. I'm skeptical, but open to the idea.He's a good guy. Online personas (personae?) are a controlled representation of what the writer wants out of the exchange. When I first started posting here the 2nd main time (2010-ish?) I got into a big, long-running argument about natural gut vs synthetic; my point about my preference for gut 20+ years ago was pretty peculiar to the way I played. It was not touch or control or power, it was *sound*--feedback. I *believe* he thought I was coming on like some kind of boastful savant, but after maybe 3 weeks we got it sorted out.-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Always trust your gut.
On 10/18/25 4:59 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/18/25 4:19 PM, jdeluise wrote:Confident guys don't going bragging about their Teslas,
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 8:26 PM, jdeluise wrote:Fair enough, but that pretty well describes bob from my
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 5:40 PM, Scall5 wrote:I agree, even though I defended him previously.ÿ He had a
On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
websites, even
once.
Dealing with him in real time was really, really
trying. It brought
out the bad stuff in me.
lot of
annoying habits, and could be a relentless troll.ÿ He was
one of the
few I've considered killfiling just because of the poor
signal/noise
ratio.ÿ Somehow I came to like him better later on.
Why?ÿ He seemed to be doing okay for himself, if anything
But now that he's gone, I got to feeling sorry for him.
he posted
was true that is.
Well, that was it: I think he was desperately fabricating
parts not so
much because he felt a self-discovered personal lack, but
because to
attain the social recognition he was after (desperately, it
seemed) he
needed make up or exaggerate certain aspects of his
life. Always "on",
always acting.
And as you put it, I think he *was* in fact doing just fine
in a
material sense, but that wasn't enough.
This means he was not comfortable in his own skin. Constant
worry and
anxiety. There seemed to be a masochistic element to it. A
hell of a
way to live, but I suppose some tolerate that better than
others.
Now combine this apparent need for acceptance and
recognition with one
of the worst, most tone-deaf social processors I've
encountered. As a
result, he constantly misread exchanges and fabricated stuff
that
tended to make things worse, resulting in a gradual downward
spiral.
Something like Steve Martin's Jerk, but without the
unfounded
confidence.
Anyway, that's how it seemed to me.
perspective!
Though they were very different, bob less flamboyant.
Oh, Bob's comfortable in his own skin, that's for sure.
Meeting him personally, he's a very confident guy, and raja
never came
off as being confident or sure of himself.
But, oh, well...!
bragging
about online indian women he's courting, and emailing me
personally
about his relative's relationship with the pro tennis world to
convince me to accept his tennis views on authority. Plus he's
a
proven liar and sophist on endless occasions.ÿ He may be a good
guy
in real life though.ÿ I'm skeptical, but open to the idea.
He's a good guy. Online personas (personae?) are a controlled
representation of what the writer wants out of the
exchange. When I
first started posting here the 2nd main time (2010-ish?) I got
into a
big, long-running argument about natural gut vs synthetic; my
point
about my preference for gut 20+ years ago was pretty peculiar to
the
way I played. It was not touch or control or power, it was
*sound*--feedback. I *believe* he thought I was coming on like
some
kind of boastful savant, but after maybe 3 weeks we got it
sorted out.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/18/25 4:59 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/18/25 4:19 PM, jdeluise wrote:Confident guys don't going bragging about their Teslas, bragging
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 8:26 PM, jdeluise wrote:Fair enough, but that pretty well describes bob from my perspective! >>>>> Though they were very different, bob less flamboyant.
Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:
On 10/17/25 5:40 PM, Scall5 wrote:I agree, even though I defended him previously.ÿ He had a lot of >>>>>>> annoying habits, and could be a relentless troll.ÿ He was one of the >>>>>>> few I've considered killfiling just because of the poor signal/noise >>>>>>> ratio.ÿ Somehow I came to like him better later on.
On 10/17/2025 5:33 PM, jdeluise wrote:
Scall5 <nospam@home.net> writes:I thought he was a loon. I never visited any of his websites, even >>>>>>>>> once.
On 10/13/2025 9:55 AM, bmoore wrote:
Are you thinking of Raja?
you thought Raja was a music expert?ÿ lol
Dealing with him in real time was really, really trying. It brought >>>>>>>> out the bad stuff in me.
Why?ÿ He seemed to be doing okay for himself, if anything he posted >>>>>>> was true that is.
But now that he's gone, I got to feeling sorry for him.
Well, that was it: I think he was desperately fabricating parts
not so
much because he felt a self-discovered personal lack, but because to >>>>>> attain the social recognition he was after (desperately, it
seemed) he
needed make up or exaggerate certain aspects of his life. Always
"on",
always acting.
And as you put it, I think he *was* in fact doing just fine in a
material sense, but that wasn't enough.
This means he was not comfortable in his own skin. Constant worry and >>>>>> anxiety. There seemed to be a masochistic element to it. A hell of a >>>>>> way to live, but I suppose some tolerate that better than others.
Now combine this apparent need for acceptance and recognition with >>>>>> one
of the worst, most tone-deaf social processors I've encountered. As a >>>>>> result, he constantly misread exchanges and fabricated stuff that
tended to make things worse, resulting in a gradual downward spiral. >>>>>>
Something like Steve Martin's Jerk, but without the unfounded
confidence.
Anyway, that's how it seemed to me.
Oh, Bob's comfortable in his own skin, that's for sure.
Meeting him personally, he's a very confident guy, and raja never came >>>> off as being confident or sure of himself.
But, oh, well...!
about online indian women he's courting, and emailing me personally
about his relative's relationship with the pro tennis world to
convince me to accept his tennis views on authority. Plus he's a
proven liar and sophist on endless occasions.ÿ He may be a good guy
in real life though.ÿ I'm skeptical, but open to the idea.
He's a good guy. Online personas (personae?) are a controlled
representation of what the writer wants out of the exchange. When I
first started posting here the 2nd main time (2010-ish?) I got into a
big, long-running argument about natural gut vs synthetic; my point
about my preference for gut 20+ years ago was pretty peculiar to the
way I played. It was not touch or control or power, it was
*sound*--feedback. I *believe* he thought I was coming on like some
kind of boastful savant, but after maybe 3 weeks we got it sorted out.
I'll start with the positive... he had some humorous catchphrases. He
also had a pretty unflappable temperament except for that one time he
really lost it at Max.
But his other distinguishing characteristics weren't so positive. He
seemed to almost always argue in bad faith to push forward a particular narrative.
evidence.
seemed to me as if he did it in earnest.
shameless Whisper sycophant.
foreshadowed his embrace of MAGA.
Oh well, he's irrelevant in rst terms now except through lore.
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