• Sab-ah-TAH-gee!

    From =?UTF-8?Q?Pelle_Svansl=C3=B6s?=@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, September 25, 2025 20:18:04
    From: pelle@svans.los

    A REAL DISGRACE took place at the United Nations yesterday — Not one,
    not two, but three very sinister events! First, the escalator going up
    to the Main Speaking Floor came to a screeching halt. It stopped on a
    dime. It’s amazing that Melania and I didn’t fall forward onto the sharp edges of these steel steps, face first. It was only that we were each
    holding the handrail tightly or, it would have been a disaster. This was absolutely sabotage, as noted by a day’s earlier “post” in The London Times that said UN workers “joked about turning off an escalator.” The people that did it should be arrested! Then, as I stood before a
    Television crowd of millions of people all over the World, and important Leaders in the Hall, my teleprompter didn’t work. It was stone cold
    dark. I immediately thought to myself, “Wow, first the escalator event,
    and now a bad teleprompter. What kind of a place is this?” I then
    proceeded to make a Speech without a teleprompter, which kicked in about
    15 minutes later. The good news is the Speech has gotten fantastic
    reviews. Maybe they appreciated the fact that very few people could have
    done what I did. And third, after making the Speech, I was told that the
    sound was completely off in the Auditorium where the Speech was made,
    that World Leaders, unless they used the interpreters’ earpieces,
    couldn’t hear a thing. The first person I saw at the conclusion of the
    Speech was Melania, who was sitting right up front. I said, “How did I
    do?” And she said, “I couldn’t hear a word you said.” This wasn’t a coincidence, this was triple sabotage at the UN. They ought to be
    ashamed of themselves. I’m sending a copy of this letter to the
    Secretary General, and I demand an immediate investigation. No wonder
    the United Nations hasn’t been able to do the job that they were put in existence to do. All security tapes at the escalator should be saved, especially the emergency stop button. The Secret Service is involved.
    Thank you for your attention to this matter!

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115261466629181518

    If you made it to the end, congrats. Donald has too much time on his
    small hands.

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  • From Scall5@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, September 25, 2025 19:08:02
    From: nospam@home.net

    On 9/25/2025 12:18 PM, Pelle Svanslös wrote:
    A REAL DISGRACE took place at the United Nations yesterday — Not one,
    not two, but three very sinister events! First, the escalator going up
    to the Main Speaking Floor came to a screeching halt. It stopped on a
    dime. It’s amazing that Melania and I didn’t fall forward onto the sharp edges of these steel steps, face first. It was only that we were each
    holding the handrail tightly or, it would have been a disaster. This was absolutely sabotage, as noted by a day’s earlier “post” in The London Times that said UN workers “joked about turning off an escalator.” The people that did it should be arrested! Then, as I stood before a
    Television crowd of millions of people all over the World, and important Leaders in the Hall, my teleprompter didn’t work. It was stone cold
    dark. I immediately thought to myself, “Wow, first the escalator event,
    and now a bad teleprompter. What kind of a place is this?” I then
    proceeded to make a Speech without a teleprompter, which kicked in about
    15 minutes later. The good news is the Speech has gotten fantastic
    reviews. Maybe they appreciated the fact that very few people could have
    done what I did. And third, after making the Speech, I was told that the sound was completely off in the Auditorium where the Speech was made,
    that World Leaders, unless they used the interpreters’ earpieces, couldn’t hear a thing. The first person I saw at the conclusion of the Speech was Melania, who was sitting right up front. I said, “How did I do?” And she said, “I couldn’t hear a word you said.” This wasn’t a coincidence, this was triple sabotage at the UN. They ought to be
    ashamed of themselves. I’m sending a copy of this letter to the
    Secretary General, and I demand an immediate investigation. No wonder
    the United Nations hasn’t been able to do the job that they were put in existence to do. All security tapes at the escalator should be saved, especially the emergency stop button. The Secret Service is involved.
    Thank you for your attention to this matter!

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115261466629181518

    If you made it to the end, congrats. Donald has too much time on his
    small hands.


    You got to give it to Trump, he does have brass balls.
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  • From *skriptis@3:633/10 to Sawfish on Friday, September 26, 2025 06:38:09
    From: skriptis@post.t-com.hr

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> > >>>> The country is being run by an unashamedly authoritarian masculine>> leadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a similarly forceful leader.
    WRT hands, have you ever seen Xi's?>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> Napoleon complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's masculine... presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, emotional neediness, and
    pathological vanity. The > whininess alone is a disqualifier for me. But hey, you're entitled to > your opinion!So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly authoritarian masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go back to Andrew Jackson to
    seea similarly forceful leader."sounded too much like praise, j?So you are saying we're *not* being run by "an unashamedly authoritarian masculine leadership cadre"?-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open the
    pod bay doors, HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



    I think this is a good read for you.


    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/


    Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established himself as a woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we like him not what he's saying but for what he is, and we don't really pay attention to what he's saying?



    Maybe a Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?


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  • From *skriptis@3:633/10 to jdeluise on Friday, September 26, 2025 09:17:47
    From: skriptis@post.t-com.hr

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM, *skriptis wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish >>> <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> run by
    an unashamedly authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >>> similarly forceful leader.>>>> WRT hands, have you ever seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-
    jinping>>>> >>> Napoleon complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>> masculine... presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, >>> emotional neediness, and pathological vanity. The > whininess >>> alone is a disqualifier for me. But hey,
    you're entitled to > >>> your opinion!So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly >>> authoritarian masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back to Andrew Jackson to seea similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too much like praise, j?So
    you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by "an unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine leadership cadre"?-- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open >>> the pod bay doors, >>> HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> I think this is a good read for you.>> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/>> Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established>> himself as a
    woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we >> like>> him not what he's saying but for what he is, and we don't >> really pay>> attention to what he's saying?>> Maybe a Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I hadn't realized
    how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > are. Boy,> oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie Sanders, too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that someone smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us straight, huh?Makeup, hair
    transplants, girdles, shoulder pads... mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.




    This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this idea.

    I feel there's something in it.

    In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a macho persona is tainted by the era in which he lives.

    He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.

    So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is our world anymore.




    It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different spices and animals. If science were to recreate mammoth, clone it, they'd probably have to use bits of elephant genome or whatever so it wouldn't be a true mammoth from a bygone era,
    technically, but would be very very close to it.


    This is it.

    Trump is masculine no doubt in his views, resolve, forceful projection etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in feminine style, as you jdeluise note, make up, hair transplants, words often, etc so somewhat and partially, it's kinda feminine, and I
    do believe it's what makes or made him more visible, palpatable and relatable than for example Ted Cruz who seemed dull?

    Not commenting on politics at all.




    So the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We don't take him by his words. His fans don't care what he says, basically Trump's words are meaningless?

    He says so much and of course something has to contradict the other, but we don't care.

    If you like him, you like him.

    So yeah, he's like a woman to us.





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  • From *skriptis@3:633/10 to jdeluise on Friday, September 26, 2025 12:25:25
    From: skriptis@post.t-com.hr

    jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    *skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr> writes:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM, >> *skriptis wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in >> message:r>>> On 9/25/25 7:44 PM,
    jdeluise wrote:> Sawfish >>> >> <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> >> run by an unashamedly authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> >> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >> >>> similarly forceful
    leader.>>>> WRT hands, have you ever >> seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>> >> https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> >>> >> Napoleon complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>> >> masculine... presuming that includes chronic >
    indecisiveness, >> >>> emotional neediness, and pathological vanity. The > >> whininess >>> alone is a disqualifier for me. But hey, you're >> entitled to > >>> your opinion!So..."The country is being run >> by an unashamedly >>> authoritarian
    masculineleadership >> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back to Andrew Jackson to seea >> similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too much like praise, >> j?So you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by "an >> unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine
    leadership cadre"?-- >> >>> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open >> >>> the pod bay doors, >>> >> HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> >> I think this is a good
    read for you.>> >> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-214391/>> >> Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established>> >> himself as a woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we >> >> like>>
    him not what he's saying but for what he is, and we >> don't >> really pay>> attention to what he's saying?>> Maybe a >> Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I >> hadn't realized how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > >> are.
    Boy,> oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie >> Sanders, too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that >> someone smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us >> straight, huh?Makeup, hair transplants, girdles, shoulder >> pads...
    mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.>>>>> This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this idea.>> I feel there's something in it.>> In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a macho > persona is tainted by the era in which he lives.>
    He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.>> So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is our > world anymore.>>>>> It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different > spices and animals. If science were to recreate
    mammoth, clone > it, they'd probably have to use bits of elephant genome or > whatever so it wouldn't be a true mammoth from a bygone era, > technically, but would be very very close to it.>>> This is it.>> Trump is masculine no doubt in his views,
    resolve, forceful > projection etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in > feminine style, as you jdeluise note, make up, hair transplants, > words often, etc so somewhat and partially, it's kinda feminine, > and I do believe it's what makes or
    made him more visible, > palpatable and relatable than for example Ted Cruz who seemed > dull?>> Not commenting on politics at all. >>>>> So the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We > don't take him by his words. His fans don't care what
    he says, > basically Trump's words are meaningless?>> He says so much and of course something has to contradict the > other, but we don't care.>> If you like him, you like him.>> So yeah, he's like a woman to us.He's also catty and vindictive. This
    indictment of Comey for instance, I'd be shocked if it didn't get thrown out for vindictive prosecution. Mostly due to Trump's own post-menopausal ran.. I mean posts, and pleas to Bondi. Some of these other "mortgage fraud" cases he's brought are
    similarly fraught. Trump may not even care about winning them, he's just hissing and scratching. Normative manly behavior? Ya, I think not.




    But crushing your enemies is also very masculine.

    Showing mercy or building bridges after you have won, is one thing, but fighting is another.

    E.g. handshakes in men's game are often warmer and more cordial and women are bitches.


    https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/1hzidn3/qinwen_zheng_says_if_she_loses_she_wont_give_a_handshake


    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/international-sports/iga-witek-vs-victoria-azarenka-the-viral-frostbite-handshake-that-shocked-tennis-fans/articleshow/122107232.cms


    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/tennis/eugenie-bouchard-loses-after-refusing-to-shake-opponent-s-hand-1.3038945




    But men's cordial handshake and hugs all of that is after the war. Men fight hard.

    Trump is still in a war.


    This is very Sawfish is right.




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  • From *skriptis@3:633/10 to Sawfish on Saturday, September 27, 2025 00:49:33
    From: skriptis@post.t-com.hr

    Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r
    On 9/26/25 12:17 AM, *skriptis wrote:> jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> On 9/25/25 9:38 PM, *skriptis wrote:>> Sawfish <sawfish666@gmail.com> Wrote in message:r>>> On 9/25/25 7:44 PM, jdeluise
    wrote:> Sawfish >>> <sawfish666@gmail.com> writes:> > >>>> The country is being >>> run by an unashamedly authoritarian masculine>> leadership >>> cadre. Maybe we'd have to go back to Andrew Jackson to see>> a >>> similarly forceful leader.>>>> WRT hands,
    have you ever seen >>> Xi's?>>>> >>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/asia/gallery/xi-jinping>>>> >>> Napoleon complex, but with hand-size?> > I guess Trump's >>> masculine... presuming that includes chronic > indecisiveness, >>> emotional neediness, and
    pathological vanity. The > whininess >>> alone is a disqualifier for me. But hey, you're entitled to > >>> your opinion!So..."The country is being run by an unashamedly >>> authoritarian masculineleadership cadre. Maybe we'd have to go >>> back to
    Andrew Jackson to seea similarly forceful >>> leader."sounded too much like praise, j?So you are saying >>> we're *not* being run by "an unashamedly authoritarian >>> masculine leadership cadre"?-- >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open >>> the pod bay doors, >>> HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> I think this is a good read for you.>> https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/trump-feminine-speaking-style-
    214391/>> Basically if this is true it could mean Trump has established>> himself as a woman in our relationship to him, he talks but we >> like>> him not what he's saying but for what he is, and we don't >> really pay>> attention to what he's saying?>>
    Maybe a Pelle, expert on genders could say a word here?>> >> Huh.>> I hadn't realized how masculine Ted Cruz and Dennis Kusinich > are. Boy,> oh boy, was I ever wrong about them!!! Bernie Sanders, too!!!>> Thanks so much, skript! I'm sure glad that
    someone smart, like a > UC> professor, can definitively set us straight, huh?Makeup, hair transplants, girdles, shoulder pads... mmm, manly? Must be an Portland thing.> > > > > This is a funny topic but I for one do not dismiss this idea.> > I feel there'
    s something in it.> > In a world that's has been thoroughly feminised, even a macho persona is tainted by the era in which he lives.> > He has to, sort of, evolve to maintain success.> > So he's not really "macho" per old textbook, but neither is our
    world anymore.> > > > > It's basically like those genetic manipulation of different spices and animals. If science were to recreate mammoth, clone it, they'd probably have to use bits of elephant genome or whatever so it wouldn't be a true mammoth from
    a bygone era, technically, but would be very very close to it.> > > This is it.> > Trump is masculine no doubt in his views, resolve, forceful projection etc so Sawfish is right, but he's wrapped it in feminine style, as you jdeluise note, make up, hair
    transplants, words often, etc so somewhat and partially, it's kinda feminine, and I do believe it's what makes or made him more visible, palpatable and relatable than for example Ted Cruz who seemed dull?> > Not commenting on politics at all.> > > > > So
    the really funny thing is we do treat him as a woman. We don't take him by his words. His fans don't care what he says, basically Trump's words are meaningless?> > He says so much and of course something has to contradict the other, but we don't care.> >
    If you like him, you like him.> > So yeah, he's like a woman to us.> > > > > I think those are supportable and plausible points. I also think that we could examine historical leaders and maybe we'd see an evolution.My guess is that when alpha male
    leaders quit having outrageously large harems is when it started.What say you?-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Open the pod bay doors, HAL."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~~~~~~



    There is no golden age really, in Mozart era men wore wigs and makeup and high heels. Is that masculine?


    Perhaps the most masculine era was Victorian age, and we feel the residue of that, but that's not usual age at all.

    It was perhaps the best, but it's hardly a historical norm.



    Here's another thought. Why did Germans die for Fatherland and Russians for Motherland?

    It's the same kinda, but also it is isn't.

    Language is important.



    So that's why I am open to analysis like these regarding Trump.




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