From: pelle@svans.los

When Foreign Companies who are building extremely complex products,
machines, and various other “things,” come into the United States with massive Investments, I want them to bring their people of expertise for
a period of time to teach and train our people how to make these very
unique and complex products, as they phase out of our Country, and back
into their land. If we didn’t do this, all of that massive Investment
will never come in the first place — Chips, Semiconductors, Computers,
Ships, Trains, and so many other products that we have to learn from
others how to make, or, in many cases, relearn, because we used to be
great at it, but not anymore. For example, Shipbuilding, where we used
to build a Ship a day and now, we barely build a Ship a year. I don’t
want to frighten off or disincentivize Investment into America by
outside Countries or Companies. We welcome them, we welcome their
employees, and we are willing to proudly say we will learn from them,
and do even better than them at their own “game,” sometime into the not
too distant future!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115204049358078594

Great marketing speech, Small Hands! "We'll give you the money,
know-how, and off to Quantamo we eff!"

--
"Cough cough"
-- Suzanne Lenglen

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On 16.9.2025 19.57, Pelle Svansl�s wrote:

When Foreign Companies who are building extremely complex products, machines, and various other ?things,? come into the United States with massive Investments, I want them to bring their people of expertise for
a period of time to teach and train our people how to make these very
unique and complex products, as they phase out of our Country, and back
into their land. If we didn?t do this, all of that massive Investment
will never come in the first place ? Chips, Semiconductors, Computers, Ships, Trains, and so many other products that we have to learn from
others how to make, or, in many cases, relearn, because we used to be
great at it, but not anymore. For example, Shipbuilding, where we used
to build a Ship a day and now, we barely build a Ship a year. I don?t
want to frighten off or disincentivize Investment into America by
outside Countries or Companies. We welcome them, we welcome their
employees, and we are willing to proudly say we will learn from them,
and do even better than them at their own ?game,? sometime into the not
too distant future!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115204049358078594

Great marketing speech, Small Hands! "We'll give you the money, know-
how, and off to Quantamo we eff!"

And whattayouknow. Who do you think swallowed the bait? And then some.
The blue eyed Finnskies have agreed to build seven icebreakers in the US.

It's almost as if Trump knew who he was talking about!

--
"Cough cough"
-- Suzanne Lenglen

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Pelle Svansl�s kirjoitti 10.10.2025 klo 9.43:

On 16.9.2025 19.57, Pelle Svansl�s wrote:

When Foreign Companies who are building extremely complex products,
machines, and various other ?things,? come into the United States with
massive Investments, I want them to bring their people of expertise
for a period of time to teach and train our people how to make these
very unique and complex products, as they phase out of our Country,
and back into their land. If we didn?t do this, all of that massive
Investment will never come in the first place ? Chips, Semiconductors,
Computers, Ships, Trains, and so many other products that we have to
learn from others how to make, or, in many cases, relearn, because we
used to be great at it, but not anymore. For example, Shipbuilding,
where we used to build a Ship a day and now, we barely build a Ship a
year. I don?t want to frighten off or disincentivize Investment into
America by outside Countries or Companies. We welcome them, we welcome
their employees, and we are willing to proudly say we will learn from
them, and do even better than them at their own ?game,? sometime into
the not too distant future!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115204049358078594

Great marketing speech, Small Hands! "We'll give you the money, know-
how, and off to Quantamo we eff!"

And whattayouknow. Who do you think swallowed the bait? And then some.
The blue eyed Finnskies have agreed to build seven icebreakers in the US.

It's almost as if Trump knew who he was talking about!

Make US great at icebreakers again.

Meanwhile, Trump putting 100% tariffs for China. Haven't we seen this
movie before.

I'm just wondering whether I should buy crashing stocks or skyrocketing
gold?

This one's for JD: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G29QAmIXoAAWi_g?format=jpg&name=900x900

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TT kirjoitti 11.10.2025 klo 13.24:

This one's for JD: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G29QAmIXoAAWi_g?format=jpg&name=900x900

"SOMEONE JUST OPENED A #BITCOIN SHORT 30 MINS BEFORE TRUMP'S TARIFF ANNOUNCEMENT AND JUST CLOSED WITH $88,000,000 PROFIT

HE OPENED THIS ACCOUNT TODAY"

https://x.com/Vivek4real_/status/1976787212491801051

A bit of insider trading in Trump world?

Anyway, what's the nonsense about crypto being a hedge for anything...
Gold - now *that* is a hedge.

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TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

This one's for JD: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G29QAmIXoAAWi_g?format=jpg&name=900x900

Luckily I had a massive short going when it happened. Good day
for me :)

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TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

TT kirjoitti 11.10.2025 klo 13.24:

This one's for JD:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G29QAmIXoAAWi_g?format=jpg&name=900x900

"SOMEONE JUST OPENED A #BITCOIN SHORT 30 MINS BEFORE TRUMP'S
TARIFF
ANNOUNCEMENT AND JUST CLOSED WITH $88,000,000 PROFIT

HE OPENED THIS ACCOUNT TODAY"

https://x.com/Vivek4real_/status/1976787212491801051

A bit of insider trading in Trump world?

Anyway, what's the nonsense about crypto being a hedge for
anything...
Gold - now *that* is a hedge.

I'm sure the announcement was planned to benefit insiders, and
Trump has no intention of following through. But as for crypto,
the market had been pumping for no reason for the last week and
bitcoin hit multiple all-time highs, it was obviously going to
crash. Eventually the market will stabilize but for now you can
profit from the volatility, just have to manage your risk (hedge
with perps, for instance).

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TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

TT kirjoitti 11.10.2025 klo 13.24:

This one's for JD:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G29QAmIXoAAWi_g?format=jpg&name=900x900

"SOMEONE JUST OPENED A #BITCOIN SHORT 30 MINS BEFORE TRUMP'S
TARIFF
ANNOUNCEMENT AND JUST CLOSED WITH $88,000,000 PROFIT

HE OPENED THIS ACCOUNT TODAY"

https://x.com/Vivek4real_/status/1976787212491801051

A bit of insider trading in Trump world?

Anyway, what's the nonsense about crypto being a hedge for
anything...
Gold - now *that* is a hedge.

er.... https://www.ecoticias.com/en/700-quintillion-in-cosmic-gold-nasa-see/20577/

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jdeluise kirjoitti 11.10.2025 klo 23.44:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

TT kirjoitti 11.10.2025 klo 13.24:

This one's for JD:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G29QAmIXoAAWi_g?format=jpg&name=900x900

"SOMEONE JUST OPENED A #BITCOIN SHORT 30 MINS BEFORE TRUMP'S TARIFF
ANNOUNCEMENT AND JUST CLOSED WITH $88,000,000 PROFIT

HE OPENED THIS ACCOUNT TODAY"

https://x.com/Vivek4real_/status/1976787212491801051

A bit of insider trading in Trump world?

Anyway, what's the nonsense about crypto being a hedge for anything...
Gold - now *that* is a hedge.

er.... https://www.ecoticias.com/en/700-quintillion-in-cosmic-gold-nasa- see/20577/

Oh, no, the value is gone even before I invested in it. Damn. :)

Seriously, takes 6 years to fly there, and the window with Mars
propulsion opens every 2 years. Psyche isn't even coming back, which
would be even more complicated.

So I guess we could all bathe in gold at earlies in about 20 years?
Of course we may need a couple decades more to master space mining.
Unless the chinese can do that already.

So yes, the current problem will be whether the gold price will fall
after I buy it & to choose between gold britannia, buffalo or maple
leaf. Or the cheaper option of gold bar.
Wisest would likely be to put money in gold etf but what's the fun in that!

But by Jove the price is high currently. One oz (31g) gold coin is
currently 4000 dollars, and little less euros. One coin.

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TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

jdeluise kirjoitti 11.10.2025 klo 23.44:

TT <TT@dprk.kp> writes:

TT kirjoitti 11.10.2025 klo 13.24:

This one's for JD:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G29QAmIXoAAWi_g?format=jpg&name=900x900

"SOMEONE JUST OPENED A #BITCOIN SHORT 30 MINS BEFORE TRUMP'S
TARIFF
ANNOUNCEMENT AND JUST CLOSED WITH $88,000,000 PROFIT

HE OPENED THIS ACCOUNT TODAY"

https://x.com/Vivek4real_/status/1976787212491801051

A bit of insider trading in Trump world?

Anyway, what's the nonsense about crypto being a hedge for
anything...
Gold - now *that* is a hedge.

er.... https://www.ecoticias.com/en/700-quintillion-in-cosmic-gold-nasa-
see/20577/

Oh, no, the value is gone even before I invested in it. Damn. :)

Seriously, takes 6 years to fly there, and the window with Mars
propulsion opens every 2 years. Psyche isn't even coming back,
which
would be even more complicated.

So I guess we could all bathe in gold at earlies in about 20
years?
Of course we may need a couple decades more to master space
mining. Unless the chinese can do that already.

So yes, the current problem will be whether the gold price will
fall
after I buy it & to choose between gold britannia, buffalo or
maple
leaf. Or the cheaper option of gold bar.
Wisest would likely be to put money in gold etf but what's the
fun in that!

But by Jove the price is high currently. One oz (31g) gold coin
is
currently 4000 dollars, and little less euros. One coin.

The point is, if the value of gold comes primarily from scarcity
then you're only a large discovery or two away from losing your
shirt. That discovery may be out of reach for now, but surely
there are massive gold deposits we haven't found on earth yet.

Practically speaking, gold is a pain at any kind of scale. Do you
have the space and security to store it effectively? How will you
sell it when needed? In some kind of societal collapse, it'd
likely get taken by looters and you'd be left with nothing for all
your efforts...

I'm not arguing crypto solves it all, but it has its place.
You're a perma-hater and that's OK. If you're happy sticking
exclusively to trading papers and spanish doubloons, more power to
you :)

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