• Dishonest mechanic

    From Bryan Simmons@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 14:15:42
    I tried to leave a complaint on the website, but it said that I'd
    exceeded the 1,000 character limit, so I called and talked to a live
    person. She assured me that they will investigate so that this doesn't
    happen again. Here's what I had written.

    *****
    This is in regards to the <brand of car service stores> at XXXX XXXXXXX,
    St. Louis, MO XXXXX. Last year, we took two of our cars to that shop to
    get new brake pads installed. The gentleman working there was very
    polite, and we were very happy with the service and the cost. I have a regular mechanic, but their policy is to replace rotors every time they replace pads, and I didn't want to waste money. A few weeks ago, we took
    our third car into <brand of car service stores> because the front
    brakes seemed to be squeaking slightly. My intention was to just get
    front pads. The guy from <brand of car service stores> called and told
    me that I needed pads, but I also needed rotors because the pads had
    worn down so much that they scarred the rotors, and that I also needed
    rear shoes and new drums for the same reason.

    I was suspicious because the car had passed inspection less than 1100
    miles ago. It was a different guy than I had dealt with the last 2
    times, and he was wanting to do about $900-$1000 of repairs. I left and
    drove home. The car sat undriven for a couple of weeks before I took it
    in to my regular mechanic. The verdict: My shoes did need to be replaced
    soon, but the drums are fine, and he's reusing them. The pads would just barely pass inspection, but they hadn't damaged the rotors.

    The guy at the <brand of car service stores> on XXXXXXX outright lied to
    me. Has there been a management change since last Summer? The guy that
    did that damaged the reputation of your company. I know this, I'll never
    take my car there again, and would hesitate to do business with any
    <brand of car service stores>. I have no idea whether that location is
    company owned or a franchise, but you need to investigate the practices
    at that location. The guy is defrauding trusting customers.

    *****

    They opened a case file, and are going to get back to me. Hopefully they
    catch the guy and get rid of him. Who knows, maybe they'll give me a
    future discount on something, but even if they don't, if they bring down
    the guy who tried to steal from me, that's plenty.

    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

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  • From Tal Yessen@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 13:27:38
    On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:15:42 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    They opened a case file, and are going to get back to me. Hopefully
    they catch the guy and get rid of him. Who knows, maybe they'll give
    me a future discount on something, but even if they don't, if they
    bring down the guy who tried to steal from me, that's plenty.

    Steal from YOU to make money for THEM.

    Expect a show of nothing much and he gets a pat on the bask...


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  • From Unknown@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 20:31:11

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    I tried to leave a complaint on the website, but it said that I'd
    exceeded the 1,000 character limit, so I called and talked to a live
    person. She assured me that they will investigate so that this doesn't happen again. Here's what I had written.

    *****
    This is in regards to the <brand of car service stores> at XXXX XXXXXXX,
    St. Louis, MO XXXXX.

    SNIP

    They opened a case file, and are going to get back to me. Hopefully they catch the guy and get rid of him. Who knows, maybe they'll give me a
    future discount on something, but even if they don't, if they bring down
    the guy who tried to steal from me, that's plenty.


    They might talk to him, but doubt they will do anything as him trying
    to cheat you and up sale unnecessary work just brings in more money for
    the company. If they were to receive dozens of complaints of this mechanic
    and location, they might take action.

    You'll probably get a coupon for « off or even a free oil change.

    I wish you luck, though.

    ~

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  • From Bryan Simmons@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 17:08:37
    On 1/29/2026 2:27 PM, Tal Yessen wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:15:42 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    They opened a case file, and are going to get back to me. Hopefully
    they catch the guy and get rid of him. Who knows, maybe they'll give
    me a future discount on something, but even if they don't, if they
    bring down the guy who tried to steal from me, that's plenty.

    Steal from YOU to make money for THEM.

    Expect a show of nothing much and he gets a pat on the bask...

    Most of the locations are franchised. Companies regularly pull
    franchises that they feel reflect poorly on their brand. There was a Save-a-Lot grocery store that was forced out of business because the
    owner couldn't afford to do a remodel to bring the store to a newer
    look. That sucked for me because we used to stop there on the way to
    camping to buy provisions. In sales, the company lost wholesale sales,
    but they, I guess, felt that the Pacific, MO store cheapened their
    brand. Of course, franchisers vary in the degree of institutional
    control they exert. I've noticed that especially in hospitality, but
    this is a major brand with name recognition in the high nineties.

    Also, bad publicity is very bad. https://www.serviceskills.com/the-cost-of-losing-just-one-customer-why-retention-beats-acquisition/

    I was very articulate in my conversation with the customer service
    person. The kind of person who is likely to go to the trouble that I
    did, without requesting anything tangible is the one smart marketers
    know to be concerned about. I made no threats like going on social media
    or contacting the BBB, but I fit the type that would. People who seem principled are the ones likely to do damage.

    *****
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.
    -- W.B. Yeats
    *****

    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

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    tested on laboratory animals.

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  • From Tal Yessen@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 29, 2026 17:10:25
    On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 17:08:37 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 1/29/2026 2:27 PM, Tal Yessen wrote:
    On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 14:15:42 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    They opened a case file, and are going to get back to me. Hopefully
    they catch the guy and get rid of him. Who knows, maybe they'll
    give me a future discount on something, but even if they don't, if
    they bring down the guy who tried to steal from me, that's plenty.


    Steal from YOU to make money for THEM.

    Expect a show of nothing much and he gets a pat on the bask...

    Most of the locations are franchised. Companies regularly pull
    franchises that they feel reflect poorly on their brand. There was a Save-a-Lot grocery store that was forced out of business because the
    owner couldn't afford to do a remodel to bring the store to a newer
    look. That sucked for me because we used to stop there on the way to
    camping to buy provisions. In sales, the company lost wholesale
    sales, but they, I guess, felt that the Pacific, MO store cheapened
    their brand. Of course, franchisers vary in the degree of
    institutional control they exert. I've noticed that especially in hospitality, but this is a major brand with name recognition in the
    high nineties.

    Also, bad publicity is very bad. https://www.serviceskills.com/the-cost-of-losing-just-one-customer-why-retention-beats-acquisition/

    I was very articulate in my conversation with the customer service
    person. The kind of person who is likely to go to the trouble that I
    did, without requesting anything tangible is the one smart marketers
    know to be concerned about. I made no threats like going on social
    media or contacting the BBB, but I fit the type that would. People
    who seem principled are the ones likely to do damage.

    *****
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.
    -- W.B. Yeats
    *****


    You get an A+ for tact and restraint regardless.

    It takes a lot to warp a rotor, and the feeling when it does is
    unmistakable!


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  • From Bruce@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 30, 2026 12:55:27
    On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 17:10:25 -0700, Tal Yessen <flwp@in.valid> wrote:

    On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 17:08:37 -0600
    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> wrote:

    Most of the locations are franchised. Companies regularly pull
    franchises that they feel reflect poorly on their brand. There was a
    Save-a-Lot grocery store that was forced out of business because the
    owner couldn't afford to do a remodel to bring the store to a newer
    look. That sucked for me because we used to stop there on the way to
    camping to buy provisions. In sales, the company lost wholesale
    sales, but they, I guess, felt that the Pacific, MO store cheapened
    their brand. Of course, franchisers vary in the degree of
    institutional control they exert. I've noticed that especially in
    hospitality, but this is a major brand with name recognition in the
    high nineties.

    Also, bad publicity is very bad.
    https://www.serviceskills.com/the-cost-of-losing-just-one-customer-why-retention-beats-acquisition/

    I was very articulate in my conversation with the customer service
    person. The kind of person who is likely to go to the trouble that I
    did, without requesting anything tangible is the one smart marketers
    know to be concerned about. I made no threats like going on social
    media or contacting the BBB, but I fit the type that would. People
    who seem principled are the ones likely to do damage.

    *****
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.
    -- W.B. Yeats
    *****


    You get an A+ for tact and restraint regardless.

    You're so right-wing Hitler would be scared of you. Why do you then
    choose 2 Democrats to suck up to?

    --
    Bruce
    <https://i.ibb.co/WN88KZm7/kim.jpg>

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  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 22:07:14

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    I tried to leave a complaint on the website, but it said that I'd
    exceeded the 1,000 character limit, so I called and talked to a live
    person. She assured me that they will investigate so that this doesn't happen again. Here's what I had written.

    *****
    This is in regards to the <brand of car service stores> at XXXX XXXXXXX,
    St. Louis, MO XXXXX. Last year, we took two of our cars to that shop to
    get new brake pads installed. The gentleman working there was very
    polite, and we were very happy with the service and the cost. I have a regular mechanic, but their policy is to replace rotors every time they replace pads, and I didn't want to waste money. A few weeks ago, we took
    our third car into <brand of car service stores> because the front
    brakes seemed to be squeaking slightly. My intention was to just get
    front pads. The guy from <brand of car service stores> called and told
    me that I needed pads, but I also needed rotors because the pads had
    worn down so much that they scarred the rotors, and that I also needed
    rear shoes and new drums for the same reason.

    I was suspicious because the car had passed inspection less than 1100
    miles ago. It was a different guy than I had dealt with the last 2
    times, and he was wanting to do about $900-$1000 of repairs. I left and drove home. The car sat undriven for a couple of weeks before I took it
    in to my regular mechanic. The verdict: My shoes did need to be replaced soon, but the drums are fine, and he's reusing them. The pads would just barely pass inspection, but they hadn't damaged the rotors.

    The guy at the <brand of car service stores> on XXXXXXX outright lied to
    me. Has there been a management change since last Summer? The guy that
    did that damaged the reputation of your company. I know this, I'll never take my car there again, and would hesitate to do business with any
    <brand of car service stores>. I have no idea whether that location is company owned or a franchise, but you need to investigate the practices
    at that location. The guy is defrauding trusting customers.

    *****

    They opened a case file, and are going to get back to me. Hopefully they catch the guy and get rid of him. Who knows, maybe they'll give me a
    future discount on something, but even if they don't, if they bring down
    the guy who tried to steal from me, that's plenty.


    We had the transmission computer malfunction due to water getting into the housing.
    The transmission shop down the street gave me an estimate of about 3 to 4 thousand
    for the repair which needed a replacement computer. I got a replacement junkyard
    box from eBay for about $100 and plugged it in. Worked like a charm. OTOH, I should have tried drying out the old box instead. I ended up with two control boxes. It was the most beautiful station wagon ever but I don't want to own a car
    with a turbo ever again.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/fHidjMACrvzi9KkFA

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  • From Tal Yessen@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 16:14:58
    On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 22:07:14 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    I tried to leave a complaint on the website, but it said that I'd
    exceeded the 1,000 character limit, so I called and talked to a
    live person. She assured me that they will investigate so that this
    doesn't happen again. Here's what I had written.

    *****
    This is in regards to the <brand of car service stores> at XXXX
    XXXXXXX, St. Louis, MO XXXXX. Last year, we took two of our cars to
    that shop to get new brake pads installed. The gentleman working
    there was very polite, and we were very happy with the service and
    the cost. I have a regular mechanic, but their policy is to
    replace rotors every time they replace pads, and I didn't want to
    waste money. A few weeks ago, we took our third car into <brand of
    car service stores> because the front brakes seemed to be squeaking slightly. My intention was to just get front pads. The guy from
    <brand of car service stores> called and told me that I needed
    pads, but I also needed rotors because the pads had worn down so
    much that they scarred the rotors, and that I also needed rear
    shoes and new drums for the same reason.

    I was suspicious because the car had passed inspection less than
    1100 miles ago. It was a different guy than I had dealt with the
    last 2 times, and he was wanting to do about $900-$1000 of repairs.
    I left and drove home. The car sat undriven for a couple of weeks
    before I took it in to my regular mechanic. The verdict: My shoes
    did need to be replaced soon, but the drums are fine, and he's
    reusing them. The pads would just barely pass inspection, but they
    hadn't damaged the rotors.

    The guy at the <brand of car service stores> on XXXXXXX outright
    lied to me. Has there been a management change since last Summer?
    The guy that did that damaged the reputation of your company. I
    know this, I'll never take my car there again, and would hesitate
    to do business with any <brand of car service stores>. I have no
    idea whether that location is company owned or a franchise, but you
    need to investigate the practices at that location. The guy is
    defrauding trusting customers.

    *****

    They opened a case file, and are going to get back to me. Hopefully
    they catch the guy and get rid of him. Who knows, maybe they'll
    give me a future discount on something, but even if they don't, if
    they bring down the guy who tried to steal from me, that's plenty.


    We had the transmission computer malfunction due to water getting
    into the housing. The transmission shop down the street gave me an
    estimate of about 3 to 4 thousand for the repair which needed a
    replacement computer. I got a replacement junkyard box from eBay for
    about $100 and plugged it in. Worked like a charm. OTOH, I should
    have tried drying out the old box instead. I ended up with two
    control boxes. It was the most beautiful station wagon ever but I
    don't want to own a car with a turbo ever again.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/fHidjMACrvzi9KkFA

    Turbo in a Passat wagon?

    Sweet.


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  • From Bryan Simmons@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 18:31:36
    On 2/1/2026 5:14 PM, Tal Yessen wrote:
    On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 22:07:14 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    I tried to leave a complaint on the website, but it said that I'd
    exceeded the 1,000 character limit, so I called and talked to a
    live person. She assured me that they will investigate so that this
    doesn't happen again. Here's what I had written.

    *****
    This is in regards to the <brand of car service stores> at XXXX
    XXXXXXX, St. Louis, MO XXXXX. Last year, we took two of our cars to
    that shop to get new brake pads installed. The gentleman working
    there was very polite, and we were very happy with the service and
    the cost. I have a regular mechanic, but their policy is to
    replace rotors every time they replace pads, and I didn't want to
    waste money. A few weeks ago, we took our third car into <brand of
    car service stores> because the front brakes seemed to be squeaking
    slightly. My intention was to just get front pads. The guy from
    <brand of car service stores> called and told me that I needed
    pads, but I also needed rotors because the pads had worn down so
    much that they scarred the rotors, and that I also needed rear
    shoes and new drums for the same reason.

    I was suspicious because the car had passed inspection less than
    1100 miles ago. It was a different guy than I had dealt with the
    last 2 times, and he was wanting to do about $900-$1000 of repairs.
    I left and drove home. The car sat undriven for a couple of weeks
    before I took it in to my regular mechanic. The verdict: My shoes
    did need to be replaced soon, but the drums are fine, and he's
    reusing them. The pads would just barely pass inspection, but they
    hadn't damaged the rotors.

    The guy at the <brand of car service stores> on XXXXXXX outright
    lied to me. Has there been a management change since last Summer?
    The guy that did that damaged the reputation of your company. I
    know this, I'll never take my car there again, and would hesitate
    to do business with any <brand of car service stores>. I have no
    idea whether that location is company owned or a franchise, but you
    need to investigate the practices at that location. The guy is
    defrauding trusting customers.

    *****

    They opened a case file, and are going to get back to me. Hopefully
    they catch the guy and get rid of him. Who knows, maybe they'll
    give me a future discount on something, but even if they don't, if
    they bring down the guy who tried to steal from me, that's plenty.


    We had the transmission computer malfunction due to water getting
    into the housing. The transmission shop down the street gave me an
    estimate of about 3 to 4 thousand for the repair which needed a
    replacement computer. I got a replacement junkyard box from eBay for
    about $100 and plugged it in. Worked like a charm. OTOH, I should
    have tried drying out the old box instead. I ended up with two
    control boxes. It was the most beautiful station wagon ever but I
    don't want to own a car with a turbo ever again.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/fHidjMACrvzi9KkFA

    Turbo in a Passat wagon?

    Sweet.

    We've got an old RDX with a turbo, and when you really step on the gas,
    it's like G forces. Our son bought it used with over 200K, and we
    acquired it from him in a complicated transaction that was mutually beneficial. At one point the tranny cooler in the radiator ruptured, so
    it's got a new radiator and has had a transmission flush and new fluid.
    It's mostly for camping and transporting larger things, but we have to
    drive it every so often, and it's good in the snow.

    --
    --Bryan https://www.instagram.com/bryangsimmons/

    For your safety and protection, this sig. has been thoroughly
    tested on laboratory animals.

    "Most of the food described here is nauseating.
    We're just too courteous to say so."
    -- Cindy Hamilton

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  • From dsi1@3:633/10 to All on Monday, February 02, 2026 05:05:33

    Tal Yessen <flwp@in.valid> posted:

    On Sun, 01 Feb 2026 22:07:14 GMT
    dsi1 <user4746@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:

    Bryan Simmons <bryangsimmons@gmail.com> posted:

    I tried to leave a complaint on the website, but it said that I'd exceeded the 1,000 character limit, so I called and talked to a
    live person. She assured me that they will investigate so that this doesn't happen again. Here's what I had written.

    *****
    This is in regards to the <brand of car service stores> at XXXX
    XXXXXXX, St. Louis, MO XXXXX. Last year, we took two of our cars to
    that shop to get new brake pads installed. The gentleman working
    there was very polite, and we were very happy with the service and
    the cost. I have a regular mechanic, but their policy is to
    replace rotors every time they replace pads, and I didn't want to
    waste money. A few weeks ago, we took our third car into <brand of
    car service stores> because the front brakes seemed to be squeaking slightly. My intention was to just get front pads. The guy from
    <brand of car service stores> called and told me that I needed
    pads, but I also needed rotors because the pads had worn down so
    much that they scarred the rotors, and that I also needed rear
    shoes and new drums for the same reason.

    I was suspicious because the car had passed inspection less than
    1100 miles ago. It was a different guy than I had dealt with the
    last 2 times, and he was wanting to do about $900-$1000 of repairs.
    I left and drove home. The car sat undriven for a couple of weeks
    before I took it in to my regular mechanic. The verdict: My shoes
    did need to be replaced soon, but the drums are fine, and he's
    reusing them. The pads would just barely pass inspection, but they
    hadn't damaged the rotors.

    The guy at the <brand of car service stores> on XXXXXXX outright
    lied to me. Has there been a management change since last Summer?
    The guy that did that damaged the reputation of your company. I
    know this, I'll never take my car there again, and would hesitate
    to do business with any <brand of car service stores>. I have no
    idea whether that location is company owned or a franchise, but you
    need to investigate the practices at that location. The guy is
    defrauding trusting customers.

    *****

    They opened a case file, and are going to get back to me. Hopefully
    they catch the guy and get rid of him. Who knows, maybe they'll
    give me a future discount on something, but even if they don't, if
    they bring down the guy who tried to steal from me, that's plenty.


    We had the transmission computer malfunction due to water getting
    into the housing. The transmission shop down the street gave me an
    estimate of about 3 to 4 thousand for the repair which needed a
    replacement computer. I got a replacement junkyard box from eBay for
    about $100 and plugged it in. Worked like a charm. OTOH, I should
    have tried drying out the old box instead. I ended up with two
    control boxes. It was the most beautiful station wagon ever but I
    don't want to own a car with a turbo ever again.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/fHidjMACrvzi9KkFA

    Turbo in a Passat wagon?

    Sweet.


    VW/Audi pioneered/popularized the idea of small turbo-charged engines in most of
    it's products. These days, most light cars have an engines of this type. VW made
    turbo fours legit. VW also made fuel injection commonplace starting in the 60's.
    The Passat had a 1.8L engine in a 3700 lb station wagon. That sounded nutty as hell but it worked out okay, I guess. It also had VW's ubiquitous 4Motion system.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GN9w_VKVas






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