Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
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This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call
us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
and it's a media opp.
https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.
As for Frakes, just bare in mind that he himself ruined the
"Thunderbirds" franchise*. He signed on to make the movie without even knowing what it was, watched a couple of episodes and thought he knew
it all ... and the resulting mess of a movie proces he had absolutely
no idea at all. X-(
Verily, in article <10ong8b$3oker$1@dont-email.me>, did
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As for Frakes, just bare in mind that he himself ruined the
"Thunderbirds" franchise*. He signed on to make the movie without even
knowing what it was, watched a couple of episodes and thought he knew
it all ... and the resulting mess of a movie proces he had absolutely
no idea at all. X-(
Okay, but is that relevant to Trek? Or do you just mean that you hate
him for that?
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:
Verily, in article <10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and call >>> us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively doing so
and it's a media opp.
https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been
higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop
than actually watching the latest show.
It's a growing movement. People want it to stop altogether. I guess the community still cares about the whole thing. The franchise was
epsteined so I don't care either way. My breaking point was STD. Picard
was unwatchable. I won't bother with the shit in production. The
premise is sooooooooo fucking stupid.
Objections to TNG were very minimal. My evidence on it was the sudden
surge in convention attendance. It grew leaps and bounds during the TNG
era. Resistence to DS9 came from the fact that it wasn't based on a
ship. I have friends who still refuse to watch DS9 because none of them consider starfleet politics a compelling story basis. So, to them it's
all preference.
I was in the service during DS9's run so I didn't watch it until many
years later. Rather enjoyed it. It was fun to watch the actors
interpret characters who didn't really like or trust each other and
learn to work together in a cohesive unit. And, also, characters who
didn't want to be there to begin with. The acting on that show was
really worthy.
Also, bonus the recurring female actors were eye candy.
Daniel
sysop | air & wave bbs
finger | calcmandan@bbs.erb.pw
"Deep
Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo,
but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").
Verily, in article <10osjr0$1e2om$1@dont-email.me>, did
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"Deep Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo,
but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the
downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").
What's your pick for the best?
On 2026-03-11 21:15:52 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <10osjr0$1e2om$1@dont-email.me>, did YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
"Deep Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets mumbo-jumbo,
but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the pre-downfall shows (the
downfall started with the ridiculous "Enterprise").
What's your pick for the best?
I liked both "The Next Generation" and "Voyager", although both had
their share of silly episodes (including pointless "big red reset
button" episodes).
Verily, in article <10osupd$1hntc$1@dont-email.me>, did
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On 2026-03-11 21:15:52 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <10osjr0$1e2om$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
"Deep Space 9" was okay, except for the silly religious Prophets
mumbo-jumbo, but it wasn't the best of the Trek shows of the
pre-downfall shows (the downfall started with the ridiculous
"Enterprise").
What's your pick for the best?
I liked both "The Next Generation" and "Voyager", although both had
their share of silly episodes (including pointless "big red reset
button" episodes).
ST:TNG might be my favorite overall. The first year was rough and the
last couple were a little silly, but the midrange was good IMO.
Did you watch Star Trek: Lower Decks? It's a comedy, but it does
respect the canon, and it's set shortly after Voyager's return.
I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(
Verily, in article <10ovb8q$2e0uh$1@dont-email.me>, did
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I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(
Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.
Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:
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I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(
Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.
Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.
I was told the show is good and a final episode seemingly de-cannonized
STD. Not sure if that was said to tempt me. I'm not opposed to watching
it, just hasn't garnered enough interest.
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(
Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.
Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.
Verily, in article <87ms0bfzn5.fsf@rpi3>, did me@sc1f1dan.com deliver
unto us this message:
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:
Verily, in article <10ovb8q$2e0uh$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(
Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.
Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.
I was told the show is good and a final episode seemingly de-cannonized
STD. Not sure if that was said to tempt me. I'm not opposed to watching
it, just hasn't garnered enough interest.
I didn't watch STD, so I don't know.
Maybe that was another factor in its cancellation. The rumor is that
Alex Kurtzman cancelled ST:LD because he was frustrated that it had
more viewers than STD, which he regarded as the serious show.
It was a reasonable time to cancel it, though. Five good years is long enough, and every show gets stale eventually. I just hope they keep
their promise to make another lighthearted show.
On 2026-03-13 12:06:54 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <10ovb8q$2e0uh$1@dont-email.me>, did
YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(
Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.
"5 mins" was just a guesstimate. It was at the idiotic "Oil me up,
Scotty" scene that I realised the show was simply garbage.
Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.
Difficult for it to be worse.
"Enterprise" was pure drivel. :-p
WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> writes:
On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wrote
(in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):
Verily, in article
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wroteI can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production available on
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>):
Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek and all other >>>>>> produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us and >>>>>> call us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out actively >>>>>> doing so and it's a media opp.
https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
I read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star Trek >>>>> fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been >>>>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but
nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
At some point there will be more people yelling at them to please stop >>>>> than actually watching the latest show.
Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A Card. Strange New >>>> Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the >>>> first season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far better >>>> than Disco. I have actively avoided seeing any eps of Starfleet Academy. >>>
YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of
ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and >>> tone as well.
If it's like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no prob. If
it?s like Spock?s Brain, I?ll pass.
I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
about it from sources I respect.
Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a glimmer of hope that my beloved
franchise isn't truly dead...
Unlike most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise is
much more deader-er than star trek.
D
On 2026-03-13 23:45:00 +0000, Daniel said:
WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> writes:
On Mar 10, 2026, The True Melissa wroteI will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
(in article<MPG.441a3587f08a57d8989b51@news.eternal-september.org>):
Verily, in articleIf it's like The Doomsday Machine or The Enterprise Incident, no
<0001HW.2F60965F00123B4C70000DEC738F@news.supernews.com>, did
akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
On Mar 9, 2026, The True Melissa wroteI can now recommend Star Trek Continues, a fan production
(in article<MPG.44187f9a60adcc7d989b49@news.eternal-september.org>): >>>>>> Verily, in article<10om70o$36p6e$2@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:Hmm. I didn?t much care for V?ger, or Disco, or Pick A
This is part of what the access media does with Star Trek andI read Frakes' actual comments, and he doesn't really blast Star
all other
produtions. Fans don't like Starfleet Academy so they attack us
and call us names. Jonathan Frakes and Robert Picardo are out
actively doing so and it's a media opp.
https://youtu.be/uQgyPRVGEG8?si=FicsJmBdJqDSA3w5
Trek
fans. He points out that the resistance to each Trek iteration has been >>>>>> higher. He's right. There were objections to ST:TNG and ST:DS9, but >>>>>> nothing like the objections to more recent shows.
At some point there will be more people yelling at them to
please stop
than actually watching the latest show.
Card. Strange New
Worlds was ok, and Lower Decks, once past the first few episodes of the >>>>> first season, was excellent. Not as good as TNG or DS9, but far
better than Disco. I have actively avoided seeing any eps of
Starfleet Academy.
available on
YouTube. It's not like most fan productions. It matches the quality of >>>> ST:TOS, or at least the first few episodes do, and matches its style and >>>> tone as well.
prob. If
itƒ??s like Spockƒ??s Brain, Iƒ??ll pass.
about it from sources I respect.
Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a glimmer of hope that my beloved
franchise isn't truly dead...
Unlike most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise
is much more deader-er than star trek.
D
Like Star Trek, the Star Wars animated shows are often better than the live-action ones.
"5 mins" was just a guesstimate. It was at the idiotic "Oil me up,
Scotty" scene that I realised the show was simply garbage.
Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.
Difficult for it to be worse. "Enterprise" was pure drivel. :-p
On 2026-03-13 17:06:40 +0000, The True Melissa said:
Verily, in article <87ms0bfzn5.fsf@rpi3>, did me@sc1f1dan.com deliver
unto us this message:
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:
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YourName@YourISP.com deliver unto us this message:
I haven't watched "Lower Decks" yet, nor any other Star Trek shows
since "Enterprise" (which I binned after five minutes of the first
episode!). So many shows, so little time. :-(
Only five minutes? Then you didn't even get to the sensual
decontamination massage.
Lower Decks is a better watch than Enterprise, IMO.
I was told the show is good and a final episode seemingly de-cannonized >> STD. Not sure if that was said to tempt me. I'm not opposed to watching >> it, just hasn't garnered enough interest.
I didn't watch STD, so I don't know.
Maybe that was another factor in its cancellation. The rumor is that
Alex Kurtzman cancelled ST:LD because he was frustrated that it had
more viewers than STD, which he regarded as the serious show.
It was a reasonable time to cancel it, though. Five good years is long enough, and every show gets stale eventually. I just hope they keep
their promise to make another lighthearted show.
I don't know about light-hearted, but in terms of animated Star Trek,
there is "Star Trek: Prodigy" and "Star Trek: Scouts" (webseries aimed
at preschoolers), but I haven't seen those yet either.
The creator of "Star Trek: Lower Decks" is making a new adult animated sci-fi show called "Odd Jobs" for Amazon Prime. <https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/lower-decks-mike-mcmahan-odd-jobs-sci-fi>
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-03-13 23:45:00 +0000, Daniel said:
I will give Lower Decks a shot this weekend. Only heard good things
about it from sources I respect. Maybe, just maybe, it'll give a
glimmer of hope that my beloved franchise isn't truly dead... Unlike
most trekkies, I also loved star wars. For me, that franchise is much
more deader-er than star trek.
D
Like Star Trek, the Star Wars animated shows are often better than the
live-action ones.
Indeed, for sure. Way better. But those series are in the can. Sure
we're getting yet more maul. We'll see if Filoni will stick with his
normal form or if the promotion got to his head.
I hope...
"5 mins" was just a guesstimate. It was at the idiotic "Oil me up,
Scotty" scene that I realised the show was simply garbage.
you mean the scene where it?s established that Vulcan females have points
on their anatomy other than their ears? That was pretty much where I bailed.
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