• Prefect Response to Those Silly Land Acknowledgements

    From BTR1701@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, February 26, 2026 01:38:03


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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, February 25, 2026 22:42:14
    On 2026-02-25 8:38 p.m., BTR1701 wrote:


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    I posted a slightly different edit of that same acknowledgement a few
    weeks back ;-) It happened at a Toronto City Council meeting. The
    speaker is a regular at those meetings. He told an interviewer later
    that some of the council members didn't even listen to him because they
    were too busy looking at their phones.

    I don't expect anything he said actually stuck with the councillors and
    that the land acknowledgements will continue for many years.

    I don't live in Toronto but I participated in an online seminar put on
    by our region about diabetic foot care and had to sit through a land acknowledgement, even though our region is on property legally bought
    from the local Indians; the land ownership is not contested by anyone as
    far as I know. But I still see articles about proposed building projects
    in our area where "indigenous groups" are carefully consulted to make
    sure THEY don't mind if a new building is 30 storeys high; if they do,
    that objection seems to be taken more seriously than others. It's
    completely ludicrous.

    --
    Rhino

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  • From The Horny Goat@3:633/10 to All on Friday, March 06, 2026 09:08:34
    On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 22:42:14 -0500, Rhino
    <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

    I don't live in Toronto but I participated in an online seminar put on
    by our region about diabetic foot care and had to sit through a land >acknowledgement, even though our region is on property legally bought
    from the local Indians; the land ownership is not contested by anyone as
    far as I know. But I still see articles about proposed building projects
    in our area where "indigenous groups" are carefully consulted to make
    sure THEY don't mind if a new building is 30 storeys high; if they do,
    that objection seems to be taken more seriously than others. It's
    completely ludicrous.

    I live in a municipality built on the edge of the ocean but rising to
    the mountains on the N side. While pre-contact there's evidence they
    climbed to the peaks, there's no evidence they ever LIVED anywhere
    more than a 1/4 mile from the shoreline. And that 90% of our town is
    beyond where the evidence shows they ever lived.

    Nevertheless the entire territory is claimed and we also have the "acknowledgements". I listen to McMaster alumni Zoom sessions and they
    also do so (though being 2500 miles away from where I live, it's a
    different lot being 'acknowledged' than locally) What REALLY burned me
    was a year ago when a non-member visiting my Toastmasters club
    suggested 'acknowledgements' and without a board vote they were in the
    next week's agenda and have been ever since.

    Nobody's ever questioned it but I've shown my protest by closing my
    eyes during the 'acknowledgement' and keeping them closed until it's
    done.

    The situation is rather different in BC than Ontario since Ontario was checkerboarded by treaties all ceding land whereas at most 15% of BC
    is covered by these. Bear in mind that Ontario is mostly flat whereas
    BC is heavily mountainous (more so than Oregon or California) so much
    of the land CAN'T have been inhabited in pre-modern times and has only
    been inhabited at all in the post WW2 era.

    There's a rather important court case going on in Richmond, BC which
    will probably set precedents for all of Canada eventually as for the
    first time clear title to fee simple owned land is being called into
    question. (That's the type of land that most homes and businesses are
    built on)

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