• The Trek formula, and why it works

    From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, March 01, 2026 06:52:33
    I stumbled across this video from a channel called TrekVault:

    The Formula That Made Star Trek Legendary (And Why They Abandoned It)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFM8hBo7jCo

    This video discusses the traditional moral triad of classic Trek, along
    with its episodic, non-arc storytelling and several other traits. Modern
    Trek installments downplay or lack these traits, and so the magic hasn't lasted.

    There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS was
    popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
    it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
    and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
    Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never
    watched, so I can't say.

    What we really need is classic Trek's earnestness without the silliness
    which turns it cheesy. The Trek franchise itself won't recover, IMO, but
    some other show could take up the mantel of good people in space.



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  • From Your Name@3:633/10 to All on Monday, March 02, 2026 10:20:32
    On 2026-03-01 11:52:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:

    I stumbled across this video from a channel called TrekVault:

    The Formula That Made Star Trek Legendary (And Why They Abandoned It)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFM8hBo7jCo

    This video discusses the traditional moral triad of classic Trek, along
    with its episodic, non-arc storytelling and several other traits. Modern
    Trek installments downplay or lack these traits, and so the magic hasn't lasted.

    There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS was popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
    it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
    and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
    Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never watched, so I can't say.

    What we really need is classic Trek's earnestness without the silliness
    which turns it cheesy. The Trek franchise itself won't recover, IMO, but
    some other show could take up the mantel of good people in space.

    Star Trek died years ago, consumed by the greed for more money. "The
    Orville" took over for a while, but then ended, probably snesibly
    before it too ran out of ideas. I can't think of any current "people in
    space" series that is running at the moment (other than "Starfleet
    Academy" of course) - the closest is the Apple TV show "For All
    Mankind" and it's new spin-off "Star City", or the new movie "Project
    Hail Mary".

    There are constant rumours of a Stargate reboot, which hopefully will
    never happen.


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  • From Daniel@3:633/10 to All on Friday, March 06, 2026 22:27:03
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:

    On 2026-03-01 11:52:33 +0000, The True Melissa said:
    I stumbled across this video from a channel called TrekVault:
    The Formula That Made Star Trek Legendary (And Why They Abandoned
    It)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFM8hBo7jCo
    This video discusses the traditional moral triad of classic Trek,
    along
    with its episodic, non-arc storytelling and several other traits. Modern
    Trek installments downplay or lack these traits, and so the magic hasn't
    lasted.
    There's another factor he and most other commenters ignore: ST:TOS
    was
    popular among SF fans because it was the only SF on TV. Yes, I watched
    it, but I also watched Wizards and Warriors. Classic Trek was cheesy,
    and while that was okay at the time, such a show could only be done
    satirically today. Neither TOS nor TNG could be taken seriously today.
    Many say DS9 found an interesting balance, but that's the one I never
    watched, so I can't say.
    What we really need is classic Trek's earnestness without the
    silliness
    which turns it cheesy. The Trek franchise itself won't recover, IMO, but
    some other show could take up the mantel of good people in space.

    Star Trek died years ago, consumed by the greed for more money. "The
    Orville" took over for a while, but then ended, probably snesibly
    before it too ran out of ideas. I can't think of any current "people
    in space" series that is running at the moment (other than "Starfleet Academy" of course) - the closest is the Apple TV show "For All
    Mankind" and it's new spin-off "Star City", or the new movie "Project
    Hail Mary".

    There are constant rumours of a Stargate reboot, which hopefully will
    never happen.

    I couldn't get into stargate. The twenty-two year old me liked the movie
    but that was thirty years ago. Who knows if I'd enjoy a re-view.a

    If TOS never existed but were produced today, it would be a disaster
    like Starfleet Academy. We would never know how great it would've been.

    TOS clips are quite popular among the youth on social media apps,
    and it's popular because the stories resonate with everyone because the
    stories were meant for everyone. People will overlook action scenes that
    were standard for the day for the story.

    Star Fleet Academy is created for a minute scope of audience, the result
    is failure.

    The OP's stance is miopic and rooted from a one-dimensional
    perspective. Too bad colleges no longer teach people to think
    critically.

    Daniel
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  • From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, March 07, 2026 14:05:17
    Verily, in article <87h5qscfyg.fsf@rpi3>, did me@sc1f1dan.com deliver
    unto us this message:

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
    There are constant rumours of a Stargate reboot, which hopefully
    will
    never happen.

    I couldn't get into stargate.

    I've never seen it. It was very popular for a while, to the point where
    nerds assumed other nerds knew it, but I wasn't watching much TV at that
    point in my life.

    The OP's stance is miopic and rooted from a one-dimensional
    perspective. Too bad colleges no longer teach people to think
    critically.

    How is my stance myopic or one-dimensional? It sounds like you largely
    agree, so your final paragraph was surprising.

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