• Re: Matt Walsh Savages STARFLEET ACADEMY

    From The True Melissa@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 12:24:28
    Verily, in article <10ktjs2$33lr8$1@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
    This has me wondering if they went through his papers and found some
    notes about a possible new Star Trek series - or even just an unfilmed script from the original series - and turned it into Starfleet Academy, giving them the ability to credit Roddenberry for each and every
    episode. That certainly adds *some* gravitas to the series if
    Roddenberry had some sort of creative contribution to its genesis - or
    at least it *could* for people inclined to think the man is a god of SF writing and can do no wrong.

    That is intriguing. Of course, they might have ignored his notes (if
    any) and simply stuck his name on for the same reasons they wanted the
    Star Trek name on it.


    Personally, I didn't despise it quite as much as everyone else although
    I'm far from delighted with it. I thought Caleb, the bad-boy/rebel, had
    the potential to be a very strong character as a guy who thinks outside
    the box like Captain Kirk. I don't yet care about any of the rest of the cast and actively loathe that completely cringey young hologram woman
    with the hideous hair style.

    Yeah, Caleb and the captain are the only ones who interest me. Tilly the hologram is so widely loathed that she might be written out after the
    first season, if they have any sense.

    I don't think I'm going to keep watching, since I've found some other
    shows I like better, but I could be persuaded to return if the cast were winnowed down to a reasonable number of decent characters.


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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 12:55:04
    On 2026-01-22 12:24 p.m., The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ktjs2$33lr8$1@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
    This has me wondering if they went through his papers and found some
    notes about a possible new Star Trek series - or even just an unfilmed
    script from the original series - and turned it into Starfleet Academy,
    giving them the ability to credit Roddenberry for each and every
    episode. That certainly adds *some* gravitas to the series if
    Roddenberry had some sort of creative contribution to its genesis - or
    at least it *could* for people inclined to think the man is a god of SF
    writing and can do no wrong.

    That is intriguing. Of course, they might have ignored his notes (if
    any) and simply stuck his name on for the same reasons they wanted the
    Star Trek name on it.

    They always do a "based on Star Trek" credit in these shows but this is
    the first thing in a long while that gave him a writing credit for an episode.... Oh, this is weird! I've just looked up Roddenberry's writing credits on IMDB and it is inconsistent even within IMDB; they only give Roddenberry credit for the first three episodes of Academy even though
    the episode guide gives him credit for all 10. They also give him
    writing credits for all sort of previous Trek series, even things that
    look like porn:

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0734472/

    The large majority of these seem to be "based on Star Trek" type credits though. Damn! I'm completely wrong about my initially assertion: I've
    just misunderstood how IMDB does things. I just started looked at the
    Voyager episode guide and Roddenberry is credited first as a writer for
    each of the episodes I've looked at. Ditto for Strange New Worlds.

    Okay, I get it now: IMDB gives Roddenberry first writer's credit for everything in the franchise, even the stuff that came out decades after
    his death, but it's just an acknowledgement that his ideas created the original Star Trek universe and they're all just building on it. That's
    fair enough of course. My apologies for misunderstanding how IMDB
    handles this situation. It looks like they haven't built this show on
    anything specific from Roddenberry himself, like an unfilmed script.


    Personally, I didn't despise it quite as much as everyone else although
    I'm far from delighted with it. I thought Caleb, the bad-boy/rebel, had
    the potential to be a very strong character as a guy who thinks outside
    the box like Captain Kirk. I don't yet care about any of the rest of the
    cast and actively loathe that completely cringey young hologram woman
    with the hideous hair style.

    Yeah, Caleb and the captain are the only ones who interest me. Tilly the hologram is so widely loathed that she might be written out after the
    first season, if they have any sense.

    She would be removed from the *existing* episodes entirely if I had my
    way. I haven't cringed so hard about a character since Jar Jar Binks.
    I'd write a new character, hire an actor to play him/her, and reshoot
    the scenes with Tilly entirely, then re-release whatever episodes
    contained her if they've ever been aired.

    I don't think I'm going to keep watching, since I've found some other
    shows I like better, but I could be persuaded to return if the cast were winnowed down to a reasonable number of decent characters.


    If I never looked at this show again, I'd probably never think about it
    except for a fleeting reflection that this could have been good if it
    only they hadn't filled it with cliches and cringe.

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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 11:23:14
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ktjs2$33lr8$1@dont-email.me>, did no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
    This has me wondering if they went through his papers and found some
    notes about a possible new Star Trek series - or even just an unfilmed
    script from the original series - and turned it into Starfleet Academy,
    giving them the ability to credit Roddenberry for each and every
    episode. That certainly adds *some* gravitas to the series if
    Roddenberry had some sort of creative contribution to its genesis - or
    at least it *could* for people inclined to think the man is a god of SF
    writing and can do no wrong.

    That is intriguing. Of course, they might have ignored his notes (if
    any) and simply stuck his name on for the same reasons they wanted the
    Star Trek name on it.

    Roddenberry is just listed by IMDb as creator. That?s standard IMDb policy.



    Personally, I didn't despise it quite as much as everyone else although
    I'm far from delighted with it. I thought Caleb, the bad-boy/rebel, had
    the potential to be a very strong character as a guy who thinks outside
    the box like Captain Kirk. I don't yet care about any of the rest of the
    cast and actively loathe that completely cringey young hologram woman
    with the hideous hair style.

    Yeah, Caleb and the captain are the only ones who interest me. Tilly the hologram is so widely loathed that she might be written out after the
    first season, if they have any sense.

    I don't think I'm going to keep watching, since I've found some other
    shows I like better, but I could be persuaded to return if the cast were winnowed down to a reasonable number of decent characters.





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  • From Rhino@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 00:01:38
    On 2026-01-22 1:23 p.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ktjs2$33lr8$1@dont-email.me>, did
    no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
    This has me wondering if they went through his papers and found some
    notes about a possible new Star Trek series - or even just an unfilmed
    script from the original series - and turned it into Starfleet Academy,
    giving them the ability to credit Roddenberry for each and every
    episode. That certainly adds *some* gravitas to the series if
    Roddenberry had some sort of creative contribution to its genesis - or
    at least it *could* for people inclined to think the man is a god of SF
    writing and can do no wrong.

    That is intriguing. Of course, they might have ignored his notes (if
    any) and simply stuck his name on for the same reasons they wanted the
    Star Trek name on it.

    Roddenberry is just listed by IMDb as creator. That?s standard IMDb policy.

    Look at the episode guide for Starfleet Academy. Here's the pilot:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27385510/

    See? Roddenberry is listed as a *writer* on every episode. I looked at
    the first few episodes of Strange New Worlds and Voyager and it was the
    same there: Roddenberry was listed as a writer.

    I freely acknowledge that he wrote the first draft of this universe and
    have no problem with him being acknowledged; I just don't think of him
    as having been a writer on the later shows so that's why I mistakenly
    thought they'd built Starfleet Academy on the basis of something
    specific he'd written like an unproduced script. I just find it odd that
    IMDB would present him as a writer of the episodes. But maybe that's
    just me.




    Personally, I didn't despise it quite as much as everyone else although
    I'm far from delighted with it. I thought Caleb, the bad-boy/rebel, had
    the potential to be a very strong character as a guy who thinks outside
    the box like Captain Kirk. I don't yet care about any of the rest of the >>> cast and actively loathe that completely cringey young hologram woman
    with the hideous hair style.

    Yeah, Caleb and the captain are the only ones who interest me. Tilly the
    hologram is so widely loathed that she might be written out after the
    first season, if they have any sense.

    I don't think I'm going to keep watching, since I've found some other
    shows I like better, but I could be persuaded to return if the cast were
    winnowed down to a reasonable number of decent characters.







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  • From anim8rfsk@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 12:40:05
    Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
    On 2026-01-22 1:23 p.m., anim8rfsk wrote:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
    Verily, in article <10ktjs2$33lr8$1@dont-email.me>, did
    no_offline_contact@example.com deliver unto us this message:
    This has me wondering if they went through his papers and found some
    notes about a possible new Star Trek series - or even just an unfilmed >>>> script from the original series - and turned it into Starfleet Academy, >>>> giving them the ability to credit Roddenberry for each and every
    episode. That certainly adds *some* gravitas to the series if
    Roddenberry had some sort of creative contribution to its genesis - or >>>> at least it *could* for people inclined to think the man is a god of SF >>>> writing and can do no wrong.

    That is intriguing. Of course, they might have ignored his notes (if
    any) and simply stuck his name on for the same reasons they wanted the
    Star Trek name on it.

    Roddenberry is just listed by IMDb as creator. That?s standard IMDb policy. >>
    Look at the episode guide for Starfleet Academy. Here's the pilot:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27385510/

    See? Roddenberry is listed as a *writer* on every episode.

    No, he?s not. He?s under the broad category of ?writer? but if you click
    the category title ?writer? it opens up and lists him as ?created by?

    I looked at
    the first few episodes of Strange New Worlds and Voyager and it was the
    same there: Roddenberry was listed as a writer.

    I freely acknowledge that he wrote the first draft of this universe and
    have no problem with him being acknowledged; I just don't think of him
    as having been a writer on the later shows so that's why I mistakenly thought they'd built Starfleet Academy on the basis of something
    specific he'd written like an unproduced script. I just find it odd that IMDB would present him as a writer of the episodes. But maybe that's
    just me.




    Personally, I didn't despise it quite as much as everyone else although >>>> I'm far from delighted with it. I thought Caleb, the bad-boy/rebel, had >>>> the potential to be a very strong character as a guy who thinks outside >>>> the box like Captain Kirk. I don't yet care about any of the rest of the >>>> cast and actively loathe that completely cringey young hologram woman
    with the hideous hair style.

    Yeah, Caleb and the captain are the only ones who interest me. Tilly the >>> hologram is so widely loathed that she might be written out after the
    first season, if they have any sense.

    I don't think I'm going to keep watching, since I've found some other
    shows I like better, but I could be persuaded to return if the cast were >>> winnowed down to a reasonable number of decent characters.










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