• The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect. Roger Williams.

    From Titus G@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, October 10, 2026 18:05:20
    The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect. Roger Williams.

    Although the writing was good, the content was mainly not though it has
    been widely read and praised by many. The ebook is free online but a
    priced hard copy is also available. It is short, less than about 140
    pages. The basic theme is that technology does more harm than good.
    Prime Intellect was developed by an individual programmer in C,
    beginning on a single computer but eventually replicated on billions,
    (yes, billions), with each operating independently but subject to the
    authority of the original. Eventually the hardware is moved to
    intergalactic space about four million parsecs away after Prime
    Intellect masters control over physical reality. I found this
    development part interesting, (the interest of commercial and political
    powers is addressed), but the control over physical reality is really
    just magic.
    This AI's behaviours are restricted by Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics.
    The first chapter was a bizarre revelling in very detailed masochism
    gleefully sought by the 37th oldest person on earth. With Prime
    Intellect preventing death in accordance with the first law and humans
    not subject to harm, the 600+ year old is bored and can only alleviate
    this boredom by suffering pain sometimes combined with sexual activities
    which is achieved by using the second law compelling Prime Intellect to
    ignore her which he does until the moment of her death when she is
    resurrected to her previous unharmed self by demand of the First Law..
    There were frequent repetitions of detailed descriptions of masochistic
    and sexual events which led me to believe that Roger Williams is
    somewhat sick in the head.
    I did enjoy the imaginative settings and the growth of Prime Intellect
    but overall it was too silly for my liking. Two Stars.

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  • From BobbieSellers@3:633/10 to All on Friday, October 09, 2026 23:15:55
    On 10/9/26 22:05, Titus G wrote:
    The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect. Roger Williams.

    Although the writing was good, the content was mainly not though it has
    been widely read and praised by many. The ebook is free online but a
    priced hard copy is also available. It is short, less than about 140
    pages. The basic theme is that technology does more harm than good.
    Prime Intellect was developed by an individual programmer in C,
    beginning on a single computer but eventually replicated on billions,
    (yes, billions), with each operating independently but subject to the authority of the original. Eventually the hardware is moved to
    intergalactic space about four million parsecs away after Prime
    Intellect masters control over physical reality. I found this
    development part interesting, (the interest of commercial and political powers is addressed), but the control over physical reality is really
    just magic.
    This AI's behaviours are restricted by Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics.
    The first chapter was a bizarre revelling in very detailed masochism gleefully sought by the 37th oldest person on earth. With Prime
    Intellect preventing death in accordance with the first law and humans
    not subject to harm, the 600+ year old is bored and can only alleviate
    this boredom by suffering pain sometimes combined with sexual activities which is achieved by using the second law compelling Prime Intellect to ignore her which he does until the moment of her death when she is resurrected to her previous unharmed self by demand of the First Law..
    There were frequent repetitions of detailed descriptions of masochistic
    and sexual events which led me to believe that Roger Williams is
    somewhat sick in the head.
    I did enjoy the imaginative settings and the growth of Prime Intellect
    but overall it was too silly for my liking. Two Stars.

    It sounds like a bit of sado-masochistic fantasy.
    Thank you for taking the hit for society of reading the story
    and telling us about it.




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  • From John Savard@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, October 11, 2026 01:25:33
    Oh, no. Now there's someone _else_ named Roger Williams.
    In addition to the New England Christian minister who is most famous
    for founding Rhode Island, and the famous pianist.
    Ah, Wikipedia tells me that the pianist's real name was Louis Jacob
    Weertz. I guess he, or his agent, or his label, felt that a less foreign-sounding name was needed for him to succeed commercially.
    Not that it matters, because it's still confusing.

    John Savard

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  • From John Savard@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, October 11, 2026 01:28:11
    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 01:25:33 GMT, quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard)
    wrote:

    Oh, no. Now there's someone _else_ named Roger Williams.
    In addition to the New England Christian minister who is most famous
    for founding Rhode Island, and the famous pianist.
    Ah, Wikipedia tells me that the pianist's real name was Louis Jacob
    Weertz. I guess he, or his agent, or his label, felt that a less >foreign-sounding name was needed for him to succeed commercially.
    Not that it matters, because it's still confusing.

    There's a fourth one - a Texas congressman who is the chairman of the
    House committee on small business.

    John Savard

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  • From Charles Packer@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, October 11, 2026 07:30:53
    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 01:28:11 GMT, John Savard wrote:

    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 01:25:33 GMT, quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard)
    wrote:

    Oh, no. Now there's someone _else_ named Roger Williams.
    In addition to the New England Christian minister who is most famous for >>founding Rhode Island, and the famous pianist.
    Ah, Wikipedia tells me that the pianist's real name was Louis Jacob
    Weertz. I guess he, or his agent, or his label, felt that a less >>foreign-sounding name was needed for him to succeed commercially. Not
    that it matters, because it's still confusing.

    There's a fourth one - a Texas congressman who is the chairman of the
    House committee on small business.

    John Savard

    The U.S. has 3,376 by the name of Roger Williams, according to https://futureboy.us/fsp/namefreq.fsp
    Canada presumably scales accordingly.

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  • From Robert Woodward@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, October 11, 2026 09:54:36
    In article <pan$bb9e0$2cf4598d$3f1ea7cb$ada4a2ab@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 01:28:11 GMT, John Savard wrote:

    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 01:25:33 GMT, quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard) wrote:

    Oh, no. Now there's someone _else_ named Roger Williams.
    In addition to the New England Christian minister who is most famous for >>founding Rhode Island, and the famous pianist.
    Ah, Wikipedia tells me that the pianist's real name was Louis Jacob >>Weertz. I guess he, or his agent, or his label, felt that a less >>foreign-sounding name was needed for him to succeed commercially. Not >>that it matters, because it's still confusing.

    There's a fourth one - a Texas congressman who is the chairman of the
    House committee on small business.

    John Savard

    The U.S. has 3,376 by the name of Roger Williams, according to https://futureboy.us/fsp/namefreq.fsp
    Canada presumably scales accordingly.

    An estimated number of Roger Williams because that website multiplies
    the probability of first name Roger with the probability of a last name Williams and multiplies the resultant probability by 300 hundred
    million. BTW, feeding it Ryk Spoor resulted in an error (it didn't
    recognize Ryk, and there were too few occurrences of Spoor to generate a probability).

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ?-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Charles Packer@3:633/10 to All on Monday, October 12, 2026 07:37:06
    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 09:54:36 -0700, Robert Woodward wrote:

    In article <pan$bb9e0$2cf4598d$3f1ea7cb$ada4a2ab@cpacker.org>,
    Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:

    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 01:28:11 GMT, John Savard wrote:

    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 01:25:33 GMT, quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard)
    wrote:

    Oh, no. Now there's someone _else_ named Roger Williams.
    In addition to the New England Christian minister who is most famous
    for founding Rhode Island, and the famous pianist.
    Ah, Wikipedia tells me that the pianist's real name was Louis Jacob
    Weertz. I guess he, or his agent, or his label, felt that a less
    foreign-sounding name was needed for him to succeed commercially. Not
    that it matters, because it's still confusing.

    There's a fourth one - a Texas congressman who is the chairman of the
    House committee on small business.

    John Savard

    The U.S. has 3,376 by the name of Roger Williams, according to
    https://futureboy.us/fsp/namefreq.fsp Canada presumably scales
    accordingly.

    An estimated number of Roger Williams because that website multiplies
    the probability of first name Roger with the probability of a last name Williams and multiplies the resultant probability by 300 hundred
    million. BTW, feeding it Ryk Spoor resulted in an error (it didn't
    recognize Ryk, and there were too few occurrences of Spoor to generate a probability).

    There used to be a better website for getting name frequency estimates
    but it disappeared without warning a few years ago.

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  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 13, 2026 21:26:51
    On 10/11/2026 3:30 AM, Charles Packer wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 01:28:11 GMT, John Savard wrote:

    On Sun, 11 Oct 2026 01:25:33 GMT, quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard)
    wrote:

    Oh, no. Now there's someone _else_ named Roger Williams.
    In addition to the New England Christian minister who is most famous for >>> founding Rhode Island, and the famous pianist.
    Ah, Wikipedia tells me that the pianist's real name was Louis Jacob
    Weertz. I guess he, or his agent, or his label, felt that a less
    foreign-sounding name was needed for him to succeed commercially. Not
    that it matters, because it's still confusing.

    There's a fourth one - a Texas congressman who is the chairman of the
    House committee on small business.

    John Savard

    The U.S. has 3,376 by the name of Roger Williams, according to https://futureboy.us/fsp/namefreq.fsp
    Canada presumably scales accordingly.

    That site gives "java.io.FileNotFoundException" for my name.

    pt

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