On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 08:46:40 +0100, Jerry Brown wrote:

"Having a no-smoking area in a restaurant is like having a
no-pissing area in a swimming pool"

Public pools get worse, sometimes: try a cryptosporidium outbreak
which requires the entire pool to be shut down while they try to
figure out how to clean it out. It?s chlorine-resistant, I believe.

ObOldSmokerJoke: One friend asks another why the latter doesn?t
give up smoking.

Friend B: ?Suppose your doctor told you you have three years to live
if you don?t give up smoking.?
Friend A: ?But I don?t smoke!?
Friend B: ?Exactly! You have nothing in reserve!?

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On Fri, 21 Aug 2026 17:20:13 -0400, William Hyde wrote:

British style pubs in Toronto were particularly bad in the winter.
Your coat, scarf, gloves and had would stink of smoke for days, and
there wasn't much you could do about it (I think I had two scarves,
though). In the summer you could change completely.

NASA?s Apollo Mission Control was full of smokers during its operating lifetime. I think an Ars Technica article on the restoration mentions
some of the ... deposits ... they found when opening things up ...

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In article <117ghnu$1aonh$2@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Aug 2026 17:20:13 -0400, William Hyde wrote:

British style pubs in Toronto were particularly bad in the winter.
Your coat, scarf, gloves and had would stink of smoke for days, and
there wasn't much you could do about it (I think I had two scarves,
though). In the summer you could change completely.

NASA?s Apollo Mission Control was full of smokers during its operating >lifetime. I think an Ars Technica article on the restoration mentions
some of the ... deposits ... they found when opening things up ...

My parents were chain-smokers. When my mother died, so much tar had
built up in the surface of her kitchen cabinets, they started seeping
a blood-like substance.


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On 9/5/26 3:52 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:

On Fri, 21 Aug 2026 17:20:13 -0400, William Hyde wrote:

British style pubs in Toronto were particularly bad in the winter.
Your coat, scarf, gloves and had would stink of smoke for days, and
there wasn't much you could do about it (I think I had two scarves,
though). In the summer you could change completely.

NASA?s Apollo Mission Control was full of smokers during its operating lifetime. I think an Ars Technica article on the restoration mentions
some of the ... deposits ... they found when opening things up ...

Oh yes. A friend of mine worked at JSC for many years. I visited him
once shortly after they had upgraded Mission Control, and he took me on
a "behind the scenes" tour of the whole facility. The computers,
consoles, furniture, etc from the old Mission Control hadn't been
removed yet. He walked me through the storage, and once he started
pointing out the numerous cigarette burns, yellowed plastic covers, etc
etc etc. you could see the effects everywhere.

Tony

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On Sat, 5 Sep 2026 12:59:18 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:

In article <117ghnu$1aonh$2@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Aug 2026 17:20:13 -0400, William Hyde wrote:

British style pubs in Toronto were particularly bad in the winter.
Your coat, scarf, gloves and had would stink of smoke for days, and
there wasn't much you could do about it (I think I had two scarves,
though). In the summer you could change completely.

NASA?s Apollo Mission Control was full of smokers during its

operating

lifetime. I think an Ars Technica article on the restoration mentions
some of the ... deposits ... they found when opening things up ...

My parents were chain-smokers. When my mother died, so much tar had
built up in the surface of her kitchen cabinets, they started seeping
a blood-like substance.

Somehow, the phrase "the walls wept blood" crept into my mind when I
read that.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 08:46:40 +0100, Jerry Brown wrote:

"Having a no-smoking area in a restaurant is like having a
no-pissing area in a swimming pool"

Public pools get worse, sometimes: try a cryptosporidium outbreak
which requires the entire pool to be shut down while they try to
figure out how to clean it out. It?s chlorine-resistant, I believe.

Commercial pools will actually be closed to swimming if someone throws
an unwrapped baby ruth candy bar in the pool[*]

[*] Once popularized by Bill Murray, I've seen it happen in real life.

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