?The Princess and the Pea?
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating
buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can
control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea
Lynn
On 2026-07-15 19:45:48 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
?The Princess and the Pea?
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating
buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can
control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea >>
Lynn
I wouldn't waste your money. I know quite a few people who bought those
and the beds are always breaking down. Just as with cars, the more >electronic gimmickry that is added, the more there is to go wrong and
more expensive to fix.
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 19:45:48 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
?The Princess and the Pea?
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating
buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can
control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea >>>
Lynn
I wouldn't waste your money. I know quite a few people who bought those
and the beds are always breaking down. Just as with cars, the more
electronic gimmickry that is added, the more there is to go wrong and
more expensive to fix.
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 19:45:48 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
?The Princess and the Pea?
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating
buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can
control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea >>>>
Lynn
I wouldn't waste your money. I know quite a few people who bought those
and the beds are always breaking down. Just as with cars, the more
electronic gimmickry that is added, the more there is to go wrong and
more expensive to fix.
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
Nope. Waterbeds are awful as well, especially if you get seasick easily!
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars,
they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing
equipment just to get in and out of the bed. :-\
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 19:45:48 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
?The Princess and the Pea??
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating
buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can
control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
those
Lynn
I wouldn't waste your money. I know quite a few people who bought
and the beds are always breaking down. Just as with cars, the more
electronic gimmickry that is added, the more there is to go wrong and
more expensive to fix.
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
Nope. Waterbeds are awful as well, especially if you get seasick easily!
Just get a *normal* bed with none of the gimmickry. Even when my father
had health problems that required the bed to be raised at one end, he
just stuck a couple of bricks under the feet of his normal bed. :-)
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars,
they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing
equipment just to get in and out of the bed. :-\
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 19:45:48 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
ƒ??The Princess and the Peaƒ??
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating
buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can
control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/
index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea
Lynn
I wouldn't waste your money. I know quite a few people who bought those
and the beds are always breaking down. Just as with cars, the more
electronic gimmickry that is added, the more there is to go wrong and
more expensive to fix.
Yeah.ÿ Get a waterbed.ÿ Always perfect sleeping temperature.
Nope. Waterbeds are awful as well, especially if you get seasick easily!
Just get a *normal* bed with none of the gimmickry. Even when my father
had health problems that required the bed to be raised at one end, he
just stuck a couple of bricks under the feet of his normal bed.ÿ :-)
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars, they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing equipment
just to get in and out of the bed.ÿ :-\
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
Nope. Waterbeds are awful as well, especially if you get seasick easily!
You clearly haven't used one. A fully baffled waterbed has
very little movement.
I've used one every night since 1983.
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars,
they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing
equipment just to get in and out of the bed. :-\
Another advantage of waterbeds.
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 19:45:48 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
?The Princess and the Pea?
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating
buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can
control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea >>>>>
Lynn
I wouldn't waste your money. I know quite a few people who bought those >>>> and the beds are always breaking down. Just as with cars, the more
electronic gimmickry that is added, the more there is to go wrong and
more expensive to fix.
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
Nope. Waterbeds are awful as well, especially if you get seasick easily!
You clearly haven't used one. A fully baffled waterbed has
very little movement.
I've used one every night since 1983.
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars,
they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing
equipment just to get in and out of the bed. :-\
Another advantage of waterbeds.
On 7/16/2026 10:23 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
You either have a heater or a very thick topper. Your body can bring an >area of a room-temperature mattress up to a comfortable point. No
chance of doing that with fifty or so cubic feet of water.
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars,
they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing
equipment just to get in and out of the bed. :-\
Another advantage of waterbeds.
Our water mattress is in a liner within a homemade frame sitting on the >floor. (We use a thick topper.) No climbing required; unfortunately my >spouse has developed age-related wrist issues and no longer should be >stressing them in the way required to get up and out in the morning.
Time, sadly, to get a conventional bed.
On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 18:59:34 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 19:45:48 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
ƒ??The Princess and the Peaƒ??
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating
buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can
control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea >>>>>
Lynn
I wouldn't waste your money. I know quite a few people who bought those >>>> and the beds are always breaking down. Just as with cars, the more
electronic gimmickry that is added, the more there is to go wrong and
more expensive to fix.
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
Nope. Waterbeds are awful as well, especially if you get seasick easily!
Just get a *normal* bed with none of the gimmickry. Even when my father
had health problems that required the bed to be raised at one end, he
just stuck a couple of bricks under the feet of his normal bed. :-)
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars,
they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing
equipment just to get in and out of the bed. :-\
Perhaps a short but sturdy ladder would help.
?The Princess and the Pea?
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 14:45:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
?The Princess and the Pea?
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
Just occurred to me: he shows variations on the number of mattresses
and number of peas ... but not number of princesses.
On Wed, 15 Jul 2026 14:45:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
?The Princess and the Pea?
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
Just occurred to me: he shows variations on the number of mattresses
and number of peas ... but not number of princesses.
Mark Jackson <mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
<snip>
Our water mattress is in a liner within a homemade frame sitting on the >floor. (We use a thick topper.) No climbing required; unfortunately my >spouse has developed age-related wrist issues and no longer should be >stressing them in the way required to get up and out in the morning.
Time, sadly, to get a conventional bed.
My waterbed (Cal King) frame with liner is 18" from the floor. The
guest bedroom standard box spring+mattress (Queen) is 31" from the
floor. At 195cm, the guest bed is a bit easier to access, but less comfortable to sleep on, particularly on warm summer nights.
On 7/16/2026 10:23 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
You either have a heater or a very thick topper. Your body can bring an
area of a room-temperature mattress up to a comfortable point. Noeasily!
chance of doing that with fifty or so cubic feet of water.
Nope. Waterbeds are awful as well, especially if you get seasick
You clearly haven't used one. A fully baffled waterbed has
very little movement.
I've used one every night since 1983.
Except for four years living either in France or a fourth-floor
apartment in Ithaca we've used one every night at home since 1970.
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars,
they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing
equipment just to get in and out of the bed. :-\
Another advantage of waterbeds.
Our water mattress is in a liner within a homemade frame sitting on the >floor. (We use a thick topper.) No climbing required; unfortunately my
spouse has developed age-related wrist issues and no longer should be >stressing them in the way required to get up and out in the morning.
Time, sadly, to get a conventional bed.
On 7/16/2026 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:those
On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 18:59:34 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 19:45:48 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
?The Princess and the Pea??
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating >>>>>> buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can
control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea >>>>>>
Lynn
I wouldn't waste your money. I know quite a few people who bought
andand the beds are always breaking down. Just as with cars, the more
electronic gimmickry that is added, the more there is to go wrong
easily!more expensive to fix.
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
Nope. Waterbeds are awful as well, especially if you get seasick
father
Just get a *normal* bed with none of the gimmickry. Even when my
had health problems that required the bed to be raised at one end, he
just stuck a couple of bricks under the feet of his normal bed. :-)
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars,
they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing
equipment just to get in and out of the bed. :-\
Perhaps a short but sturdy ladder would help.
I have one for my dog when she gets older. It is a holdover from my
last dog who had severe arthritis at 15 and 16 years.
The ladder will not work for humans though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CGYE0IQ
On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 14:43:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/16/2026 10:46 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 18:59:34 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:
On 2026-07-15 21:35:01 +0000, Scott Lurndal said:
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> writes:
On 2026-07-15 19:45:48 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
ƒ??The Princess and the Peaƒ??
https://www.xkcd.com/3271/
I was thinking about this just the other day as I am contemplating >>>>>>> buying the wife and I a pair of those electric beds where you can >>>>>>> control the elevation and the firmness.
Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/3271:_The_Princess_and_the_Pea
Lynn
I wouldn't waste your money. I know quite a few people who bought those >>>>>> and the beds are always breaking down. Just as with cars, the more >>>>>> electronic gimmickry that is added, the more there is to go wrong and >>>>>> more expensive to fix.
Yeah. Get a waterbed. Always perfect sleeping temperature.
Nope. Waterbeds are awful as well, especially if you get seasick easily! >>>>
Just get a *normal* bed with none of the gimmickry. Even when my father >>>> had health problems that required the bed to be raised at one end, he
just stuck a couple of bricks under the feet of his normal bed. :-)
The biggest problem with normal beds these days is that, like cars,
they tend to be stupidly over-sized ... you need mountain climbing
equipment just to get in and out of the bed. :-\
Perhaps a short but sturdy ladder would help.
I have one for my dog when she gets older. It is a holdover from my
last dog who had severe arthritis at 15 and 16 years.
The ladder will not work for humans though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CGYE0IQ
Although I didn't see quite what I was looking for, there /are/ such
ladders for mobile homes. <https://www.amazon.com/FEHOKINCH-Handrails-Heavy-Duty-Portable-Non-Slip/dp/B0G4PBH3B2/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=2PILQQEYI550Z&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Zma-Hoh1XF1WSbPxwAzZoTZ4eRI1adCVz-hGSnDtrOFYJ2V1r4z0YJSkNMqF7xNaBHRPIXKvRe2vKSWUSUDIDlxSVop9wsnQKHBJxAsvT75RRpF2c_FRKihB-COmTG9n1_Lesbebo9iIuTBAZT6rpV10CCehUtAuDzblgK8WRFVUUzg7JKx7HT5STQrm8r5s_lkAZXYKfoEvyHWtyxSL171qk7TxkGlykjfYiXIE9f_oWUt960BZB0nAaRlWvGlUlquROQ6r-uvJviAoqhokwMqH02zqvnwR84X4ZHmAlM4.KL7s-RUU3ezKXanIUz7MvbEiz7c3933v23V5zGIyINc&dib_tag=se&keywords=mobile%2Bhome%2Bstep%2Bladder&qid=1784304086&sprefix=mobile%2Bhome%2Bstep%2Bladder%2Caps%2C237&sr=8-4-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1>
Ok, ok it looks a bit ... industrial and has a dog on it, but the info
lists "bunk beds" as a possible use. It should work with a single (ie,
not bunk) bed that requires mountain-climbing gear to get into.
And there are many others out there.
On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 14:43:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
I have one for my dog when she gets older. It is a holdover from my=20 >>last dog who had severe arthritis at 15 and 16 years.
The ladder will not work for humans though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CGYE0IQ
Although I didn't see quite what I was looking for, there /are/ such
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2026 14:43:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
I have one for my dog when she gets older. It is a holdover from
p/=last dog who had severe arthritis at 15 and 16 years.
The ladder will not work for humans though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CGYE0IQ
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