• Re: [Meta] Much shorter trips to Mars

    From Default User@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 09, 2026 22:39:10
    Cryptoengineer wrote:

    I took a quick look at both articles, and still have no idea as to how
    the faster trip is obtained, and what observing asteroids have to do
    with it.


    Who else thought it would involve hitching a ride on an asteroid going
    your way?


    Brian

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  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 09, 2026 21:16:57
    On 7/9/2026 6:39 PM, Default User wrote:
    Cryptoengineer wrote:

    I took a quick look at both articles, and still have no idea as to how
    the faster trip is obtained, and what observing asteroids have to do
    with it.

    It involves developing much more powerful rockets, IIRC.


    Who else thought it would involve hitching a ride on an asteroid going
    your way?


    Brian


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  • From Tony Nance@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, July 09, 2026 21:32:03
    On 7/9/26 9:16 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 7/9/2026 6:39 PM, Default User wrote:
    Cryptoengineer wrote:

    I took a quick look at both articles, and still have no idea as to how
    the faster trip is obtained, and what observing asteroids have to do
    with it.

    It involves developing much more powerful rockets, IIRC.


    It's new geometry/trajectories, and (in the case of the 2031 window
    mentioned below) not much different energy.

    The source article is located at/via https://doi.org/10.1016/j.actaastro.2026.04.018

    "...While the asteroid itself is not used as a physical waypoint, its
    early orbital plane serves as a geometric template that highlights
    structured rapid-transfer corridors within the 2031 opposition geometry.

    This case study illustrates how the well-defined plane geometry of a preliminary small-body orbit can be employed as a methodological
    screening tool for rapid interplanetary transfer identification. ..."

    and includes such early paragraphs as I'll cite below.
    Tony


    "Using short-way Lambert-based trajectory construction constrained to
    remain within of the CA21 orbital plane and high-fidelity JPL Horizons ephemerides, three Mars opposition windows (2027, 2029, and 2031) are analyzed. The 2031 opposition emerges as uniquely favorable under the CA21-plane constraint, yielding two outbound Earth Mars trajectories (33
    and 56 days) and corresponding dynamically consistent return legs
    forming complete round-trip architectures of approximately 153 and 226
    days total duration."

    "Sensitivity analysis demonstrates that these CA21-anchored solutions
    remain geometrically stable under controlled boundary-state
    perturbations, and Monte Carlo re-evaluation confirms numerical
    robustness of the Lambert construction. While the asteroid itself is not
    used as a physical waypoint, its early orbital plane serves as a
    geometric template that highlights structured rapid-transfer corridors
    within the 2031 opposition geometry."


    "To evaluate whether such preliminary geometry can guide transfer
    design, the study examines three Mars opposition windows, 2027, 2029,
    and 2031, under a CA21-anchored plane constraint. A three-dimensional
    Lambert solver [[3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]] is employed, with the transfer-plane normal constrained to remain within 5ø of the CA21 orbital-plane normal. Exact heliocentric state vectors obtained from
    NASA's JPL Horizons system [1,2] are used to evaluate trajectory
    feasibility and reconstruct daily ephemerides for dynamical consistency checks."

    "The analysis shows that while the 2027 and 2029 windows exhibit high energetic barriers and weak geometric alignment, the 2031 opposition
    provides symmetric outbound and inbound opportunities consistent with
    the CA21 reference plane. Within that window, two short-way Earth Mars trajectories are identified: a 33-day rapid case and a 56-day feasible
    case, each paired with dynamically coherent return legs to form complete Earth?Mars?Earth round-trip architectures."

    "This study provides a focused investigation into whether an early
    small-body orbital solution can serve as a geometric reference for
    exploring rapid Earth?Mars transfers [[3], [4], [5]]. Using the initial
    2015 JPL Horizons solution for 2001 CA21, the analysis demonstrates that
    its early orbital plane?despite later refinements?can support a
    constrained Lambert-based evaluation of short-duration opposition-class trajectories [[3], [4], [5]]. Within this framework, two complete Earth?Mars?Earth round-trip configurations are identified during the
    2031 window: a high-energy 33 + 30 + 90 day mission (÷153 days total)
    and a feasible 56 + 35 + 135 day mission (÷226 days total). Both are
    shown to be dynamically coherent through full ephemeris reconstruction
    using n-body JPL Horizons state vectors."





    Who else thought it would involve hitching a ride on an asteroid going
    your way?


    Brian



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