• "Not That Kind of Good Guy (Shadow's Path)" by John Ringo

    From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 01, 2026 14:20:48
    "Not That Kind of Good Guy (Shadow's Path)" by John Ringo
    https://www.amazon.com/That-Kind-Good-Shadows-Path/dp/1668073390

    Book number one of a three book science fiction dark fantasy series. I
    read the well printed and well bound MMPB published by Baen in 2026 that
    I bought from Amazon in 2025. I am eagerly awaiting the second MMPB
    book that comes out in September 2026. And the third book in hardback
    will be out soon also.

    Michael Edwards is 13 year old 5'10" genius white guy who grew up in Baltimore's ghetto with a Black 6'4" trans mother prostitute after his
    real mother was brutally murdered in an alley. He and the MS-13 gang
    are having running gun battles after he supposedly slighted them. When
    the MS-13 tried to murder him, he became one of Earth's 300+ Super
    Heroes with invulnerability and an Earth mover. But, Michael is just
    not that kind of a good guy. He lives by the motto: "Big boys don't
    cry, don't snitch, and always get revenge." Michael also views himself
    as a warrior for God and gets frequent help and direction from the
    secret Gondola society whose mission is to destroy child trafficking
    across the entire world.

    I loved this book. It pushes many of my buttons and beliefs. And the
    Super Heroes are fairly goofy and hard not to like. And the villains,
    of whom there are many, are disgusting and easy to dislike. And I like
    the fact that Michael is part Native American since my wife is part
    Cherokee.

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.6 out of 5 stars (1,239 reviews)

    Lynn


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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 07:58:33
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 15:53:19
    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    Lynn


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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 21:15:05
    On Mon, 6 Jul 2026 15:53:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:

    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    I imagine you?ll be ... Beatling about finding more books by him, then
    ...

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  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 22:15:22
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    You sound like a third-grader.

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  • From oldernow@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 22:26:55
    On 2026-07-06, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    You sound like a third-grader.

    That has fourth grader written all over it.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 17:27:55
    On 7/6/2026 5:15 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    You sound like a third-grader.

    Ah, the school yard bully shows up.

    Lynn


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  • From WolfFan@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 18:41:26
    On Jul 6, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <112h4jv$2cace$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    Lynn

    Yep, the reference went right over his head. Which seems to be made of Norwegian wood.


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  • From WolfFan@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 18:43:27
    On Jul 6, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <112ha5b$2e8o0$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 7/6/2026 5:15 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    You sound like a third-grader.

    Ah, the school yard bully shows up.

    Lynn

    Ooh, boy. Lynn, m?man, it?s usually a good idea to _stop_ digging when
    you hit rock-bottom.


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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 18:45:02
    WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Jul 6, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <112h4jv$2cace$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    Lynn

    Yep, the reference went right over his head. Which seems to be made of >Norwegian wood.

    It won't be long now, yeah.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From WolfFan@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 18:45:05
    On Jul 1, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <1123pai$23ek5$1@dont-email.me>):

    "Not That Kind of Good Guy (Shadow's Path)" by John Ringo https://www.amazon.com/That-Kind-Good-Shadows-Path/dp/1668073390

    Book number one of a three book science fiction dark fantasy series. I
    read the well printed and well bound MMPB published by Baen in 2026 that
    I bought from Amazon in 2025. I am eagerly awaiting the second MMPB
    book that comes out in September 2026. And the third book in hardback
    will be out soon also.

    Michael Edwards is 13 year old 5'10" genius white guy who grew up in Baltimore's ghetto with a Black 6'4" trans mother prostitute after his
    real mother was brutally murdered in an alley. He and the MS-13 gang
    are having running gun battles after he supposedly slighted them. When
    the MS-13 tried to murder him, he became one of Earth's 300+ Super
    Heroes with invulnerability and an Earth mover. But, Michael is just
    not that kind of a good guy. He lives by the motto: "Big boys don't
    cry, don't snitch, and always get revenge." Michael also views himself
    as a warrior for God and gets frequent help and direction from the
    secret Gondola society whose mission is to destroy child trafficking
    across the entire world.

    He?s on a Mission From God, eh? Is it dark and is he wearing sunglasses?


    I loved this book. It pushes many of my buttons and beliefs. And the
    Super Heroes are fairly goofy and hard not to like. And the villains,
    of whom there are many, are disgusting and easy to dislike. And I like
    the fact that Michael is part Native American since my wife is part
    Cherokee.

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.6 out of 5 stars (1,239 reviews)

    Lynn



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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 17:49:26
    On 7/1/2026 2:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "Not That Kind of Good Guy (Shadow's Path)" by John Ringo
    ˙˙ https://www.amazon.com/That-Kind-Good-Shadows-Path/dp/1668073390

    Book number one of a three book science fiction dark fantasy series.˙ I
    read the well printed and well bound MMPB published by Baen in 2026 that
    I bought from Amazon in 2025.˙ I am eagerly awaiting the second MMPB
    book that comes out in September 2026.˙ And the third book in hardback
    will be out soon also.

    Michael Edwards is 13 year old 5'10" genius white guy who grew up in Baltimore's ghetto with a Black 6'4" trans mother prostitute after his
    real mother was brutally murdered in an alley.˙ He and the MS-13 gang
    are having running gun battles after he supposedly slighted them.˙ When
    the MS-13 tried to murder him, he became one of Earth's 300+ Super
    Heroes with invulnerability and an Earth mover.˙ But, Michael is just
    not that kind of a good guy.˙ He lives by the motto: "Big boys don't
    cry, don't snitch, and always get revenge."˙ Michael also views himself
    as a warrior for God and gets frequent help and direction from the
    secret Gondola society whose mission is to destroy child trafficking
    across the entire world.

    I loved this book.˙ It pushes many of my buttons and beliefs.˙ And the
    Super Heroes are fairly goofy and hard not to like.˙ And the villains,
    of whom there are many, are disgusting and easy to dislike.˙ And I like
    the fact that Michael is part Native American since my wife is part Cherokee.

    My rating:˙ 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating:˙ 4.6 out of 5 stars (1,239 reviews)

    Lynn

    Dadgumit, I forgot the dedication:

    "As always"

    "For Captain Tamara Long, USAF"

    "Born: May 12, 1979"

    "Died: 23 March 2003, Afghanistan"

    "You fly with the angels now."

    Lynn


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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 17:51:03
    On 7/6/2026 5:45 PM, WolfFan wrote:
    On Jul 1, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <1123pai$23ek5$1@dont-email.me>):

    "Not That Kind of Good Guy (Shadow's Path)" by John Ringo
    https://www.amazon.com/That-Kind-Good-Shadows-Path/dp/1668073390

    Book number one of a three book science fiction dark fantasy series. I
    read the well printed and well bound MMPB published by Baen in 2026 that
    I bought from Amazon in 2025. I am eagerly awaiting the second MMPB
    book that comes out in September 2026. And the third book in hardback
    will be out soon also.

    Michael Edwards is 13 year old 5'10" genius white guy who grew up in
    Baltimore's ghetto with a Black 6'4" trans mother prostitute after his
    real mother was brutally murdered in an alley. He and the MS-13 gang
    are having running gun battles after he supposedly slighted them. When
    the MS-13 tried to murder him, he became one of Earth's 300+ Super
    Heroes with invulnerability and an Earth mover. But, Michael is just
    not that kind of a good guy. He lives by the motto: "Big boys don't
    cry, don't snitch, and always get revenge." Michael also views himself
    as a warrior for God and gets frequent help and direction from the
    secret Gondola society whose mission is to destroy child trafficking
    across the entire world.

    He?s on a Mission From God, eh? Is it dark and is he wearing sunglasses?


    I loved this book. It pushes many of my buttons and beliefs. And the
    Super Heroes are fairly goofy and hard not to like. And the villains,
    of whom there are many, are disgusting and easy to dislike. And I like
    the fact that Michael is part Native American since my wife is part
    Cherokee.

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.6 out of 5 stars (1,239 reviews)

    Lynn

    Read the book and answer your question.

    Lynn


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  • From WolfFan@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 19:00:05
    On Jul 6, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <112hbgn$2ekse$2@dont-email.me>):

    On 7/6/2026 5:45 PM, WolfFan wrote:
    On Jul 1, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <1123pai$23ek5$1@dont-email.me>):

    "Not That Kind of Good Guy (Shadow's Path)" by John Ringo https://www.amazon.com/That-Kind-Good-Shadows-Path/dp/1668073390

    Book number one of a three book science fiction dark fantasy series. I read the well printed and well bound MMPB published by Baen in 2026 that I bought from Amazon in 2025. I am eagerly awaiting the second MMPB
    book that comes out in September 2026. And the third book in hardback will be out soon also.

    Michael Edwards is 13 year old 5'10" genius white guy who grew up in Baltimore's ghetto with a Black 6'4" trans mother prostitute after his real mother was brutally murdered in an alley. He and the MS-13 gang
    are having running gun battles after he supposedly slighted them. When the MS-13 tried to murder him, he became one of Earth's 300+ Super
    Heroes with invulnerability and an Earth mover. But, Michael is just
    not that kind of a good guy. He lives by the motto: "Big boys don't
    cry, don't snitch, and always get revenge." Michael also views himself
    as a warrior for God and gets frequent help and direction from the
    secret Gondola society whose mission is to destroy child trafficking across the entire world.

    He?s on a Mission From God, eh? Is it dark and is he wearing sunglasses?


    I loved this book. It pushes many of my buttons and beliefs. And the Super Heroes are fairly goofy and hard not to like. And the villains,
    of whom there are many, are disgusting and easy to dislike. And I like the fact that Michael is part Native American since my wife is part Cherokee.

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.6 out of 5 stars (1,239 reviews)

    Lynn

    Read the book and answer your question.

    Lynn

    And... not only are you clueless about music, you don?t know movies either.

    I haven?t read any Ringo for A Very Long Time. I wouldn?t read any Ringo
    ever again unless I was very well paid to do so. Ringo appears to be a fascist, bigotted, islamaphobe, ammosexual nutcase. Almost as bad as Kratman. The fact that you defend his bullshit with such vigor says volumes about you, none of it good.


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  • From oldernow@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 23:48:51
    On 2026-07-06, Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
    On Jul 6, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <112h4jv$2cace$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    Lynn

    Yep, the reference went right over his head. Which seems to be made of >>Norwegian wood.

    It won't be long now, yeah.

    There are newsgroups I remember.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 17:37:15
    On 7/6/2026 4:00 PM, WolfFan wrote:
    On Jul 6, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <112hbgn$2ekse$2@dont-email.me>):

    On 7/6/2026 5:45 PM, WolfFan wrote:
    On Jul 1, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <1123pai$23ek5$1@dont-email.me>):

    "Not That Kind of Good Guy (Shadow's Path)" by John Ringo
    https://www.amazon.com/That-Kind-Good-Shadows-Path/dp/1668073390

    Book number one of a three book science fiction dark fantasy series. I >>>> read the well printed and well bound MMPB published by Baen in 2026 that >>>> I bought from Amazon in 2025. I am eagerly awaiting the second MMPB
    book that comes out in September 2026. And the third book in hardback
    will be out soon also.

    Michael Edwards is 13 year old 5'10" genius white guy who grew up in
    Baltimore's ghetto with a Black 6'4" trans mother prostitute after his >>>> real mother was brutally murdered in an alley. He and the MS-13 gang
    are having running gun battles after he supposedly slighted them. When >>>> the MS-13 tried to murder him, he became one of Earth's 300+ Super
    Heroes with invulnerability and an Earth mover. But, Michael is just
    not that kind of a good guy. He lives by the motto: "Big boys don't
    cry, don't snitch, and always get revenge." Michael also views himself >>>> as a warrior for God and gets frequent help and direction from the
    secret Gondola society whose mission is to destroy child trafficking
    across the entire world.

    He?s on a Mission From God, eh? Is it dark and is he wearing sunglasses? >>>>

    I loved this book. It pushes many of my buttons and beliefs. And the
    Super Heroes are fairly goofy and hard not to like. And the villains,
    of whom there are many, are disgusting and easy to dislike. And I like >>>> the fact that Michael is part Native American since my wife is part
    Cherokee.

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating: 4.6 out of 5 stars (1,239 reviews)

    Lynn

    Read the book and answer your question.

    Lynn

    And... not only are you clueless about music, you don?t know movies either.

    I haven?t read any Ringo for A Very Long Time. I wouldn?t read any Ringo
    ever again unless I was very well paid to do so. Ringo appears to be a fascist, bigotted, islamaphobe, ammosexual nutcase. Almost as bad as Kratman. The fact that you defend his bullshit with such vigor says volumes about you, none of it good.

    You're late to the party if you are only now realizing this about Lynn.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 21:56:10
    On 7/6/2026 4:00 PM, WolfFan wrote:
    I haven't read any Ringo for A Very Long Time. I wouldn't read any Ringo
    ever again unless I was very well paid to do so. Ringo appears to be a
    fascist, bigotted, islamaphobe, ammosexual nutcase. Almost as bad as Kratman.
    The fact that you defend his bullshit with such vigor says volumes about you,
    none of it good.

    Ringo didn't used to be that way, but he gradually got more and more that
    way. Kratman started out that way. Kratman at least understands battle
    and tactics even if he doesn't necessarily get strategy, but he is quite definitely an "us against the world" sort.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 22:12:57
    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    You know, I have bought about 40 of John Ringo's 45 books over the last
    30 or 40 years.

    Somebody else bought the other seven million copies.

    Lynn


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  • From BobbieSellers@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 21:29:17
    On 7/6/26 20:12, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating:˙ 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    You know, I have bought about 40 of John Ringo's 45 books over the last
    30 or 40 years.

    Somebody else bought the other seven million copies.

    Lynn


    If you judge a book by the number of copies sold it
    is a wonder you ever read any Science Fiction. Back in the
    early 1950s I was not very popular as I was already devoted
    to the form.

    I will say nothing about Ringo, the author, but I
    prefer Eric Flint. Kage Baker, the Bears, Aaronovitch.
    your namesake Lynn McGuire, Lynsay Sands, Kim Harrison
    and others of the modern writers. I grew up with
    Heinlein, Bradbury, Asimov, Campbell, and others who
    helped form my tastes. They were paid lousy rates for
    their magazine work and sold few books but I bought
    them when money was not tight.

    Enjoy whatever it is you enjoy but don't tell
    us it is good because it sold well.



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  • From Robert Woodward@3:633/10 to All on Monday, July 06, 2026 21:52:49
    In article <0001HW.2FFC669600119ACD70000E5B638F@news.supernews.com>,
    WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:

    On Jul 6, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <112h4jv$2cace$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    Lynn

    Yep, the reference went right over his head. Which seems to be made of Norwegian wood.

    The book is also set in a world where all the QAnon ravings are true.

    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. ?-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 01:32:47
    On 7/6/2026 11:52 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <0001HW.2FFC669600119ACD70000E5B638F@news.supernews.com>,
    WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:

    On Jul 6, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <112h4jv$2cace$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating: 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    I dare you to read the book and argue with me then.

    Lynn

    Yep, the reference went right over his head. Which seems to be made of
    Norwegian wood.

    The book is also set in a world where all the QAnon ravings are true.

    I do not know what the QAnon ravings are so I cannot verify this.

    Have you read the book or are you just supposing this?

    Lynn


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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 01:42:07
    On 7/6/2026 11:29 PM, BobbieSellers wrote:
    On 7/6/26 20:12, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating:˙ 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    You know, I have bought about 40 of John Ringo's 45 books over the
    last 30 or 40 years.

    Somebody else bought the other seven million copies.

    Lynn


    ˙˙˙˙If you judge a book by the number of copies sold it
    is a wonder you ever read any Science Fiction. Back in the
    early 1950s I was not very popular as I was already devoted
    to the form.

    ˙˙˙˙I will say nothing about Ringo, the author, but I
    prefer Eric Flint. Kage Baker, the Bears, Aaronovitch.
    your namesake Lynn McGuire, Lynsay Sands, Kim Harrison
    and others of the modern writers. I grew up with
    Heinlein, Bradbury, Asimov, Campbell, and others who
    helped form my tastes. They were paid lousy rates for
    their magazine work and sold few books but I bought
    them when money was not tight.

    ˙˙˙˙Enjoy whatever it is you enjoy but don't tell
    us it is good because it sold well.

    I have read many of the science fiction and fantasy books by many of the authors that you state there.

    Please note that Seanan Lynn McGuire and I have very different first
    names while we have the same middle and last names. Seanan is seventeen
    years younger than me. I really enjoy her October Daye, Feed, and
    Incryptid fantasy books, the others I have not tried out.

    Please note that quantity is a quality all of its own. If you want
    scifi and fantasy to continue then we must have authors who are popular.
    Rowling, Heinlein, Weber, Ringo, Pournelle, Niven, and many others
    have done a great job of spreading the stories around the planet.

    Lynn


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  • From Tony Nance@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 06:40:34
    On 7/6/26 11:12 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/6/2026 2:58 AM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 14:20:48 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    My rating:˙ 5 out of 5 stars

    Good to have a star or two for a guy named Ringo.

    Trying to drum up support for him, are you?

    You know, I have bought about 40 of John Ringo's 45 books over the last
    30 or 40 years.

    Somebody else bought the other seven million copies.

    Lynn


    I may be wrong, but I think maybe you are missing that Lawrence is
    merely making puns involving Ringo Starr and the Beatles.

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  • From oldernow@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 11:46:12
    On 2026-07-07, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/6/2026 11:52 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    The book is also set in a world where all the
    QAnon ravings are true.

    I do not know what the QAnon ravings are so I
    cannot verify this.

    Have you read the book or are you just supposing
    this?

    Quick aside: it's always an immediate tell to me
    seeing someone raving about ravings.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 08:05:31
    In article <slrn114ppo3.f6c.oldernow@oldernow.jethrick.com>,
    oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/6/2026 11:52 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    The book is also set in a world where all the
    QAnon ravings are true.

    I do not know what the QAnon ravings are so I
    cannot verify this.

    Have you read the book or are you just supposing
    this?

    Quick aside: it's always an immediate tell to me
    seeing someone raving about ravings.

    Neither one of you seem to have noticed that this entire thread is about
    Ringo Starr puns.
    --scott

    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 14:37:13
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    On 7/6/2026 4:00 PM, WolfFan wrote:
    I haven't read any Ringo for A Very Long Time. I wouldn't read any Ringo >>> ever again unless I was very well paid to do so. Ringo appears to be a
    fascist, bigotted, islamaphobe, ammosexual nutcase. Almost as bad as Kratman.
    The fact that you defend his bullshit with such vigor says volumes about you,
    none of it good.

    Ringo didn't used to be that way, but he gradually got more and more that >way. Kratman started out that way. Kratman at least understands battle
    and tactics even if he doesn't necessarily get strategy, but he is quite >definitely an "us against the world" sort.

    Kratman was pissed off that he didn't get his regiment, and he can't
    figure out why. His books are not my cuppa.

    After reading Ringo's _Cally's War_ trilogy (which starts with a rather horrific rape scene[*] and ends with rabid stupidity because nobody
    talks to their relatives), I haven't been tempted to try anything
    else by the author.


    [*] A more graphic ripoff of the scene in _Friday_.

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 13:31:04
    On 7/7/2026 7:05 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <slrn114ppo3.f6c.oldernow@oldernow.jethrick.com>,
    oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/6/2026 11:52 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    The book is also set in a world where all the
    QAnon ravings are true.

    I do not know what the QAnon ravings are so I
    cannot verify this.

    Have you read the book or are you just supposing
    this?

    Quick aside: it's always an immediate tell to me
    seeing someone raving about ravings.

    Neither one of you seem to have noticed that this entire thread is about Ringo Starr puns.
    --scott

    I noticed after a few postings. You have to be blatant about things for
    me to notice nowadays as I am seriously time slicing between helping my
    84 year old mother and my four businesses. I was really hoping to slow
    down in life at this point but does not seem to be that way. Converting
    my engineering software calculation engine from 800,000 lines of Fortran
    to C++ is occupying about 110% of my shrinking mind.

    Lynn


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  • From oldernow@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 14:31:46
    On 2026-07-07, Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <slrn114ppo3.f6c.oldernow@oldernow.jethrick.com>,
    oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/6/2026 11:52 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    The book is also set in a world where all the
    QAnon ravings are true.

    I do not know what the QAnon ravings are so I
    cannot verify this.

    Have you read the book or are you just supposing
    this?

    Quick aside: it's always an immediate tell to me
    seeing someone raving about ravings.

    Neither one of you seem to have noticed that
    this entire thread is about Ringo Starr puns.

    oldernow included? Simply by waxing humorous on
    the theme of ravers raving about other ravers'
    ravings?

    oldernow is likely the biggest Beatles fan in
    this newsgroup, so the very first thing oldernow
    wanted to say upon seeing the word 'Ringo' was
    that there is only one Ringo, and others using
    the name should be prosecuted to the fullest
    extent of applicable law.

    So of *course* oldernow noticed the joking. It's
    just that most of it seemed lame, and far be
    it from oldernow to point out when others are
    being lame.... ;-)

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  • From oldernow@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 14:33:37
    On 2026-07-07, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    I noticed after a few postings. You have to
    be blatant about things for me to notice
    nowadays as I am seriously time slicing
    between helping my 84 year old mother and
    my four businesses. I was really hoping to
    slow down in life at this point but does not
    seem to be that way. Converting my engineering
    software calculation engine from 800,000 lines
    of Fortran to C++ is occupying about 110%
    of my shrinking mind.

    Wow! That sounds even more arduous
    than discussing politics with morons in
    rec.arts.sf.written! :-)

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  • From BCFD 36@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 11:57:39
    On 7/1/26 12:20, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    "Not That Kind of Good Guy (Shadow's Path)" by John Ringo
    ˙˙ https://www.amazon.com/That-Kind-Good-Shadows-Path/dp/1668073390

    Book number one of a three book science fiction dark fantasy series.˙ I
    read the well printed and well bound MMPB published by Baen in 2026 that
    I bought from Amazon in 2025.˙ I am eagerly awaiting the second MMPB
    book that comes out in September 2026.˙ And the third book in hardback
    will be out soon also.

    Michael Edwards is 13 year old 5'10" genius white guy who grew up in Baltimore's ghetto with a Black 6'4" trans mother prostitute after his
    real mother was brutally murdered in an alley.˙ He and the MS-13 gang
    are having running gun battles after he supposedly slighted them.˙ When
    the MS-13 tried to murder him, he became one of Earth's 300+ Super
    Heroes with invulnerability and an Earth mover.˙ But, Michael is just
    not that kind of a good guy.˙ He lives by the motto: "Big boys don't
    cry, don't snitch, and always get revenge."˙ Michael also views himself
    as a warrior for God and gets frequent help and direction from the
    secret Gondola society whose mission is to destroy child trafficking
    across the entire world.

    I loved this book.˙ It pushes many of my buttons and beliefs.˙ And the
    Super Heroes are fairly goofy and hard not to like.˙ And the villains,
    of whom there are many, are disgusting and easy to dislike.˙ And I like
    the fact that Michael is part Native American since my wife is part Cherokee.

    My rating:˙ 5 out of 5 stars
    Amazon rating:˙ 4.6 out of 5 stars (1,239 reviews)

    Lynn

    So after reading the entire thread, it becomes clear that no one who
    responded has actually read the book. Is that the case? If someone did
    read it, what was YOUR take? The premise sounds intriguing, but I can
    see where it might go off the rails into neo-fascism quite easily.

    I did appreciate the puns, but I missed the "drum up" initially. It was subtle. Obviously Lynn and some of the more rabid members here missed it entirely and decided to go defensive (Lynn) or full asshole (others).

    Does anyone else hate Illinois Nazis? (a reference to the 2nd pun for
    those too thick/rabid/reactionary to get it)

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    ----------------

    Dave Scruggs
    Senior Software Engineer - Lockheed Martin, et. al (mostly Retired)
    Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
    Board of Directors - Boulder Creek Fire Protection District (What was I thinking?)

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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 14:40:39
    On 7/8/2026 9:31 AM, oldernow wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <slrn114ppo3.f6c.oldernow@oldernow.jethrick.com>,
    oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/6/2026 11:52 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
    The book is also set in a world where all the
    QAnon ravings are true.

    I do not know what the QAnon ravings are so I
    cannot verify this.

    Have you read the book or are you just supposing
    this?

    Quick aside: it's always an immediate tell to me
    seeing someone raving about ravings.

    Neither one of you seem to have noticed that
    this entire thread is about Ringo Starr puns.

    oldernow included? Simply by waxing humorous on
    the theme of ravers raving about other ravers'
    ravings?

    oldernow is likely the biggest Beatles fan in
    this newsgroup, so the very first thing oldernow
    wanted to say upon seeing the word 'Ringo' was
    that there is only one Ringo, and others using
    the name should be prosecuted to the fullest
    extent of applicable law.

    So of *course* oldernow noticed the joking. It's
    just that most of it seemed lame, and far be
    it from oldernow to point out when others are
    being lame.... ;-)

    Yeah, Johnny Ringo was a really nasty guy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Ringo

    Lynn


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  • From Lynn McGuire@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 18:50:40
    On 7/8/2026 9:33 AM, oldernow wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    I noticed after a few postings. You have to
    be blatant about things for me to notice
    nowadays as I am seriously time slicing
    between helping my 84 year old mother and
    my four businesses. I was really hoping to
    slow down in life at this point but does not
    seem to be that way. Converting my engineering
    software calculation engine from 800,000 lines
    of Fortran to C++ is occupying about 110%
    of my shrinking mind.

    Wow! That sounds even more arduous
    than discussing politics with morons in
    rec.arts.sf.written! :-)

    I am over a quarter done with my Fortran to C++ conversion and going to
    hit the next testing phase soon, I hope. More and more code keeps on
    popping up as unknown symbols in the link. I can generally convert
    about 2,000 lines of code a day before I burn out for the day.

    Lynn


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  • From Cryptoengineer@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 21:22:22
    On 7/8/2026 7:50 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 7/8/2026 9:33 AM, oldernow wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    I noticed after a few postings. You have to
    be blatant about things for me to notice
    nowadays as I am seriously time slicing
    between helping my 84 year old mother and
    my four businesses. I was really hoping to
    slow down in life at this point but does not
    seem to be that way. Converting my engineering
    software calculation engine from 800,000 lines
    of Fortran to C++ is occupying about 110%
    of my shrinking mind.

    Wow! That sounds even more arduous
    than discussing politics with morons in
    rec.arts.sf.written! :-)

    I am over a quarter done with my Fortran to C++ conversion and going to
    hit the next testing phase soon, I hope.˙ More and more code keeps on popping up as unknown symbols in the link.˙ I can generally convert
    about 2,000 lines of code a day before I burn out for the day.

    Lynn


    What process do you use? Mark 1 eyeball and an SDE? Conversion tools?
    AI? I've heard mixed results for the latter.

    Do you have to convert unit tests too?

    pt

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