?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over-iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators,
journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's
decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The
same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide
support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in
that country."

"The blunt fact of the matter is that for almost half a century, the
West has wrung its hands, expressed dismay and shock, and uttered pious platitudes every time Iran did something evil.ÿ Whether it was murdering
tens of thousands of their own citizens, or exporting terrorism to many
parts of the world, or bombing Israel, nothing Iran did elicited a
suitably strong response from the West.ÿ All they did was talk.ÿ They
did not act.ÿ With every incident, they kicked the can further down the
road, for future politicians and leaders to do something about it - but
they never did."

"President Trump and his leadership team recognized that the can could
not be kicked any further.ÿ The time had come to act, to stop Iran
potentially wreaking havoc all over the world.ÿ The key moment of
decision probably came during negotiations in Switzerland in late February."

https://nypost.com/2026/03/03/us-news/iran-claimed-to-have-enough-uranium-for-11-nuclear-bombs-during-geneva-talks-us-envoy-witkoff-says/

"Iranian officials told their US counterparts during crunch talks last
month that the Islamic Republic possessed enough enriched fuel to build
11 nuclear bombs, President Trump?s special envoy claimed Monday night."

"?Both the Iranian negotiators said to us directly with, you know, no
shame, that they controlled 460 kilograms of 60% [enriched uranium],?
Steve Witkoff told Fox News host Sean Hannity, ?and they?re aware that
that could make 11 nuclear bombs, and that was the beginning of their negotiating stance.?"

It was time to do something. President Trump has solved the Venezuela problem, he is solving the Iran problem, and he will solve the Cuba
problem next.

Lynn


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Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over-iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators, journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The
same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in
that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them
cowards. He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates their military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war
aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations are continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks. No plans in place
for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe
passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast size of
the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that which it
was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make up for
his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough terms.

Just stupid.

William Hyde




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Subject: Re: Re: ?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

In article <10pf2t2$60nq$1@dont-email.me>,
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over-iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators,
journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's
decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The
same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide
support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in
that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them >cowards. He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates their >military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war
aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations are >continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks. No plans in place
for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe
passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast size of
the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that which it
was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make up for
his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough terms.

Just stupid.

William Hyde

People said that about Emperor Huizong and his successor Emperor Qinzong
but because of them, a great dynasty arose.
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On 3/18/2026 3:45 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over-
iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators,
journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's
decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The
same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide
support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in
that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them cowards.ÿ He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates their military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war
aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations are continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks.ÿ No plans in place
for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe
passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast size of
the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that which it
was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make up for
his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough terms.

Just stupid.

William Hyde

I wonder what you would have said and blamed had Iran sprayed nuclear
bombs around the middle east. Wait, we won't have to worry about that now.

Lynn


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Subject: Re: Re: ?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

On 3/18/2026 3:45 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over-
iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators,
journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's
decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The
same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide
support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in
that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them
cowards.ÿ He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates their
military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war
aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations are
continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks.ÿ No plans in place
for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe
passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast size of
the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that which it
was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make up for
his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough terms.

Just stupid.

William Hyde

I wonder what you would have said and blamed had Iran sprayed nuclear
bombs around the middle east. Wait, we won't have to worry about that now.

1) If anyone is in a position to 'spray nuclear devices' around the
middle east, it is Israel. There's no evidence that Iran
had an explosive nuclear device, and no evidence that they
intended to use one in the future. We didn't have to worry about it at all.
(Note that it was Trump in the first term who actually destroyed the
international nuclear monitoring agreement with Iran, unilaterally).

2) If they had used one, even Iran knows that the country wouldn't
have survived the aftermath. They might be religious nutters,
but they ain't crazy.

Misguided, wrong-headed and stupid are accurate descriptions of
the soi disant Trump foreign policies.

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On 3/18/2026 5:08 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

On 3/18/2026 3:45 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over-
iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators,
journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's
decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The
same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide
support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in
that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them
cowards.ÿ He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates their
military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war
aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations are
continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks.ÿ No plans in place >>> for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe
passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast size of
the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that which it
was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make up for
his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough terms. >>>
Just stupid.

William Hyde

I wonder what you would have said and blamed had Iran sprayed nuclear
bombs around the middle east. Wait, we won't have to worry about that now.

1) If anyone is in a position to 'spray nuclear devices' around the
middle east, it is Israel. There's no evidence that Iran
had an explosive nuclear device, and no evidence that they
intended to use one in the future. We didn't have to worry about it at all.
(Note that it was Trump in the first term who actually destroyed the
international nuclear monitoring agreement with Iran, unilaterally).

2) If they had used one, even Iran knows that the country wouldn't
have survived the aftermath. They might be religious nutters,
but they ain't crazy.

Misguided, wrong-headed and stupid are accurate descriptions of
the soi disant Trump foreign policies.

So you are saying that Trump is lying about Iran claiming to have 460 kg
of 60% enriched uranium. Man, I am sure am glad that you are not
running the USA as competency does not seem to be your forte.

You know, when a country says that they have weapons of mass
destruction, I tend to believe them until they are absolutely proven
wrong. I sure do not attack the message bearer, Trump, as you are doing.

Lynn


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On 3/18/26 13:45, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over-
iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators,
journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's
decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The
same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide
support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in
that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them cowards.ÿ He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates their military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war
aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations are continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks.ÿ No plans in place
for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe
passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast size of
the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that which it
was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make up for
his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough terms.

Just stupid.

William Hyde

I do tend to agree that no verbal term is strong enough to indicate the
degree
of un-reality in which DJT operates.
With a reasonable person such as George Bush you convince the people either
through presentation of what evidence of need to intervene you have
which may be
lies as in the Iraq War or truth as with FDR and convince the Congress
of the need
for action. With Congress and the people behind you you get a
declaration of War
or funding for military action.

Trump did not do that so the majority of the people who are really the Government of the USA are not convinced of the need for his actions
something
like 20% for and 60% against his war on Iran.
And he ran on a platform of no more extended Foreign Wars and within
15 months of assuming office he violates that pledge.
He campaigned on removing criminals who happened to be immigrants
from the nation but he is intent on mass deportation of workers and refugees
as well as hapless American Citizens who are caught up by the ICE raiders.

He said he would cut waste and "drain the swamp" meaning getting rid
of the parasites on the political machinery of the nation. He is destroying
a working govenment and has become the chief parasite on the American
people and the Government. Also he has torn down the East Wing for
the sake of his speculative ballroom which may never be built. Now he
has brought out an architect who wants the Ionic columns on the front
of the White House to the Corinthian mode which was emblematic of
the decadence of the original builders.

bliss - who believes that SF Writers should write more and better
stories but
keep out of local politics, past, and fictional regimes are their metier.

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On 3/18/2026 4:39 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/18/2026 5:08 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

On 3/18/2026 3:45 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over- >>>>> iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators,
journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's >>>>> decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The >>>>> same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide >>>>> support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in >>>>> that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them
cowards.ÿ He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates their >>>> military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war
aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations are >>>> continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks.ÿ No plans in
place
for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe
passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast size of >>>> the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that which it >>>> was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make up for >>>> his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough
terms.

Just stupid.

William Hyde

I wonder what you would have said and blamed had Iran sprayed nuclear
bombs around the middle east.ÿ Wait, we won't have to worry about
that now.

1) If anyone is in a position to 'spray nuclear devices' around the
ÿÿÿ middle east, it is Israel.ÿÿ There's no evidence that Iran
ÿÿÿ had an explosive nuclear device, and no evidence that they
ÿÿÿ intended to use one in the future. We didn't have to worry about
it at all.
ÿÿÿ (Note that it was Trump in the first term who actually destroyed the
ÿÿÿÿ international nuclear monitoring agreement with Iran, unilaterally).

2) If they had used one, even Iran knows that the country wouldn't
ÿÿÿ have survived the aftermath.ÿ They might be religious nutters,
ÿÿÿ but they ain't crazy.

Misguided, wrong-headed and stupid are accurate descriptions of
the soi disant Trump foreign policies.

So you are saying that Trump is lying about Iran claiming to have 460 kg
of 60% enriched uranium.ÿ Man, I am sure am glad that you are not
running the USA as competency does not seem to be your forte.

There is a difference between having some partially enriched uranium
(60% isn't weapons grade) and having working nuclear weapons.

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dirty old man.

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On 3/18/2026 7:49 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 3/18/2026 4:39 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/18/2026 5:08 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

On 3/18/2026 3:45 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over- >>>>>> iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators,
journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's >>>>>> decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The >>>>>> same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide >>>>>> support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in >>>>>> that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them >>>>> cowards.ÿ He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates their >>>>> military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war >>>>> aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations are >>>>> continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks.ÿ No plans in
place
for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe
passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast
size of
the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that which it >>>>> was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make up >>>>> for
his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough
terms.

Just stupid.

William Hyde

I wonder what you would have said and blamed had Iran sprayed nuclear
bombs around the middle east.ÿ Wait, we won't have to worry about
that now.

1) If anyone is in a position to 'spray nuclear devices' around the
ÿÿÿ middle east, it is Israel.ÿÿ There's no evidence that Iran
ÿÿÿ had an explosive nuclear device, and no evidence that they
ÿÿÿ intended to use one in the future. We didn't have to worry about
it at all.
ÿÿÿ (Note that it was Trump in the first term who actually destroyed the >>> ÿÿÿÿ international nuclear monitoring agreement with Iran,
unilaterally).

2) If they had used one, even Iran knows that the country wouldn't
ÿÿÿ have survived the aftermath.ÿ They might be religious nutters,
ÿÿÿ but they ain't crazy.

Misguided, wrong-headed and stupid are accurate descriptions of
the soi disant Trump foreign policies.

So you are saying that Trump is lying about Iran claiming to have 460
kg of 60% enriched uranium.ÿ Man, I am sure am glad that you are not
running the USA as competency does not seem to be your forte.

There is a difference between having some partially enriched uranium
(60% isn't weapons grade) and having working nuclear weapons.

Yes, two weeks according to Trump's people.

Lynn


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On 3/18/26 18:06, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/18/2026 7:49 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 3/18/2026 4:39 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/18/2026 5:08 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

On 3/18/2026 3:45 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author >>>>>>>
https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality- >>>>>>> over-
iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators, >>>>>>> journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President
Trump's
decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The >>>>>>> same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide >>>>>>> support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in >>>>>>> that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them >>>>>> cowards.ÿ He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates
their
military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war >>>>>> aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations >>>>>> are
continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks.ÿ No plans in >>>>>> place
for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe >>>>>> passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast
size of
the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that
which it
was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make
up for
his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough >>>>>> terms.

Just stupid.

William Hyde

I wonder what you would have said and blamed had Iran sprayed nuclear >>>>> bombs around the middle east.ÿ Wait, we won't have to worry about
that now.

1) If anyone is in a position to 'spray nuclear devices' around the
ÿÿÿ middle east, it is Israel.ÿÿ There's no evidence that Iran
ÿÿÿ had an explosive nuclear device, and no evidence that they
ÿÿÿ intended to use one in the future. We didn't have to worry about
it at all.
ÿÿÿ (Note that it was Trump in the first term who actually destroyed
the
ÿÿÿÿ international nuclear monitoring agreement with Iran,
unilaterally).

2) If they had used one, even Iran knows that the country wouldn't
ÿÿÿ have survived the aftermath.ÿ They might be religious nutters,
ÿÿÿ but they ain't crazy.

Misguided, wrong-headed and stupid are accurate descriptions of
the soi disant Trump foreign policies.

So you are saying that Trump is lying about Iran claiming to have 460
kg of 60% enriched uranium.ÿ Man, I am sure am glad that you are not
running the USA as competency does not seem to be your forte.

There is a difference between having some partially enriched uranium
(60% isn't weapons grade) and having working nuclear weapons.

Yes, two weeks according to Trump's people.

Lynn

Trump and his people are largely incompetent so...
That is not a winning argument.
Joe Kent resigned because he saw no evidence of Iran being
an immediate danger to the USA. Trump moved because the files
describing his rape of children were being released and he needed
to offset that with some bold action. He had planned for these
attacks waiting for Israel's intelligence to tell him that they were
ready to go.

bliss

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Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 3/18/2026 5:08 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

On 3/18/2026 3:45 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Lynn McGuire wrote:

?Facing reality over Iran? by Peter Grant, science fiction author

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2026/03/facing-reality-over- >>>>> iran.html

"I'm getting more and more fed up with politicians, commentators,
journalists and so-called "experts" all saying that President Trump's >>>>> decision to strike Iran was misguided, wrong-headed and stupid.ÿ The >>>>> same goes for all the European and other nations refusing to provide >>>>> support, military or otherwise, for the joint US-Israeli campaign in >>>>> that country."

Trump repeatedly insults his allies, going so far as to declare them
cowards.ÿ He lies about their past support of the US, deprecates their >>>> military achievements in prior wars, says he doesn't need them.

He launches a war without consulting them. He gives no consistent war
aims, no justification for attacking now, again while negotiations are >>>> continuing.

He does not consider the consequences of his attacks.ÿ No plans in
place
for evacuating civilians, and above all no plans for ensuring safe
passage of ships through the strait of Hormuz. Despite the vast size of >>>> the navy he commands.

He doesn't seem to have even imagined that Iran would do that which it >>>> was certain to do.

Then he tells his allies that they must use their forces to make up for >>>> his blunders, and threatens them if they do not.

That is stupid. "Misguided and wrong-headed" are not strong enough
terms.

Just stupid.

William Hyde

I wonder what you would have said and blamed had Iran sprayed nuclear
bombs around the middle east.ÿ Wait, we won't have to worry about
that now.

1) If anyone is in a position to 'spray nuclear devices' around the
ÿÿÿ middle east, it is Israel.ÿÿ There's no evidence that Iran
ÿÿÿ had an explosive nuclear device, and no evidence that they
ÿÿÿ intended to use one in the future. We didn't have to worry about
it at all.
ÿÿÿ (Note that it was Trump in the first term who actually destroyed the
ÿÿÿÿ international nuclear monitoring agreement with Iran, unilaterally).

2) If they had used one, even Iran knows that the country wouldn't
ÿÿÿ have survived the aftermath.ÿ They might be religious nutters,
ÿÿÿ but they ain't crazy.

Misguided, wrong-headed and stupid are accurate descriptions of
the soi disant Trump foreign policies.

So you are saying that Trump is lying about Iran claiming to have 460 kg
of 60% enriched uranium.ÿ Man, I am sure am glad that you are not
running the USA as competency does not seem to be your forte.

You know, when a country says that they have weapons of mass
destruction, I tend to believe them until they are absolutely proven
wrong.ÿ I sure do not attack the message bearer, Trump, as you are doing.

Lynn

Well at least you owned up to being gullible. Saddam claimed to have
WMDs too. Pure bluff. And of course W knew he didn't have anything-
that ridiculous dog and pony show Powell put on at the UN was
pathetically transparent- but people felt like they had to go along with
it in the post-9/11 mania to DO SOMETHING!!! Except for Robert Byrd, who
in that one speech atoned for all his horrible racist actions he
committed before.

And of course Trump knew Iran didn't have WMDs too. He's too much of a
pussy to go after anyone with that capability. And there was, as others
have already said, the much more important consideration of distracting
people from the evidence that he raped little girls. And he's got the
entire Repugly party stamping their feet and shouting "NO PEDO RAPE
HERE! NO PEDO RAPE HERE!"

Just as he did two years ago, Netanyahu attacked Iran not to prevent
them from getting a nuclear weapon, but to prevent them from getting a
nuclear weapon deal. He's as evil as Trump.

Chris
To steal a line from James Nicoll, GOP delenda est.


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On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 16:47:57 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

I wonder what you would have said and blamed had Iran sprayed
nuclear bombs around the middle east. Wait, we won't have to worry
about that now.

You think our worries on that score are over?

Iran could still launch a ?dirty bomb?. Or rather, a ?dirty
projectile?, loaded up with some small amount of that enriched
uranium. Think of the mess that will make wherever it comes down.
Doesn?t matter if it gets intercepted by one of Israel?s Iron Dome
anti-missile missiles -- that will just spread the contamination over
an even wider area.

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