Pearls Before Swine: I Don't Want A Civil War
ÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2026/03/15
Nice try.
Lynn
On 3/15/26 13:54, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Pearls Before Swine: I Don't Want A Civil WarThat is good but civil wars would be hugs and handshakes
?? https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2026/03/15
Nice try.
Lynn
but instead wars within polities are seldom anything but uncivil with
few exception usually between individuals who respect their opponents.
The first American Civil War was the Revolutionary War where
the revolting colonists and the loyal to the king colonists murdered
each other. The second Civil War which is called "The Civil War" was
over slavery and nothing else. The leaders of the Confederacy were
as short-sighted as Trump is today or they would not have tried to
escape the Union.
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:16:58 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
On 3/15/26 13:54, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Pearls Before Swine: I Don't Want A Civil WarThat is good but civil wars would be hugs and handshakes
ÿÿ https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2026/03/15
Nice try.
Lynn
but instead wars within polities are seldom anything but uncivil with
few exception usually between individuals who respect their opponents.
The first American Civil War was the Revolutionary War where
the revolting colonists and the loyal to the king colonists murdered
each other. The second Civil War which is called "The Civil War" was
over slavery and nothing else. The leaders of the Confederacy were
as short-sighted as Trump is today or they would not have tried to
escape the Union.
I wasn't aware that that many Colonists were Hessians.
Try again, taking the Red Coats and the French into account.
Your characterization of the Civil War (aka "The War Between the
States" and, per Rocky and Bullwinkle, "The Recent Unpleasantness"),
however, is spot-on.
Where did you find the Hessian Colonists?
Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
Where did you find the Hessian Colonists?
Mostly in Pennsylvania although we had a few in Virginia. Remember the British hired 30,000 contract mercenaries from the Hesses and a few thousand liked it enough here to stay after the war was over.
Kind of like all the American expats who decided to stay in Thailand after the
Vietnam War. But not exactly.
--scott
Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
Where did you find the Hessian Colonists?
Mostly in Pennsylvania although we had a few in Virginia.
On 3/16/26 14:09, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
Where did you find the Hessian Colonists?
Mostly in Pennsylvania although we had a few in Virginia. Remember the
British hired 30,000 contract mercenaries from the Hesses and a few thousand >> liked it enough here to stay after the war was over.
You did not specify that the Hessians were not colonists but immigrants
after
the Revolutionary War.
Kind of like all the American expats who decided to stay in Thailand after the
Vietnam War. But not exactly.
No not nearly the same. Not that I know much about the expats and
there motivations.
Scott Dorsey wrote:
Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
Where did you find the Hessian Colonists?
Mostly in Pennsylvania although we had a few in Virginia.
I suspect she's ribbing him a bit.
Thousands of (non Hessian) colonists fought on the loyalist side.
Pearls Before Swine: I Don't Want A Civil War
https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2026/03/15
Nice try.
That is good but civil wars would be hugs and handshakes
but instead wars within polities are seldom anything but uncivil
I didn't mention them. That was someone else. I don't know what casethey
were presenting. But there were a lot of them and there are stillcities
in eastern PA named after Hessian cities.
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:16:58 -0700, Bobbie Sellers +><bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:murdered each other.
The first American Civil War was the Revolutionary War where
the revolting colonists and the loyal to the king colonists
I wasn't aware that that many Colonists were Hessians.
Try again, taking the Red Coats and the French into account.
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
Where did you find the Hessian Colonists?
Mostly in Pennsylvania although we had a few in Virginia.
I suspect she's ribbing him a bit.
Thousands of (non Hessian) colonists fought on the loyalist side.
If they hadn't, it wouldn't have been much of a war, would it? Those >loyalists mostly wound up in Canada when they lost, which wasn't a bad
deal either.
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 18:39:22 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
I didn't mention them. That was someone else. I don't know what case they >> were presenting. But there were a lot of them and there are still cities
in eastern PA named after Hessian cities.
That was me. I was responding to:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:16:58 -0700, Bobbie Sellers +><bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
murdered each other.The first American Civil War was the Revolutionary War where
the revolting colonists and the loyal to the king colonists
It was Bobbie Sellers who pretended to herself that I was talking
about Hessian colonists when I responded:
I wasn't aware that that many Colonists were Hessians.
Try again, taking the Red Coats and the French into account.
And she never got the point about the British regulars and the French
either.
IOW, she completely blew off the fact that the American Revolution was
/not/ a Civil War between colonists but was fought against the British
and their Hessian mercenaries. And a small number of Tory militia.
Had it been Continentals vs Tories, the war would have been over in a
month.
And those loyal to the King and survived -- well, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Loyalists> is relevant
here. Note, however, that 80%-90% became Americans and stayed where
they were.
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 18:40:58 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
Where did you find the Hessian Colonists?
Mostly in Pennsylvania although we had a few in Virginia.
I suspect she's ribbing him a bit.
Thousands of (non Hessian) colonists fought on the loyalist side.
If they hadn't, it wouldn't have been much of a war, would it? Those
loyalists mostly wound up in Canada when they lost, which wasn't a bad
deal either.
They were /militia/. Without them, the war would have gone on pretty
much as it did historically, since it was the British Army that had to
be defeated. And the British Navy that had to be suppressed locally,
which is where the French came in.
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:16:58 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
That is good but civil wars would be hugs and handshakes
but instead wars within polities are seldom anything but uncivil
The word "civil" has more than one meaning, and you are using the wrong
one in this context.
Instead of "civil" in the sense of polilte, think of "civilian" as opposed
to military.
While the War Between the States was fought between organized armies, the Union Army being the United States Army, in general, the army that a
nation has is used to fight foreign enemies.
And so an internal war within a divided nation might be fought between
mobs of ordinary civilians rather than soldiers. That is what would make
it a "civil war" as opposed to a "military war", the regular kind.
John Savard
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:16:58 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
That is good but civil wars would be hugs and handshakes
but instead wars within polities are seldom anything but uncivil
The word "civil" has more than one meaning, and you are using the wrong
one in this context.
Instead of "civil" in the sense of polilte, think of "civilian" as opposed
to military.
While the War Between the States was fought between organized armies, the Union Army being the United States Army, in general, the army that a
nation has is used to fight foreign enemies.
And so an internal war within a divided nation might be fought between
mobs of ordinary civilians rather than soldiers. That is what would make
it a "civil war" as opposed to a "military war", the regular kind.
John Savard
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 18:39:22 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
I didn't mention them. That was someone else. I don't know what case they >> were presenting. But there were a lot of them and there are still cities
in eastern PA named after Hessian cities.
That was me. I was responding to:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:16:58 -0700, Bobbie Sellers +><bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
murdered each other.The first American Civil War was the Revolutionary War where
the revolting colonists and the loyal to the king colonists
It was Bobbie Sellers who pretended to herself that I was talking
about Hessian colonists when I responded:
I wasn't aware that that many Colonists were Hessians.
Try again, taking the Red Coats and the French into account.
And she never got the point about the British regulars and the French
either.
IOW, she completely blew off the fact that the American Revolution was
/not/ a Civil War between colonists but was fought against the British
and their Hessian mercenaries. And a small number of Tory militia.
Had it been Continentals vs Tories, the war would have been over in a
month.
And those loyal to the King and survived -- well, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Loyalists> is relevant
here. Note, however, that 80%-90% became Americans and stayed where
they were.
On 3/17/2026 9:04 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Mon, 16 Mar 2026 18:39:22 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (ScottActually the bloodiest fighting in the American Revolution was in the southern Colonies between American and Loyalist militias with some
Dorsey) wrote:
I didn't mention them.ÿ That was someone else.ÿ I don't know whatThat was me. I was responding to:
case they
were presenting.ÿ But there were a lot of them and there are still
cities
in eastern PA named after Hessian cities.
On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 15:16:58 -0700, Bobbie Sellersmurdered each other.
<bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
ÿÿÿ The first American Civil War was the Revolutionary War where
the revolting colonists and the loyal to the king colonists
It was Bobbie Sellers who pretended to herself that I was talking
about Hessian colonists when I responded:
I wasn't aware that that many Colonists were Hessians.
Try again, taking the Red Coats and the French into account.
And she never got the point about the British regulars and the French
either.
IOW, she completely blew off the fact that the American Revolution was
/not/ a Civil War between colonists but was fought against the British
and their Hessian mercenaries. And a small number of Tory militia.
Redcoats and a smaller number of Continental troops.
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