https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 03:16:23 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:actual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
Although this looks impressive, like a real Hollywood trailer, I would
think that almost certainly this was something some ordinary person
created as a joke, likely with assistance from modern generative AI >technology.
Because nearly everyone knows what DST is, that it doesn't involve
time travel, so it isn't going to create an effect that will destroy the
world... and so a movie with such a premise wouldn't actually get enough
people to pay money to sit in a theatre to watch it... to even outdo
Melania at the box office.
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 06:15:56 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 03:16:23 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
Although this looks impressive, like a real Hollywood trailer, I would
think that almost certainly this was something some ordinary person
created as a joke, likely with assistance from modern generative AI
technology.
Because nearly everyone knows what DST is, that it doesn't involve actual
time travel, so it isn't going to create an effect that will destroy the
world... and so a movie with such a premise wouldn't actually get enough
people to pay money to sit in a theatre to watch it... to even outdo
Melania at the box office.
Actually, since (as I have pointed out before) DST forces everyone to
live in a fantasy world where my clocks tell me it is 0943 but I know
darn well it is 0843, and since (in the USA) the bulk of the political campaigning and early voting is done when DST is in effect, I would
say that the election of Trump in 2024 might very well turn out to
destroy the world, as he appears to have a long long list of countries
to invade/attack/take over/dictate to.
From until he leaves office,
it is important to consider the Trump
Effect when speculating about what is or is not possible in regards to anything subject to human action.
The laws of physics and other sciences are, of course, not affected.
What research is funded may be, but that's not the same thing.
I assume you meant to type "if he leaves office," since he's "hinted"
enough to make it clear he's going to do everything he can to _remain_
in office after 2028.
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 06:15:56 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 03:16:23 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
Although this looks impressive, like a real Hollywood trailer, I would
think that almost certainly this was something some ordinary person
created as a joke, likely with assistance from modern generative AI
technology.
Because nearly everyone knows what DST is, that it doesn't involve actual
time travel, so it isn't going to create an effect that will destroy the
world... and so a movie with such a premise wouldn't actually get enough
people to pay money to sit in a theatre to watch it... to even outdo
Melania at the box office.
Actually, since (as I have pointed out before) DST forces everyone to
live in a fantasy world where my clocks tell me it is 0943 but I know
darn well it is 0843, and since (in the USA) the bulk of the political campaigning and early voting is done when DST is in effect, I would
say that the election of Trump in 2024 might very well turn out to
destroy the world, as he appears to have a long long list of countries
to invade/attack/take over/dictate to.
However, after 2028, after ceasing to be the President of the United
States, without actually rewriting the Constitution, he could change
things so that his new post, as General Secretary of the Republican
Party of the United States of America, actually wields the real
power, while his successor as President is mostly just a figurehead.
It's not as if this system hasn't been tested in other countries
which have constitutions that seemingly guarantee human rights and
free elections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 18:30:35 -0000 (UTC), quadi wrote:september17.htm>
However, after 2028, after ceasing to be the President of the United
States, without actually rewriting the Constitution, he could change
things so that his new post, as General Secretary of the Republican
Party of the United States of America, actually wields the real power,
while his successor as President is mostly just a figurehead.
It's not as if this system hasn't been tested in other countries which
have constitutions that seemingly guarantee human rights and free
elections.
Looking at this record <https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/constitutionalconvention-
of the circumstances of Ben Franklin?s remark ?A republic, if you canThese are republics masquerading as constitutional monarchies. That's what
keep it? ... I find no mention of the word ?democracy?. People seemed
more worried about ?monarchies?, as though they were somehow a threat to something or other (the number of free, democratic societies that have a monarch as head of state today should be ample disproof of that).
Technically, if Trump and his supporters do as you say to let him keep
his hold on power, you would still have your ?Republic? ...
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 22:07:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
... (the number of free, democratic societies that have a
monarch as head of state today should be ample disproof of that).
These are republics masquerading as constitutional monarchies. That's what they are called by William Everdell, a historian of republicanism.
On 3/8/2026 9:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:would
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 06:15:56 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 03:16:23 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
Although this looks impressive, like a real Hollywood trailer, I
actualthink that almost certainly this was something some ordinary person
created as a joke, likely with assistance from modern generative AI
technology.
Because nearly everyone knows what DST is, that it doesn't involve
thetime travel, so it isn't going to create an effect that will destroy
enoughworld... and so a movie with such a premise wouldn't actually get
people to pay money to sit in a theatre to watch it... to even outdo
Melania at the box office.
Actually, since (as I have pointed out before) DST forces everyone to
live in a fantasy world where my clocks tell me it is 0943 but I know
darn well it is 0843, and since (in the USA) the bulk of the political
campaigning and early voting is done when DST is in effect, I would
say that the election of Trump in 2024 might very well turn out to
destroy the world, as he appears to have a long long list of countries
to invade/attack/take over/dictate to.
From until he leaves office,
I assume you meant to type "if he leaves office," since he's "hinted"
enough to make it clear he's going to do everything he can to _remain_
in office after 2028.
--it is important to consider the Trump
Effect when speculating about what is or is not possible in regards to
anything subject to human action.
The laws of physics and other sciences are, of course, not affected.
What research is funded may be, but that's not the same thing.
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 07:35:51 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer wrote:what
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 22:07:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
... (the number of free, democratic societies that have a
monarch as head of state today should be ample disproof of that).
These are republics masquerading as constitutional monarchies. That's
they are called by William Everdell, a historian of republicanism.
What would be a ?real? constitutional monarchy, according to this
concept? How would such be defined, exactly?
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 11:19:32 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
I assume you meant to type "if he leaves office," since he's "hinted"
enough to make it clear he's going to do everything he can to _remain_
in office after 2028.
At other times, though, he has shrugged those hints off as mere jests.
As well, as the Constitutional prohibition is quite explicit, I really
doubt that he could pull this off.
On 3/8/2026 11:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:would
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 06:15:56 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 03:16:23 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
Although this looks impressive, like a real Hollywood trailer, I
actualthink that almost certainly this was something some ordinary person
created as a joke, likely with assistance from modern generative AI
technology.
Because nearly everyone knows what DST is, that it doesn't involve
thetime travel, so it isn't going to create an effect that will destroy
enoughworld... and so a movie with such a premise wouldn't actually get
people to pay money to sit in a theatre to watch it... to even outdo
Melania at the box office.
Actually, since (as I have pointed out before) DST forces everyone to
live in a fantasy world where my clocks tell me it is 0943 but I know
darn well it is 0843, and since (in the USA) the bulk of the political
campaigning and early voting is done when DST is in effect, I would
say that the election of Trump in 2024 might very well turn out to
destroy the world, as he appears to have a long long list of countries
to invade/attack/take over/dictate to.
The TDS, Trump Derangement Syndrome, is strong with this one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 18:30:35 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 11:19:32 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
I assume you meant to type "if he leaves office," since he's "hinted"
enough to make it clear he's going to do everything he can to _remain_
in office after 2028.
At other times, though, he has shrugged those hints off as mere jests.
As well, as the Constitutional prohibition is quite explicit, I really
doubt that he could pull this off.
He can't run again, but he could get elected Speaker of the House and
then arrange for the President/Vice President to resign. Or be retired through more energetic means.
I don't think this would actually be accepted, but it might work as he
would not have run for President.
This, BTW, is one of the reasons why I believe that, if he is
impeached and convicted, he must also be barred from every holding
Federal office again: it would short-circuit a whole lot of nonsense.
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 22:07:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 18:30:35 -0000 (UTC), quadi wrote:september17.htm>
However, after 2028, after ceasing to be the President of the United
States, without actually rewriting the Constitution, he could change
things so that his new post, as General Secretary of the Republican
Party of the United States of America, actually wields the real power,
while his successor as President is mostly just a figurehead.
It's not as if this system hasn't been tested in other countries which
have constitutions that seemingly guarantee human rights and free
elections.
Looking at this record
<https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/constitutionalconvention-
of the circumstances of Ben Franklin?s remark ?A republic, if you canThese are republics masquerading as constitutional monarchies. That's what they are called by William Everdell, a historian of republicanism.
keep it? ... I find no mention of the word ?democracy?. People seemed
more worried about ?monarchies?, as though they were somehow a threat to
something or other (the number of free, democratic societies that have a
monarch as head of state today should be ample disproof of that).
Technically, if Trump and his supporters do as you say to let him keep
his hold on power, you would still have your ?Republic? ...
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 11:19:32 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 3/8/2026 9:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 06:15:56 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 03:16:23 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
Although this looks impressive, like a real Hollywood trailer, I would >>>> think that almost certainly this was something some ordinary person
created as a joke, likely with assistance from modern generative AI
technology.
Because nearly everyone knows what DST is, that it doesn't involve actual >>>> time travel, so it isn't going to create an effect that will destroy the >>>> world... and so a movie with such a premise wouldn't actually get enough >>>> people to pay money to sit in a theatre to watch it... to even outdo
Melania at the box office.
Actually, since (as I have pointed out before) DST forces everyone to
live in a fantasy world where my clocks tell me it is 0943 but I know
darn well it is 0843, and since (in the USA) the bulk of the political
campaigning and early voting is done when DST is in effect, I would
say that the election of Trump in 2024 might very well turn out to
destroy the world, as he appears to have a long long list of countries
to invade/attack/take over/dictate to.
From until he leaves office,
I assume you meant to type "if he leaves office," since he's "hinted"
enough to make it clear he's going to do everything he can to _remain_
in office after 2028.
I think I left out the "now":
From now until he leaves office,
As others have noted, "omit one word and the entire thought
collapses".
And here is the one of the impetuses for starting a Civil War in the
USA.
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 16:33:26 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
And here is the one of the impetuses for starting a Civil War in the
USA.
But isn?t the ?right to bear arms? regularly touted by the pro-gun
folk as being some kind of deterrent to exactly this sort of situation occurring?
It doesn?t actually work, does it?
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 11:19:32 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 3/8/2026 9:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 06:15:56 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 03:16:23 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
Although this looks impressive, like a real Hollywood trailer, I would >>>> think that almost certainly this was something some ordinary person
created as a joke, likely with assistance from modern generative AI
technology.
Because nearly everyone knows what DST is, that it doesn't involve actual >>>> time travel, so it isn't going to create an effect that will destroy the >>>> world... and so a movie with such a premise wouldn't actually get enough >>>> people to pay money to sit in a theatre to watch it... to even outdo
Melania at the box office.
Actually, since (as I have pointed out before) DST forces everyone to
live in a fantasy world where my clocks tell me it is 0943 but I know
darn well it is 0843, and since (in the USA) the bulk of the political
campaigning and early voting is done when DST is in effect, I would
say that the election of Trump in 2024 might very well turn out to
destroy the world, as he appears to have a long long list of countries
to invade/attack/take over/dictate to.
From until he leaves office,
I assume you meant to type "if he leaves office," since he's "hinted"
enough to make it clear he's going to do everything he can to _remain_
in office after 2028.
I think I left out the "now":
From now until he leaves office,
As others have noted, "omit one word and the entire thought
collapses".
it is important to consider the Trump
Effect when speculating about what is or is not possible in regards to
anything subject to human action.
The laws of physics and other sciences are, of course, not affected.
What research is funded may be, but that's not the same thing.
On 3/9/2026 8:42 PM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 16:33:26 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
And here is the one of the impetuses for starting a Civil War in
the USA.
But isn?t the ?right to bear arms? regularly touted by the pro-gun
folk as being some kind of deterrent to exactly this sort of
situation occurring?
It doesn?t actually work, does it?
Nope, you've got it all wrong as usual.
On 3/9/26 09:22, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 11:19:32 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 3/8/2026 9:48 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 06:15:56 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 03:16:23 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
Although this looks impressive, like a real Hollywood trailer, I would >>>>> think that almost certainly this was something some ordinary person
created as a joke, likely with assistance from modern generative AI
technology.
Because nearly everyone knows what DST is, that it doesn't involve
actual
time travel, so it isn't going to create an effect that will
destroy the
world... and so a movie with such a premise wouldn't actually get
enough
people to pay money to sit in a theatre to watch it... to even outdo >>>>> Melania at the box office.
Actually, since (as I have pointed out before) DST forces everyone to
live in a fantasy world where my clocks tell me it is 0943 but I know
darn well it is 0843, and since (in the USA) the bulk of the political >>>> campaigning and early voting is done when DST is in effect, I would
say that the election of Trump in 2024 might very well turn out to
destroy the world, as he appears to have a long long list of countries >>>> to invade/attack/take over/dictate to.
˙ From until he leaves office,
I assume you meant to type "if he leaves office," since he's "hinted"
enough to make it clear he's going to do everything he can to _remain_
in office after 2028.
I think I left out the "now":
˙From now until he leaves office,
As others have noted, "omit one word and the entire thought
collapses".
it is important to consider the Trump
Effect when speculating about what is or is not possible in regards to >>>> anything subject to human action.
The laws of physics and other sciences are, of course, not affected.
What research is funded may be, but that's not the same thing.
˙˙˙˙Mr. Donald John Trump is human(a bad example of the species) but
he will die, sooner or later and he in poor health with symptoms of senility,
˙easy bruising of his hands, lesions on his neck that seems to be poorly managed.
˙˙˙˙I have much the same stuff going on at 88 and he has them at 78
or 79. So unless Stephan Miller is a necromancer sooner of later DJT will stop moving, talking and making bad decisions in so many areas.
˙˙˙˙I hope I last long enough to vote for a successor if Trump does
not decide to take my vote away.˙ He would like to do that, I know
from what he has said so far.˙ Now he refuses to sign any bills.
Goodie!˙ That means by this time next year he will not be vetoing
any fresh bills.
On 3/9/2026 11:27 AM, Paul S Person wrote:"hinted"
On Sun, 8 Mar 2026 18:30:35 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2026 11:19:32 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
I assume you meant to type "if he leaves office," since he's
_remain_enough to make it clear he's going to do everything he can to
jests.in office after 2028.
At other times, though, he has shrugged those hints off as mere
really
As well, as the Constitutional prohibition is quite explicit, I
USA.doubt that he could pull this off.
He can't run again, but he could get elected Speaker of the House and
then arrange for the President/Vice President to resign. Or be retired
through more energetic means.
I don't think this would actually be accepted, but it might work as he
would not have run for President.
This, BTW, is one of the reasons why I believe that, if he is
impeached and convicted, he must also be barred from every holding
Federal office again: it would short-circuit a whole lot of nonsense.
And here is the one of the impetuses for starting a Civil War in the
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 22:42:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:pro-gun
On 3/9/2026 8:42 PM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 16:33:26 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
And here is the one of the impetuses for starting a Civil War in
the USA.
But isn?t the ?right to bear arms? regularly touted by the
tofolk as being some kind of deterrent to exactly this sort of
situation occurring?
It doesn?t actually work, does it?
Nope, you've got it all wrong as usual.
Have I? They talk about ?defending themselves against tyranny?. Then
when a President from the political party they don?t like gets
elected, the rhetoric changes somewhat, and now they talk about
?defending against *extreme* tyranny?. So the goalposts always seem
move just a little, so that the current political situation, no matter
how much they may go on about ?these people are trying to destroy
America?, is never quite ?tyrannical? enough for them to pull out
their guns ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
On 07/03/2026 21.16, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8MGewKxO0w
I really wish I had watched that 24 hours back.
Have I? They talk about ?defending themselves against tyranny?. Then
when a President from the political party they don?t like gets elected,
the rhetoric changes somewhat, and now they talk about ?defending
against *extreme* tyranny?. So the goalposts always seem to move just a little, so that the current political situation, no matter how much they
may go on about ?these people are trying to destroy America?, is never
quite ?tyrannical? enough for them to pull out their guns ...
On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 04:52:47 +0000, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
Have I? They talk about ?defending themselves against tyranny?. Then
when a President from the political party they don?t like gets elected,
the rhetoric changes somewhat, and now they talk about ?defending
against *extreme* tyranny?. So the goalposts always seem to move just a
little, so that the current political situation, no matter how much they
may go on about ?these people are trying to destroy America?, is never
quite ?tyrannical? enough for them to pull out their guns ...
I think that restraint is a good idea.
One would hardly want to live in a country which, while democratic, has people resorting to political violence after nearly every election.
So abandoning life as usual, working to better support one's family, and
take the extraordinary step of taking up arms... requires a high
threshhold, as it should.
The Trump Administration does indeed give the appearance of having met the qualifying threshhold, finally. Given the rhetoric of the Left about G. W. Bush and Ronald Reagan, though, they've cried "Wolf" a few times, on the
one hand. And, on the other, the _forms_ of democracy seem to be still standing in the United States. Midterms are still widely anticipated in November of this year.
I hope that a bloody civil war will not become necessary in the United States. But Trump is edging ever closer to the line which will lead to it happening. So disappointment on your part is not inevitable.
Of course, it could well be that when the necessity for rebellion becomes evident to enough people, it will already be too late. Trump may be
stupid, but some of those who seem to be behind him may be quite clever
and patient.
I still, perhaps foolishly, hold out hope that the current national - and world - nightmare may end peacefully.
John Savard
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