• (Tears) The Puppet Masters by Robert A. Heinlein

    From James Nicoll@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 14:22:54
    The Puppet Masters by Robert A. Heinlein

    Can the world, and more importantly, AMERICA! (patriotic song
    here) fend off a subversive attack from space?

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/death-and-destruction
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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 08:40:39
    On Sun, 1 Feb 2026 14:22:54 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
    Nicoll) wrote:

    The Puppet Masters by Robert A. Heinlein

    Can the world, and more importantly, AMERICA! (patriotic song
    here) fend off a subversive attack from space?

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/death-and-destruction

    I saw the movie. You are correct: it was not good.

    Interestingly, this joins /Farmham's Freehold/ on the list of "e-books
    of Heinlein's works that came out after my great rereading some years
    ago". So I will be reading it after /Farmham's Freehold/.

    Which I am clearly reading again for the very first time. I had
    completely forgotten the first part of the book, where they are in the
    woods fending for themselves. I have no idea how long that lasts.

    I also have no idea if the edition of /The Puppet Masters/ is the
    original or the expanded version. If I remember your sample of the
    difference, I should be able to tell. I did not recognize the plot at
    all when I saw the /The Puppet Masters/ movie, so either the film is
    worse than I thought or this may be a book I never read before. Only
    time will tell.

    As to related films, /Slither/ has something similar going on. This
    film plays as if it were a standard B-movie of the past, yet it is
    very well done.
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  • From James Nicoll@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 21:46:19
    In article <luvunk19qfnboebl9b70alk1e2ivosovha@4ax.com>,
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 1 Feb 2026 14:22:54 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
    Nicoll) wrote:

    The Puppet Masters by Robert A. Heinlein

    Can the world, and more importantly, AMERICA! (patriotic song
    here) fend off a subversive attack from space?

    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/death-and-destruction

    I saw the movie. You are correct: it was not good.

    Interestingly, this joins /Farmham's Freehold/ on the list of "e-books
    of Heinlein's works that came out after my great rereading some years
    ago". So I will be reading it after /Farmham's Freehold/.

    Which I am clearly reading again for the very first time. I had
    completely forgotten the first part of the book, where they are in the
    woods fending for themselves. I have no idea how long that lasts.

    I also have no idea if the edition of /The Puppet Masters/ is the
    original or the expanded version. If I remember your sample of the >difference, I should be able to tell. I did not recognize the plot at
    all when I saw the /The Puppet Masters/ movie, so either the film is
    worse than I thought or this may be a book I never read before. Only
    time will tell.

    As to related films, /Slither/ has something similar going on. This
    film plays as if it were a standard B-movie of the past, yet it is
    very well done.

    If the opening two paragraphs are

    Were they truly intelligent? By themselves, that is? I don't
    know and I don't know how we can ever find out.

    If they were not truly intelligent, I hope I never live to see us
    tangle with anything at all like them which is intelligent. I know who
    will lose. Me. You. The so-called human race.

    Then it is the original.

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  • From Christian Weisgerber@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 21:44:05
    On 2026-02-01, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    As to related films, /Slither/ has something similar going on. This
    film plays as if it were a standard B-movie of the past, yet it is
    very well done.

    Another film in the vein of _The Puppet Masters_/_The Body Snatchers_
    is _The Faculty_, which explicitly namechecks those novels. IIRC,
    one character complains that Finney ripped off Heinlein. Alien
    parasites take over the teachers at a high school and it is up to
    a group of misfit students to figure out what is going on and fight
    back. That movie is also better than it has any right to be.

    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 18:07:55
    Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
    On 2026-02-01, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    As to related films, /Slither/ has something similar going on. This
    film plays as if it were a standard B-movie of the past, yet it is
    very well done.

    Another film in the vein of _The Puppet Masters_/_The Body Snatchers_
    is _The Faculty_, which explicitly namechecks those novels. IIRC,
    one character complains that Finney ripped off Heinlein. Alien
    parasites take over the teachers at a high school and it is up to
    a group of misfit students to figure out what is going on and fight
    back. That movie is also better than it has any right to be.

    It will never live up to the high bar set by that classic piece of
    American cinema "Zontar The Thing from Venus."
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, February 01, 2026 16:29:50


    On 2/1/26 13:44, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
    On 2026-02-01, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    As to related films, /Slither/ has something similar going on. This
    film plays as if it were a standard B-movie of the past, yet it is
    very well done.

    Another film in the vein of _The Puppet Masters_/_The Body Snatchers_
    is _The Faculty_, which explicitly namechecks those novels. IIRC,
    one character complains that Finney ripped off Heinlein. Alien
    parasites take over the teachers at a high school and it is up to
    a group of misfit students to figure out what is going on and fight
    back. That movie is also better than it has any right to be.


    No way it could be better than the book which I read in serialization. Probably in Galaxy SF while yet in HS.

    bliss


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