• F&SF

    From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 30, 2026 17:42:10
    So, given the worries about F&SF, I picked up the latest copy at my local Barnes and Noble, along with the latest Asimov's. Both seem to be
    published now by Must Read Magazines. There were two copies of F&SF at
    the store and both were pretty ripped up, so I got the better of the two.

    I haven't got a copy of any SF magazine since the Covid shutdown and I
    was shocked at how poor the physical quality was. The paper on the
    covers is much thinner and poorly-made than in previous years, and the
    printing was very uneven with some streaks of very light printing and some streaks of very heavy printing, like a badly-worn and poorly-adjusted
    web press. Nothing was illegible but some pages took some studying.

    The contents? I will give the new editors credit for trying to be inclusive. Almost all the fiction authors were bipoc folks, and there was a very
    good article reviewing a survey made of minority authors. None of the
    stories were terrible, but every one that I read made me think that it
    could have been made into a better story by a good editor. There were
    stories that were too long, stories that had some clumsy parts, and
    stories with some problems with their technology. Nothing that could not
    have been fixed up very quickly by John Campbell, but there was no
    John Campbell with his red pencil there to do it.

    So... I wish them luck, and I might consider subscribing just to see what happens, but this is a magazine that feels like it has some problems.
    Not insurmountable ones, but time is running out.
    --scott

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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 30, 2026 18:44:51
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    I haven't got a copy of any SF magazine since the Covid shutdown and I
    was shocked at how poor the physical quality was. The paper on the
    covers is much thinner and poorly-made than in previous years, and the >>printing was very uneven with some streaks of very light printing and some >>streaks of very heavy printing, like a badly-worn and poorly-adjusted
    web press. Nothing was illegible but some pages took some studying.

    See, well-printed & well-bound *is* important :-)

    I wasn't expecting National Geographic quality... and these days National Geographic doesn't even come close to National Geographic quality...
    but this was just no good.
    --scott

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  • From danny burstein@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 30, 2026 23:55:59
    In <10ljfpj$f60$1@panix2.panix.com> kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:

    [snip]

    I wasn't expecting National Geographic quality... and these days National >Geographic doesn't even come close to National Geographic quality...
    but this was just no good.
    --scott

    If you want good quality there's Arizona Highways!


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 30, 2026 20:23:25

    On 1/30/26 15:44, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    I haven't got a copy of any SF magazine since the Covid shutdown and I
    was shocked at how poor the physical quality was. The paper on the
    covers is much thinner and poorly-made than in previous years, and the
    printing was very uneven with some streaks of very light printing and some >>> streaks of very heavy printing, like a badly-worn and poorly-adjusted
    web press. Nothing was illegible but some pages took some studying.

    See, well-printed & well-bound *is* important :-)

    I wasn't expecting National Geographic quality... and these days National Geographic doesn't even come close to National Geographic quality...
    but this was just no good.
    --scott


    During the Covid-19 shutdowns here in San Francisco, one newsstand stayed
    open transacting business from behind sheilds at the front door and
    since they
    carried several SF magazines I spent some money on those while they managed
    to stay in business. The owner operator had to close eventually which
    lead me
    subscribed to Linux Pro magazine in the digital format and I still get
    it. That
    was why I was a customer at the shop and also because the shop featured
    a lot of brands of high quality chocolate. I will bring back another of my ancient taglines . He went to work at Trader Joe's and since then the
    quality
    of their chocolate has improved. I could not find a way then to
    subscribe to
    the magazines aside from the Linux magazine. It is very depressing to read
    of their present condition.

    later
    bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (bliss dash sf4ever at
    dslextreme dot com)




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  • From Paul S Person@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 31, 2026 09:10:20
    On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 17:42:10 -0500 (EST), kludge@panix.com (Scott
    Dorsey) wrote:

    So, given the worries about F&SF, I picked up the latest copy at my
    local
    Barnes and Noble, along with the latest Asimov's. Both seem to be
    published now by Must Read Magazines. There were two copies of F&SF at
    the store and both were pretty ripped up, so I got the better of the
    two.

    I haven't got a copy of any SF magazine since the Covid shutdown and I
    was shocked at how poor the physical quality was. The paper on the
    covers is much thinner and poorly-made than in previous years, and the >printing was very uneven with some streaks of very light printing and
    some
    streaks of very heavy printing, like a badly-worn and poorly-adjusted
    web press. Nothing was illegible but some pages took some studying.

    The contents? I will give the new editors credit for trying to be
    inclusive.
    Almost all the fiction authors were bipoc folks, and there was a very
    good article reviewing a survey made of minority authors. None of the >stories were terrible, but every one that I read made me think that it
    could have been made into a better story by a good editor. There were >stories that were too long, stories that had some clumsy parts, and
    stories with some problems with their technology. Nothing that could
    not
    have been fixed up very quickly by John Campbell, but there was no
    John Campbell with his red pencil there to do it.

    So... I wish them luck, and I might consider subscribing just to see
    what
    happens, but this is a magazine that feels like it has some problems.
    Not insurmountable ones, but time is running out.

    Although I gave up on magazines after the Davis Disaster [1], I am
    sorry to hear of their current condition. This is, of course, a sign
    of financial stress: either they just aren't bringing in enough money,
    or the money they do bring in is being absorbed by overhead, or both.

    They deserve better.

    [1] In the mid-to-late 80's they really pushed their subs on current subscribers. They also chose to increase the number of issues and
    double issues, cutting down subscription length to compensate. The
    problem was that I couldn't keep up: I was reading /no/ fiction other
    than their magazines. So I stopped the subs (using a local newspaper's
    customer helper to "remind" them that I was entitled to a pro-rata
    refund on each sub). It took a good five years to get through the
    stack of accumulated novels.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

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  • From Scott Dorsey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 31, 2026 17:01:57
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    I could not find a way then to subscribe to
    the magazines aside from the Linux magazine. It is very depressing to read
    of their present condition.

    The asimovs.com and analogsf.com websites should have ways to take your
    money for subscriptions. Or send $57.75 for each magazine subscription
    you want for Analog, F&SF, and Asimov's, check payable to Must Read
    Magazines, 6 Prowett st, Norwalk, CT. 06855-1220.
    --scott


    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.8
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 31, 2026 14:27:50


    On 1/31/26 14:01, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    I could not find a way then to subscribe to
    the magazines aside from the Linux magazine. It is very depressing to read >> of their present condition.

    The asimovs.com and analogsf.com websites should have ways to take your
    money for subscriptions. Or send $57.75 for each magazine subscription
    you want for Analog, F&SF, and Asimov's, check payable to Must Read Magazines, 6 Prowett st, Norwalk, CT. 06855-1220.
    --scott


    #1 I no longer have funds due to being taken in by a confidence man
    and #2 the report on the product would discourage me from such
    action if I had the money.

    I have copied the sites mentioned above in case I should enjoy
    a reversal of my bad fortunes. Right now I am not sure of enough money
    to survive from month to month.

    bliss



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