Trump indicates that the war against Iran was won in the first hour.

The world thinks differently.

In Oman, an oil refinery/storage facility is on fire because an Iranian Shaheed struck it. An oil tanker is on fire in Iraq because an Iranian drone struck the ship. Iran has laid mines in the Strait of Hormuz. All of this doesn't sound like a war won by the US.

The Strait of Hormuz is closed.

In the US, people are now afraid that Iran will carry out terrorist attacks in the US.

In short, the US has started a war that it doesn't seem to be winning yet. The Iranian regime is not yet in danger. There is no popular uprising.

What was the goal of this war again?

Oh yes, there was no goal.

Now then, good luck with everything, because what are you going to achieve now?

Meanwhile, Brent oil is almost at $100 again.

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Trump has indicated that Iran has been defeated, but is now asking five countries for help to keep the Strait of Hormuz open. All five countries have indicated that they will not provide that help. This is a problem that the US caused and that the US must now solve.

Trump has indicated in response that NATO must help. I can only hope that NATO is smarter than that. The rest of NATO must be frugal with its weapons, because the US wants to conquer Greenland and threatens Canada's very existence. NATO must therefore absolutely NOT intervene in the Middle East. This attack was launched by the US. It is their problem to solve now. Trump threatens that NATO countries will face dark times if they do not come to help. I thought he had already won the war?

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Hello Joseph!

20 Jun 70 00:25, you wrote to all:

Trump has indicated that Iran has been defeated, but is now asking
five countries for help to keep the Strait of Hormuz open. All five countries have indicated that they will not provide that help. This is
a problem that the US caused and that the US must now solve.

A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were "obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was "set back years"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/irans-nuclear-facilities-have-been-obliterated-and-suggestions-otherwise-are-fake-news/


But 3 weeks ago we urgently needed to go to war with them to .... stop them from getting nuclear weapons? did they maybe mean that their nuclear program was set back "days" ?

Trump has indicated in response that NATO must help. I can only hope
that NATO is smarter than that. The rest of NATO must be frugal with
its weapons, because the US wants to conquer Greenland and threatens Canada's very existence. NATO must therefore absolutely NOT intervene
in the Middle East. This attack was launched by the US. It is their problem to solve now. Trump threatens that NATO countries will face
dark times if they do not come to help. I thought he had already won
the war?

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NATO has no obligation. we attacked Iran. I'm pretty sure the agreement is pretty specific that NATO only needs to help if a NATO member is attacked, not the other way around.




Mike


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Re: Has Iran been defeated?
By: Mike Miller to Joseph Pereira on Mon Mar 16 2026 12:41 pm

Yeah personally, I'm of the opinion we
deserve everything that comes from this
brainless conflict. It further blows my
mind that they really thought Iran
wouldn't use the one piece of leverage
they have, the strait. How goddamn
stupid are these idiots? Between Trump
and Netanyahu, these idiots are
single-handedly validating every
grievance the Iranian regime has ever
voiced.

They are literally giving Iranian
Theocracy credibility.

At this point I hope the gas hits over
$6 a gallon down here in FL, maybe some
people will finally learn this lesson.








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Re: Has Iran been defeated?
By: Mike Miller to Joseph Pereira on Mon Mar 16 2026 12:41 pm

Forgive my last message. I'm on a
C64 and it appears it doesn't play
nice when editing. I was just
agreeing with you that the level of
incompetence, stupidity, and lack
of imagination is un fuckin real.

We deserve the consequences of
this action.



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countries have indicated that they will not provide that help. This i a problem that the US caused and that the US must now solve.

A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were
"obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was "set back years"

It's been a year and he underestimated the rebuild time.

Surely Kamala would have done a better job. Let's vote for Kamala in 2028. She knows exactly how long it takes terrorists to rebuild nuclear weapons, unlike incompetent Trump.

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Hello Aaron!

20 Jun 70 15:08, you wrote to me:

countries have indicated that they will not provide that

help. This i

a problem that the US caused and that the US must now solve.

A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were
"obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was "set back
years"

It's been a year and he underestimated the rebuild time.

Or he lied. Most independent organizations/governments agreed that it hadn't done much to hamper Iran's nuclear ambitions.

So, was he lying then? or was he lying now?

Or, and my money is on this one: Was he lying both times?

Surely Kamala would have done a better job. Let's vote for Kamala in
2028. She knows exactly how long it takes terrorists to rebuild
nuclear weapons, unlike incompetent Trump.

If I believe she's the best candidate in 2028, I will vote for her. That said, there are others that I would prefer to win the nomination over her.

HOWEVER, she is not president. nor is Joe Biden. This discussion is about the actions and words of the current president.

Mike


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Re: Has Iran been defeated?
By: Mike Miller to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 17 2026 12:55 pm

Well we don't have to look far to see
he's lying. See the recent MAGA
resignation, dude says as much.

MAGA continues taking Ls that hurt
everybody for no reason while
refusing to acknowledge them.
Lessons will be learned eventually.


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A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were
"obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was "set back
years"

It's been a year and he underestimated the rebuild time.

Or he lied. Most independent organizations/governments agreed that it hadn't done much to hamper Iran's nuclear ambitions.

If someone gives an estimate of "years" and it turns out to be "a year" I don't consider that lying.

Biden said that he'd cure cancer if he became president. Was that Democrat lying? Obama said that he'd make healthcare affordable for all Americans. Was that Democrat lying?

You've got to give Trump some time. If it turns out that there was no such enrichment facility in Iran, then you get the right to call him a liar.

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