On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 04:08:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >>https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360790279/ardern-declines-request-appear-covid-inquiry

Absolutely beyond redemption - all of them. A disgrace and history will >>ascribe
guilt as it must.
How dare they! (with a nod for the first and only time to that awful Swedish >>woman).

Apologies for the typo in the header.

The inquiry does have the power to compel attendance, so it will be
interesting to see if this eventuates.


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Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 04:08:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360790279/ardern-declines-request-appear-covid-inquiry

Absolutely beyond redemption - all of them. A disgrace and history will >>>ascribe
guilt as it must.
How dare they! (with a nod for the first and only time to that awful Swedish
woman).

Apologies for the typo in the header.

The inquiry does have the power to compel attendance, so it will be >interesting to see if this eventuates.

I certainly it does - what problem can anyone have with transparency and truth?
I think they are running scared, and not for the pathetic reasons they said.



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On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 07:56:31 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 04:08:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360790279/ardern-declines-request-appear-covid-inquiry

Absolutely beyond redemption - all of them. A disgrace and history will >>>>ascribe
guilt as it must.
How dare they! (with a nod for the first and only time to that awful Swedish
woman).

Apologies for the typo in the header.

The inquiry does have the power to compel attendance, so it will be >>interesting to see if this eventuates.

I certainly it does - what problem can anyone have with transparency and truth?
I think they are running scared, and not for the pathetic reasons they said.

It depends on whether they see the inquiry terms of reference as fair
and equitable:

https://www.covid19lessons.royalcommission.nz/the-inquiry/the-inquirys-terms-of-reference

Ardern, Hipkins et al may well consider the 'Out of Scope' definitions
to be prejudicial to fairness, equally the same could be said of the
actual Terms of Reference. However this need to be defined. Simply
refusing to attend without a rationale on why is not acceptable.


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On 2025-08-13, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 07:56:31 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 04:08:26 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360790279/ardern-declines-request-appear-covid-inquiry

Absolutely beyond redemption - all of them. A disgrace and history will >>>>>ascribe
guilt as it must.
How dare they! (with a nod for the first and only time to that awful Swedish
woman).

Apologies for the typo in the header.

The inquiry does have the power to compel attendance, so it will be >>>interesting to see if this eventuates.

I certainly it does - what problem can anyone have with transparency and truth?
I think they are running scared, and not for the pathetic reasons they said. >>

It depends on whether they see the inquiry terms of reference as fair
and equitable:

https://www.covid19lessons.royalcommission.nz/the-inquiry/the-inquirys-terms-of-reference

Ardern, Hipkins et al may well consider the 'Out of Scope' definitions
to be prejudicial to fairness, equally the same could be said of the
actual Terms of Reference. However this need to be defined. Simply
refusing to attend without a rationale on why is not acceptable.

Reasons have appeared in the Stuff article and the legal beagles seem to be entering the ball park.

I always have an issue with terms of an inquiry as you end up in this situatuion. Splitting hairs and then needing to change the terms to get
answers to what is requested.

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