That fire in Christchurch that caused damage that will take months if
not years to repair; now this failure in the Wellington sewage
treatment system caused by an outflow pipe that wasn?t up to handling
the increased load during what should have been routine maintenance;
and of course the regular trouble in Auckland with beaches getting
contaminated during heavy rains ...

Seems the sewage-handling systems in our biggest cities aren?t quite
up to scratch for some reason. Is there a funding shortfall? Can
ratepayers afford what it would cost to do the job properly? Can they
afford the ongoing consequences of not doing it properly?

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 01:53:07 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro
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Can ratepayers afford what it would cost to do the job properly? Can they
afford the ongoing consequences of not doing it properly?

They could if they didn't waste money on climate change, expensive
train sets and other woke bullshit.

Bill.

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On Thu, 05 Feb 2026 18:05:11 +1300, BR wrote:

They could if they didn't waste money on climate change ...

Have you noticed house insurance premiums are going up?

If anybody knows that increased risks are not some kind of ?hoax?,
it?s the companies who have to pay out on those risks. Money talks,
and it doesn?t lie.

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On 2026-02-05, Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

That fire in Christchurch that caused damage that will take months if
not years to repair;

Yep, fire happened on 1 November 2021. Insurance settled October 2024, construction complete say 2030.

now this failure in the Wellington sewage
treatment system caused by an outflow pipe that wasn?t up to handling
the increased load during what should have been routine maintenance;
and of course the regular trouble in Auckland with beaches getting contaminated during heavy rains ...

Seems the sewage-handling systems in our biggest cities aren?t quite
up to scratch for some reason. Is there a funding shortfall?

Yes, it is an esential service so it only gets break down mtce. In the case
of Christchurch it was having open flames near comcustable materials.

The delay to date was over an insurance payout.

Can
ratepayers afford what it would cost to do the job properly?

Of course thay can.

Can they
afford the ongoing consequences of not doing it properly?

Yes, because that is what happens, it is repaired and then repeated when
very one forgets.






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On 2026-02-05, Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 05 Feb 2026 18:05:11 +1300, BR wrote:

They could if they didn't waste money on climate change ...

Have you noticed house insurance premiums are going up?

If anybody knows that increased risks are not some kind of ?hoax?,
it?s the companies who have to pay out on those risks. Money talks,
and it doesn?t lie.

It is so interesting how a third party has just say NO to insurance, result
is we will insure you house until you sell and then no isurance for the new buyer from us.

Oh look where the money has lead us to.

We need to reduce the risk, build/develop in places where the risk is a
great deal less.

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On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:23:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 05 Feb 2026 18:05:11 +1300, BR wrote:

They could if they didn't waste money on climate change ...

Have you noticed house insurance premiums are going up?

Everything goes up over time. My rates are going up faster than my
house insurance. The climate will do what it wants to do, and there
isn't a damn thing you, me, the council or anybody else can do about
it.

If anybody knows that increased risks are not some kind of ?hoax?,

Increased risks or shameless opportunism?

it?s the companies who have to pay out on those risks.

What risks?

Money talks, and it doesn?t lie.

That's a joke, right?

Bill.

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BR <blah@blah.blah> wrote:

On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:23:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 05 Feb 2026 18:05:11 +1300, BR wrote:

They could if they didn't waste money on climate change ...

Have you noticed house insurance premiums are going up?

Everything goes up over time. My rates are going up faster than my
house insurance. The climate will do what it wants to do, and there
isn't a damn thing you, me, the council or anybody else can do about
it.

Damn right!

If anybody knows that increased risks are not some kind of ?hoax?,

Increased risks or shameless opportunism?

it?s the companies who have to pay out on those risks.

What risks?

Money talks, and it doesn?t lie.

That's a joke, right?

No, he believes it.

Bill.

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On Sat, 07 Feb 2026 06:17:02 +1300, BR wrote:

On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 09:23:00 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D˜Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 05 Feb 2026 18:05:11 +1300, BR wrote:

They could if they didn't waste money on climate change ...

Have you noticed house insurance premiums are going up?

Everything goes up over time. My rates are going up faster than my
house insurance.

That, too, is part of it. It is up to the various level of Government
to fund the ?externalities? that private businesses do not consider to
be their responsibility.

Increased risks or shameless opportunism?

If it was ?shameless opportunism?, then free-market competition would
ensure prices did not increase too fast. So why are some people
finding their premiums are becoming unaffordable?

If it was ?shameless opportunism?, they wouldn?t also be calling a
halt to selling new policies in regions where they have decided the
risks are just too high.

Money talks, and it doesn?t lie.

That's a joke, right?

In what way?

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