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  • Wake up all for National: read the Taxpayer Union poll results

    From Crash@3:633/280.2 to All on Tuesday, August 12, 2025 18:13:22
    https://tinyurl.com/yc4kr2te

    National are simply not getting their message across: they are
    failing to convince those being polled that they are 'fixing the
    economy'.

    Based on this, National's election hopes rest not on their policy and performance record, but on the hope that the voters see
    Labour/Green/Maori Party as even worse.

    That sucks.


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    Crash McBash

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  • From Gordon@3:633/280.2 to All on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 09:49:04
    On 2025-08-12, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    https://tinyurl.com/yc4kr2te

    National are simply not getting their message across: they are
    failing to convince those being polled that they are 'fixing the
    economy'.

    Getting the economy fixed takes time and the voters want everything to be
    fixed by the end of the month. It is a great deal easier, and quicker, to destory something than fix it or construct it.

    With more money (income) the Government will be able to fix and improve more things. NZ needs to start to have a debate about how to share the greater
    tax burden. There are hint that this is coming but it will be a long
    process.

    Based on this, National's election hopes rest not on their policy and performance record, but on the hope that the voters see
    Labour/Green/Maori Party as even worse.

    This is typically the case. Voters throw Governments out because they are
    not doing well, not that the other parties have something better to offer.

    That sucks.

    True, but this is the real world we live in.

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  • From Crash@3:633/280.2 to All on Wednesday, August 13, 2025 17:44:22
    On 12 Aug 2025 23:49:04 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2025-08-12, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    https://tinyurl.com/yc4kr2te

    National are simply not getting their message across: they are
    failing to convince those being polled that they are 'fixing the
    economy'.

    Getting the economy fixed takes time and the voters want everything to be >fixed by the end of the month. It is a great deal easier, and quicker, to >destory something than fix it or construct it.

    With two budgets done now - there is no progress being made.

    With more money (income) the Government will be able to fix and improve more >things. NZ needs to start to have a debate about how to share the greater
    tax burden. There are hint that this is coming but it will be a long
    process.

    It should be possible, in a 3-year term, to show progress. The
    current Government is not.


    Based on this, National's election hopes rest not on their policy and
    performance record, but on the hope that the voters see
    Labour/Green/Maori Party as even worse.

    This is typically the case. Voters throw Governments out because they are
    not doing well, not that the other parties have something better to offer.

    Except that in 2026 the other parties will be Labour, the watermelons
    and the Maori Party. Labour is OK in that Hipkins tried to jettison
    policies adopted by them under Ardern's leadership, but the
    watermelons and the Maori parties are extremist in the core
    principles.


    That sucks.

    True, but this is the real world we live in.

    If National has some political spine it should be able to counter this
    with ease.


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  • From Willy Nilly@3:633/280.2 to All on Thursday, August 14, 2025 07:39:32
    On Wed, 13 Aug 2025, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    If National has some political spine it should be able to counter this
    with ease.

    "If National has some political spine it should be able to" replace
    Luxon as leader after his appalling performance over the past few
    days. The problem being how to look good in the process.


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