https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics
He has got it.

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On 12/10/25 07:45, Tony wrote:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics
He has got it.

Total crap. An attempt to redefine the term "genocide", then claiming
the term is too difficult for average Joe to understand.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard and so the average Joe has a valid legal basis for using
'genocide' in describing the events in Gaza. And so does Swarbrick.

The MAGA Zionists; PM Lux, Deputy PM Seymour, Foreign Minister Winston, Defence Minister Crusher are all giving Trump a b_job.
NZ is a signatory to ICJ and they have duty to uphold and respect it.




https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/507667/south-african-president-hails-ruling-against-israel-as-step-toward-justice

"The World Court ordered Israel on Friday to prevent acts of genocide
against the Palestinians and do more to help civilians,
although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire as requested by the plaintiff South Africa.
While the ruling denied Palestinian hopes of a binding order to halt the
war in Gaza, it also represented a legal setback
for Israel, which had hoped to throw out a case brought under the
genocide convention established in the ashes of the Holocaust.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard about whether Palestinian rights were being
denied in a war it said was causing grievous humanitarian harm."



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greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

On 12/10/25 07:45, Tony wrote:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics

He has got it.

Total crap. An attempt to redefine the term "genocide", then claiming
the term is too difficult for average Joe to understand.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard and so the average Joe has a valid legal basis for using
'genocide' in describing the events in Gaza. And so does Swarbrick.

The MAGA Zionists; PM Lux, Deputy PM Seymour, Foreign Minister Winston, >Defence Minister Crusher are all giving Trump a b_job.
NZ is a signatory to ICJ and they have duty to uphold and respect it.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/507667/south-african-president-hails-ruling-against-israel-as-step-toward-justice

"The World Court ordered Israel on Friday to prevent acts of genocide >against the Palestinians and do more to help civilians,
although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire as requested by the >plaintiff South Africa.
While the ruling denied Palestinian hopes of a binding order to halt the
war in Gaza, it also represented a legal setback
for Israel, which had hoped to throw out a case brought under the
genocide convention established in the ashes of the Holocaust.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard about whether Palestinian rights were being
denied in a war it said was causing grievous humanitarian harm."

Yes, another person unable to understand that there are two sides to this tragedy.
Sad really.

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On 13/10/25 10:10, Tony wrote:

greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

On 12/10/25 07:45, Tony wrote:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics
He has got it.

Total crap. An attempt to redefine the term "genocide", then claiming
the term is too difficult for average Joe to understand.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard and so the average Joe has a valid legal basis for using
'genocide' in describing the events in Gaza. And so does Swarbrick.

The MAGA Zionists; PM Lux, Deputy PM Seymour, Foreign Minister Winston,
Defence Minister Crusher are all giving Trump a b_job.
NZ is a signatory to ICJ and they have duty to uphold and respect it.




https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/507667/south-african-president-hails-ruling-against-israel-as-step-toward-justice

"The World Court ordered Israel on Friday to prevent acts of genocide
against the Palestinians and do more to help civilians,
although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire as requested by the
plaintiff South Africa.
While the ruling denied Palestinian hopes of a binding order to halt the
war in Gaza, it also represented a legal setback
for Israel, which had hoped to throw out a case brought under the
genocide convention established in the ashes of the Holocaust.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard about whether Palestinian rights were being
denied in a war it said was causing grievous humanitarian harm."

Yes, another person unable to understand that there are two sides to this tragedy.
Sad really.

Please explain. What 'side' am I missing? What did the ICJ fail to
consider in it's determination?





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greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

On 13/10/25 10:10, Tony wrote:

greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

On 12/10/25 07:45, Tony wrote:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics

He has got it.

Total crap. An attempt to redefine the term "genocide", then claiming
the term is too difficult for average Joe to understand.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard and so the average Joe has a valid legal basis for using
'genocide' in describing the events in Gaza. And so does Swarbrick.

The MAGA Zionists; PM Lux, Deputy PM Seymour, Foreign Minister Winston,
Defence Minister Crusher are all giving Trump a b_job.
NZ is a signatory to ICJ and they have duty to uphold and respect it.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/507667/south-african-president-hails-ruling-against-israel-as-step-toward-justice

"The World Court ordered Israel on Friday to prevent acts of genocide
against the Palestinians and do more to help civilians,
although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire as requested by the
plaintiff South Africa.
While the ruling denied Palestinian hopes of a binding order to halt the >>> war in Gaza, it also represented a legal setback
for Israel, which had hoped to throw out a case brought under the
genocide convention established in the ashes of the Holocaust.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard about whether Palestinian rights were being
denied in a war it said was causing grievous humanitarian harm."

Yes, another person unable to understand that there are two sides to this
tragedy.
Sad really.

Please explain. What 'side' am I missing? What did the ICJ fail to
consider in it's determination?

I was referring to the core of this issue which is the conflict in Gaza and surrounding countries, not the ICJ.

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On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 10:42:12 +1300, greybeard wrote:

Please explain. What 'side' am I missing? What did the ICJ fail to
consider in it's determination?

The fact that the Jews are ?God?s Chosen People? and the Palestinians are
not.

The fact that the Evangelical Christians need the state of Israel to
fulfil some prophecy they have about the Coming of the End Times. (Which
they look forward to, and damn the rest of us.)

But really it?s about having a place where Jews can ?voluntarily emigrate?
to so Christians don?t have to have them around as a daily reminder of centuries of persecution of the former by the latter, culminating in that
orgy of slaughter by a murderous nutcase group that saw themselves (and
were seen by others) as very much Christian in their beliefs.

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On 2025-10-12, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

On 12/10/25 07:45, Tony wrote:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360850060/chloe-swarbrick-how-should-we-define-her-contribution-politics

He has got it.

Total crap. An attempt to redefine the term "genocide", then claiming
the term is too difficult for average Joe to understand.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard and so the average Joe has a valid legal basis for using >>'genocide' in describing the events in Gaza. And so does Swarbrick.

The MAGA Zionists; PM Lux, Deputy PM Seymour, Foreign Minister Winston, >>Defence Minister Crusher are all giving Trump a b_job.
NZ is a signatory to ICJ and they have duty to uphold and respect it.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/507667/south-african-president-hails-ruling-against-israel-as-step-toward-justice

"The World Court ordered Israel on Friday to prevent acts of genocide >>against the Palestinians and do more to help civilians,
although it stopped short of ordering a ceasefire as requested by the >>plaintiff South Africa.
While the ruling denied Palestinian hopes of a binding order to halt the >>war in Gaza, it also represented a legal setback
for Israel, which had hoped to throw out a case brought under the
genocide convention established in the ashes of the Holocaust.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) found that there was a case to
be heard about whether Palestinian rights were being
denied in a war it said was causing grievous humanitarian harm."

Yes, another person unable to understand that there are two sides to this tragedy.
Sad really.

An arguement would not go on for so long if the fault was only on one side.

The middle east issue is complex and deep.

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