From: wn@nosuch.com

Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the
election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in
common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a
major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

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From: nogood@dontbother.invalid

On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 06:55:25 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the
election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in
common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a
major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

Where did these rumours come from? We have never had such a
Government. Snap elections usually happen only after the viability of
the current Government is jeopardised - so who among ACT and NZF might
cause this to happen?

I really cannot imagine any credibility to this.


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From: mutley2000@hotmail.com

wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the
election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in
common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a
major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

Voting for NZF worries me as Winston will go with labor if offered
the DPM roll and any other baubles. It will be ACT for me.

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From: Gordon@leaf.net.nz

On 2025-09-21, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 06:55:25 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the
election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in >>common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a
major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

Where did these rumours come from? We have never had such a
Government. Snap elections usually happen only after the viability of
the current Government is jeopardised - so who among ACT and NZF might
cause this to happen?

I really cannot imagine any credibility to this.

We have to remember that the Coalition Government was not going to last a
year, then there would be an early election by the end of 2025.

It might be a rumour which is having another go at breaking the coalition up. The Government has been attacked at over its poor efforts to get the economy going within 6 months.

If the major parties have no minor party support then they are unlikely to
get in. The old divide and rule.

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From: nogood@dontbother.invalid

On 22 Sep 2025 01:19:52 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2025-09-21, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Sep 2025 06:55:25 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

Rumours are that there is a snap election in the air for the purpose
of forming a National-Labour Grand Coalition from Hell after the >>>election. This is because (so it is said) Luxon feels he has nore in >>>common with Chippy than with Seymour or Winston.

I have no personal knowledge of this, but it is worth passing on as a >>>major warning. If there is a snap election, be ready to vote NZFirst
or ACT if you don't want Labour back in.

Where did these rumours come from? We have never had such a
Government. Snap elections usually happen only after the viability of
the current Government is jeopardised - so who among ACT and NZF might
cause this to happen?

I really cannot imagine any credibility to this.

We have to remember that the Coalition Government was not going to last a >year, then there would be an early election by the end of 2025.

That was based on the volatility expected of Winston while in a
Government that also included Seymour. Well Winston has behaved and
although Seymour has got up his nose from time to time Winston has
kept his cool.

None of the 3 Government parties will want to fight an election now
because the result will not benefit them. With Labour/Green/Maori
being right up there in the polls who would risk turning polling
conjecture into reality? Snap elections only happen when the current
major government party is certain that they will get more MPs than at
present. That's not the case at present.

It might be a rumour which is having another go at breaking the coalition up. >The Government has been attacked at over its poor efforts to get the economy >going within 6 months.

If the major parties have no minor party support then they are unlikely to >get in. The old divide and rule.

I would suggest it is time for both National and Labour to put
together a Government based on confidence-and-supply agreements rather
than coalitions. This would mean less certainty in getting
legislation passed but it also eliminates the impression that the
minor parties have too much influence on the government with just
small numbers of MPs. It might take a while to have minority
Governments but the major party would get its economic agenda through
with guaranteed support and if they cannot get other legislation
passed then they can play the thwarted card - that the small parties
are thwarting the big party from doing what it said it would do.



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