• Can't access USB thumbdrives

    From Chris Ramsden@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 21:40:01
    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB
    thumbdrives.ÿ

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser (caja),
    nor in df.ÿ

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into
    windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.ÿ

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in any USB thumbdrives for a few weeks.ÿ

    Despite all this the machine boots from an external USB-connected SSD.
    It's using wired ethernet via a Startech multi function USB hub, so
    it's obvious that the USB is largely working. I have tried connecting
    the thumbdrives directly into the computer's USB ports (i.e. not via
    external USB hubs) and no change.ÿ

    Any suggestions? Any other info required?

    Chris

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Cindy Sue Causey@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 22:40:01
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 20:38 +0100, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.ÿ

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser
    (caja),
    nor in df.ÿ

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into
    windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.ÿ

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in any USB thumbdrives for a few weeks.ÿ



    Hi.. This sounds familiar, like something I experienced with Thunar
    ages ago. I can remember finally stumbling upon "Enable Volume
    Management" in Thunar's settings. That option specifically references
    removable drives, devices, and media.

    No clue what triggered mine to fail. Maybe settings became corrupted
    during a new debootstrap install or suchly. A glitchy software update
    could have been the culprit, too.

    Mine's currently unticked meaning I haven't had to enable that feature
    in a long time. Meanwhile, everything I plug in works as expected these
    days.

    My thought process in replying is that it might help to try a search on keywords like volume management, Debian, and one's personal choice of
    file manager.

    Maybe it will help... Maybe.

    Cindy :)

    Afterthought: I tried my own suggested search. DuckDuckGo concluded by
    saying, "While you can use Caja for USB volume management, it might not
    handle automounting and other features as effectively as Dolphin or
    other KDE-specific file managers."

    For what it's worth: Thunar used to be installable (and thus also uninstallable) as a stand-alone package regardless of the desktop
    environment (e.g. LXDE). Thunar could be used to test if it sees what's currently not appearing otherwise.

    "Enable Volume Management" setting can be found toward the bottom of:

    Edit > Preferences > Advanced (tab)

    In enabling my own just now, I see references to mount and auto-run.
    THAT would be why mine is not enabled. I can't stand when that happens
    because I have so many various partitions attached in my setup.

    But, as I said previously, mine started working again after I messed
    with that a few years ago. Either there was a timely software update
    (possibly even as a fix to a reported bug) or ticking "Enable Volume Management" on for a few minutes generated a config file of some sort
    in my daily user's home directory.

    PPS DuckDuckGo did explicitly reference the Dolphin file manager in
    case a user wants to stay as true to KDE applications as possible...

    --
    Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
    * runs with birdseed! *

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Robert Heller@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 22:40:01
    Do you have a disk mounter thingy in your panel? Can you mount them that way?

    It *sounds* like your system has stopped *auto* mounting the thumbdrives.

    One other possibility: the thumbdrives are not FAT32, but are exFat or NTFS and you don't have the FS infrasture needed installed (or something like that). Are these *large* thumbdrives (>= 64Gig)?

    At Sat, 06 Jun 2026 20:38:36 +0100 Chris Ramsden <chris.ramsden@gmail.com> wrote:


    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.?ÿ

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser (caja),
    nor in df.?ÿ

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into
    windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.?ÿ

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in any USB thumbdrives for a few weeks.?ÿ

    Despite all this the machine boots from an external USB-connected SSD.
    It's using wired ethernet via a Startech multi function USB hub, so
    it's obvious that the USB is largely working. I have tried connecting
    the thumbdrives directly into the computer's USB ports (i.e. not via
    external USB hubs) and no change.?ÿ

    Any suggestions? Any other info required?

    Chris




    --
    Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364
    Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services
    http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services
    heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Robert Heller@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 22:50:01
    At Sat, 6 Jun 2026 16:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:


    Do you have a disk mounter thingy in your panel? Can you mount them that way?

    If you are using the Mate desktop, you probably have mate-applets installed and that should give you an applet named diskmount, which you can add to your panel. And it should let you mount thrumb drives with it.



    It *sounds* like your system has stopped *auto* mounting the thumbdrives.

    One other possibility: the thumbdrives are not FAT32, but are exFat or NTFS and you don't have the FS infrasture needed installed (or something like that). Are these *large* thumbdrives (>= 64Gig)?

    At Sat, 06 Jun 2026 20:38:36 +0100 Chris Ramsden <chris.ramsden@gmail.com> wrote:


    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.???????ÿ

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser (caja),
    nor in df.???????ÿ

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into
    windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.???????ÿ

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in any USB thumbdrives for a few weeks.???????ÿ

    Despite all this the machine boots from an external USB-connected SSD.
    It's using wired ethernet via a Startech multi function USB hub, so
    it's obvious that the USB is largely working. I have tried connecting
    the thumbdrives directly into the computer's USB ports (i.e. not via external USB hubs) and no change.???????ÿ

    Any suggestions? Any other info required?

    Chris




    --
    Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364
    Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services





    --
    Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364
    Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services
    http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services
    heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris Ramsden@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 22:50:01
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:37 -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 20:38 +0100, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.ÿ

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser
    (caja),
    nor in df.ÿ

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into
    windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.ÿ

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in any
    USB
    thumbdrives for a few weeks.ÿ



    Hi.. This sounds familiar, like something I experienced with Thunar
    ages ago. I can remember finally stumbling upon "Enable Volume
    Management" in Thunar's settings. That option specifically references removable drives, devices, and media.

    No clue what triggered mine to fail. Maybe settings became corrupted
    during a new debootstrap install or suchly. A glitchy software update
    could have been the culprit, too.

    Mine's currently unticked meaning I haven't had to enable that
    feature
    in a long time. Meanwhile, everything I plug in works as expected
    these
    days.

    My thought process in replying is that it might help to try a search
    on
    keywords like volume management, Debian, and one's personal choice of
    file manager.

    Maybe it will help... Maybe.

    Cindy :)

    Afterthought: I tried my own suggested search. DuckDuckGo concluded
    by
    saying, "While you can use Caja for USB volume management, it might
    not
    handle automounting and other features as effectively as Dolphin or
    other KDE-specific file managers."

    For what it's worth: Thunar used to be installable (and thus also uninstallable) as a stand-alone package regardless of the desktop
    environment (e.g. LXDE). Thunar could be used to test if it sees
    what's
    currently not appearing otherwise.

    "Enable Volume Management" setting can be found toward the bottom of:

    Edit > Preferences > Advanced (tab)

    In enabling my own just now, I see references to mount and auto-run.
    THAT would be why mine is not enabled. I can't stand when that
    happens
    because I have so many various partitions attached in my setup.

    But, as I said previously, mine started working again after I messed
    with that a few years ago. Either there was a timely software update (possibly even as a fix to a reported bug) or ticking "Enable Volume Management" on for a few minutes generated a config file of some sort
    in my daily user's home directory.

    PPS DuckDuckGo did explicitly reference the Dolphin file manager in
    case a user wants to stay as true to KDE applications as possible...
    Thanks Cindy, some useful ideas there, but I am doubtful that if it
    doesn't appear in df, it's not going to be accessible to higher lever
    tools.ÿ

    I'll try some other file managers.ÿ

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris Ramsden@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 22:50:01
    At Sat, 06 Jun 2026 20:38:36 +0100 Chris Ramsden <chris.ramsden@gmail.com> wrote:


    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser
    (caja),
    nor in df.

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into
    windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in any
    USB
    thumbdrives for a few weeks.

    Despite all this the machine boots from an external USB-connected
    SSD.
    It's using wired ethernet via a Startech multi function USB hub, so
    it's obvious that the USB is largely working. I have tried
    connecting
    the thumbdrives directly into the computer's USB ports (i.e. not
    via
    external USB hubs) and no change.

    Any suggestions? Any other info required?

    Chris



    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:32 -0400, Robert Heller wrote:
    Do you have a disk mounter thingy in your panel?ÿ Can you mount them
    that way?

    It *sounds* like your system has stopped *auto* mounting the
    thumbdrives.

    One other possibility: the thumbdrives are not FAT32, but are exFat
    or NTFSÿ
    and you don't have the FS infrasture needed installed (or something
    likeÿ
    that).ÿ Are these *large* thumbdrives (>= 64Gig)?

    I have tried with both large (256 GB) and small (4 GB). The small drive
    is definitely FAT32. Both have worked in this computer in the past. ÿ

    I have also just found it treats a USB CD/DVD drive in the same way;
    appears in lsusb but not in df or in the file browser.ÿThis is really
    annoying because the reason for plugging in the thumbdrive was to burn
    a CD.

    This DE doesn't appear to have a disk mounter.ÿ

    Chris.ÿ

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Robert Heller@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 23:00:01
    At Sat, 06 Jun 2026 21:43:13 +0100 Chris Ramsden <chris.ramsden@gmail.com> wrote:


    At Sat, 06 Jun 2026 20:38:36 +0100 Chris Ramsden <chris.ramsden@gmail.com> wrote:


    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser
    (caja),
    nor in df.

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into
    windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in any
    USB
    thumbdrives for a few weeks.

    Despite all this the machine boots from an external USB-connected
    SSD.
    It's using wired ethernet via a Startech multi function USB hub, so
    it's obvious that the USB is largely working. I have tried
    connecting
    the thumbdrives directly into the computer's USB ports (i.e. not
    via
    external USB hubs) and no change.

    Any suggestions? Any other info required?

    Chris



    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:32 -0400, Robert Heller wrote:
    Do you have a disk mounter thingy in your panel??ÿ Can you mount them
    that way?

    It *sounds* like your system has stopped *auto* mounting the
    thumbdrives.

    One other possibility: the thumbdrives are not FAT32, but are exFat
    or NTFS?ÿ
    and you don't have the FS infrasture needed installed (or something
    like?ÿ
    that).?ÿ Are these *large* thumbdrives (>= 64Gig)?

    I have tried with both large (256 GB) and small (4 GB). The small drive
    is definitely FAT32. Both have worked in this computer in the past. ?ÿ

    I have also just found it treats a USB CD/DVD drive in the same way;
    appears in lsusb but not in df or in the file browser.?ÿThis is really annoying because the reason for plugging in the thumbdrive was to burn
    a CD.

    This DE doesn't appear to have a disk mounter.?ÿ

    You probably don't have it in you panel -- it might not be a default applet, but if you have mate-applets installed, it is available -- right click on the panel and select "add to panel", and you should get a list of applets to add and the disk mounter should be in that list.

    (There are all sorts of reasons *not* to automount disks.)


    Chris.?ÿ




    --
    Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364
    Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services
    http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services
    heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris Ramsden@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 23:10:02
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:53 -0400, Robert Heller wrote:
    At Sat, 06 Jun 2026 21:43:13 +0100 Chris Ramsden
    <chris.ramsden@gmail.com> wrote:


    At Sat, 06 Jun 2026 20:38:36 +0100 Chris Ramsden
    <chris.ramsden@gmail.com> wrote:


    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising
    USB
    thumbdrives.

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser
    (caja),
    nor in df.

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in
    any
    USB
    thumbdrives for a few weeks.

    Despite all this the machine boots from an external USB-
    connected
    SSD.
    It's using wired ethernet via a Startech multi function USB
    hub, so
    it's obvious that the USB is largely working. I have tried
    connecting
    the thumbdrives directly into the computer's USB ports (i.e.
    not
    via
    external USB hubs) and no change.

    Any suggestions? Any other info required?

    Chris



    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:32 -0400, Robert Heller wrote:
    Do you have a disk mounter thingy in your panel? Can you mount
    them
    that way?

    It *sounds* like your system has stopped *auto* mounting the
    thumbdrives.

    One other possibility: the thumbdrives are not FAT32, but are
    exFat
    or NTFS
    and you don't have the FS infrasture needed installed (or
    something
    like
    that). Are these *large* thumbdrives (>= 64Gig)?

    I have tried with both large (256 GB) and small (4 GB). The small
    drive
    is definitely FAT32. Both have worked in this computer in the past.

    I have also just found it treats a USB CD/DVD drive in the same
    way;
    appears in lsusb but not in df or in the file browser.This is
    really
    annoying because the reason for plugging in the thumbdrive was to
    burn
    a CD.

    This DE doesn't appear to have a disk mounter.

    You probably don't have it in you panel -- it might not be a default
    applet,
    but if you have mate-applets installed, it is available -- right
    click on the
    panel and select "add to panel", and you should get a list of applets
    to add
    and the disk mounter should be in that list.

    (There are all sorts of reasons *not* to automount disks.)


    Chris.



    mate-applets was already installed.ÿ

    Yes, it appears as "Disk Mounter", but this shows only the devices I
    can already see; an SD card and the various partitions on the internal
    and external SSDs.ÿ

    Chris.ÿ

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris Ramsden@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 23:10:02
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 21:46 +0100, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:37 -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 20:38 +0100, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising
    USB
    thumbdrives.ÿ

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser
    (caja),
    nor in df.ÿ

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into
    windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.ÿ

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in any
    USB
    thumbdrives for a few weeks.ÿ



    For what it's worth: Thunar used to be installable (and thus also uninstallable) as a stand-alone package regardless of the desktop environment (e.g. LXDE). Thunar could be used to test if it sees
    what's
    currently not appearing otherwise.

    <snip>
    Thanks Cindy, some useful ideas there, but I am doubtful that if it
    doesn't appear in df, it's not going to be accessible to higher lever
    tools.ÿ

    I'll try some other file managers.ÿ
    No luck with either Dolphin or Thunar.ÿ

    Feels like a re-install might be the way ahead. ?ÿ

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From nwe@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, June 06, 2026 23:10:02
    On 6/6/26 2:38 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.
    In that situation my first impulse would be to open a terminal and run
    sudo journalctl -f
    then plug in the offending drive and watch for errors

    Or
    sudo dmesg | tail
    right after plugging an offending drive might catch something

    Next I might open gparted and investigate from that angle.



    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris Ramsden@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 07, 2026 00:00:01
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:07 -0500, nwe wrote:
    ÿ
    On 6/6/26 2:38 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    ÿ
    ÿ
    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.
    ÿ
    ÿIn that situation my first impulse would be to open a terminal and
    run
    ÿsudo journalctl -f
    ÿthen plug in the offending drive and watch for errors
    Or
    ÿsudo dmesg | tail
    ÿright after plugging an offending drive might catch something
    ÿ
    ÿ
    ÿ
    Next I might open gparted and investigate from that angle.
    ÿ
    Aha!

    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: New USB device found,
    idVendor=03f0, idProduct=3407, bcdDevice= 1.00
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: New USB device strings:
    Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Product: v135w
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Manufacturer: HP
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: SerialNumber: 00000000000499
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Device is not authorized for
    usage

    But gparted can't see this drive.ÿ

    Also, there are many repeats of "Device is not authorized for usage"
    for stuff that does appear to be working, e.g. the ethernet port and my
    SSDs.ÿ

    Chris

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Bob McGowan@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 07, 2026 00:00:01
    On 6/6/26 01:46 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:37 -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 20:38 +0100, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB
    thumbdrives.

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser
    (caja),
    nor in df.

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into
    windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in any
    USB
    thumbdrives for a few weeks.


    Hi.. This sounds familiar, like something I experienced with Thunar
    ages ago. I can remember finally stumbling upon "Enable Volume
    Management" in Thunar's settings. That option specifically references
    removable drives, devices, and media.

    No clue what triggered mine to fail. Maybe settings became corrupted
    during a new debootstrap install or suchly. A glitchy software update
    could have been the culprit, too.

    Mine's currently unticked meaning I haven't had to enable that
    feature
    in a long time. Meanwhile, everything I plug in works as expected
    these
    days.

    My thought process in replying is that it might help to try a search
    on
    keywords like volume management, Debian, and one's personal choice of
    file manager.

    Maybe it will help... Maybe.

    Cindy :)

    Afterthought: I tried my own suggested search. DuckDuckGo concluded
    by
    saying, "While you can use Caja for USB volume management, it might
    not
    handle automounting and other features as effectively as Dolphin or
    other KDE-specific file managers."

    For what it's worth: Thunar used to be installable (and thus also
    uninstallable) as a stand-alone package regardless of the desktop
    environment (e.g. LXDE). Thunar could be used to test if it sees
    what's
    currently not appearing otherwise.

    "Enable Volume Management" setting can be found toward the bottom of:

    Edit > Preferences > Advanced (tab)

    In enabling my own just now, I see references to mount and auto-run.
    THAT would be why mine is not enabled. I can't stand when that
    happens
    because I have so many various partitions attached in my setup.

    But, as I said previously, mine started working again after I messed
    with that a few years ago. Either there was a timely software update
    (possibly even as a fix to a reported bug) or ticking "Enable Volume
    Management" on for a few minutes generated a config file of some sort
    in my daily user's home directory.

    PPS DuckDuckGo did explicitly reference the Dolphin file manager in
    case a user wants to stay as true to KDE applications as possible...
    Thanks Cindy, some useful ideas there, but I am doubtful that if it
    doesn't appear in df, it's not going to be accessible to higher lever
    tools.

    I'll try some other file managers.

    Based on recent experience, df seems to be concerned only with mounted
    file systems.

    So if your thumbdrive is not mounting df will not report it.

    Bob

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.15
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Chris Ramsden@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 07, 2026 00:10:01
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:07 -0500, nwe wrote:
    ÿ
    On 6/6/26 2:38 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    ÿ
    ÿ
    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.
    ÿ
    ÿIn that situation my first impulse would be to open a terminal and
    run
    ÿsudo journalctl -f
    ÿthen plug in the offending drive and watch for errors
    Or
    ÿsudo dmesg | tail
    ÿright after plugging an offending drive might catch something
    ÿ
    ÿ
    ÿ
    Next I might open gparted and investigate from that angle.
    ÿ
    journalctl says:

    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: New USB device found,
    idVendor=03f0, idProduct=3407, bcdDevice= 1.00
    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: New USB device strings:
    Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Product: v135w
    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Manufacturer: HP
    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: SerialNumber: 00000000000499
    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Device is not authorized for
    usage

    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook kernel: usb 2-3.2: New USB device found,
    idVendor=0781, idProduct=55a3, bcdDevice= 1.00
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook kernel: usb 2-3.2: New USB device strings:
    Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook kernel: usb 2-3.2: Product: SanDisk 3.2Gen1
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook kernel: usb 2-3.2: Manufacturer: USB
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook kernel: usb 2-3.2: SerialNumber: <redacted>
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook kernel: usb 2-3.2: Device is not authorized for
    usage
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook mtp-probe[9324]: checking bus 2, device 10: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/usb2/2-3/2-3.2"
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook mtp-probe[9324]: bus: 2, device: 10 was not an
    MTP device
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook mtp-probe[9326]: checking bus 2, device 10: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0d.0/usb2/2-3/2-3.2"
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook mtp-probe[9326]: bus: 2, device: 10 was not an
    MTP device

    But gparted can't see either of these thumbdrives.

    And I have also found it cannot connect to a USB camera, though again
    it appears in lsusb.

    Chris.

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  • From Chris Ramsden@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 07, 2026 00:10:02
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 14:40 -0700, Bob McGowan wrote:
    On 6/6/26 01:46 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:37 -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 20:38 +0100, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    Asus Zenbook
    Debian 13 Trixie
    Mate DE

    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising
    USB
    thumbdrives.

    They are listed in lsusb, but do not appear in my file browser
    (caja),
    nor in df.

    The same machine sees the same USB thumbdrives when booted into windows, so it appears not to be faulty hardware.

    I can't say when this started happening; I haven't plugged in
    any
    USB
    thumbdrives for a few weeks.


    <snip>

    Based on recent experience, df seems to be concerned only with
    mounted
    file systems.

    So if your thumbdrive is not mounting df will not report it.

    Bob
    Clearly, these drives are not being mounted!ÿ

    But also a CD/DVD drive and a USB camera fail to connect, whilst being
    listed in lsusb. Is "mount" relevant to non-storage devices such as
    cameras?ÿ

    It feels a bit deeper than just not mounting.ÿ

    Chris.ÿ

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  • From nwe@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 07, 2026 00:20:01
    On 6/6/26 5:00 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:

    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Device is not authorized for
    usage
    I have never before noticed such a message. I suspect that is directly
    related to the problem, even if other classes of USB devices are working
    in spite of that message. Hopefully someone here on Debian User will
    know how to proceed.

    Another suspicious message is

    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook mtp-probe[9326]: bus: 2, device: 10 was not an
    MTP device



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  • From Frank McCormick@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 07, 2026 02:10:01

    On 6/6/26 6:12 PM, nwe wrote:

    On 6/6/26 5:00 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:

    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Device is not authorized for
    usage
    I have never before noticed such a message. I suspect that is directly related to the problem, even if other classes of USB devices are
    working in spite of that message. Hopefully someone here on Debian
    User will know how to proceed.

    Another suspicious message is
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook mtp-probe[9326]: bus: 2, device: 10 was not an
    MTP device

    Could it be related?
    USBGuard daemon running on many Linux distributions that blocks
    hotplugged USB devices by default to prevent attacks.


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  • From Jeffrey Walton@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 07, 2026 03:10:02
    On Sat, Jun 6, 2026 at 9:04?PM Chris Ramsden <chris.ramsden@gmail.c
    wrote:

    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 16:07 -0500, nwe wrote:

    On 6/6/26 2:38 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:


    I have just noticed that this computer has stopped recognising USB thumbdrives.

    In that situation my first impulse would be to open a terminal and
    run
    sudo journalctl -f
    then plug in the offending drive and watch for errors
    Or
    sudo dmesg | tail
    right after plugging an offending drive might catch something



    Next I might open gparted and investigate from that angle.

    Aha!

    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: New USB device found, idVendor=03f0, idProduct=3407, bcdDevice= 1.00
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: New USB device strings:
    Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Product: v135w
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Manufacturer: HP
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: SerialNumber: 00000000000499
    Jun 06 22:43:16 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Device is not authorized for
    usage

    But gparted can't see this drive.

    Also, there are many repeats of "Device is not authorized for usage"
    for stuff that does appear to be working, e.g. the ethernet port and my
    SSDs.

    Have you searched for the terms Debian + USB + "Device is not
    authorized for usage"?

    Do you have USBGuard installed?

    Jeff

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  • From Chris Ramsden@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 07, 2026 09:50:01
    On Sat, 2026-06-06 at 20:00 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
    ÿ

    ÿ
    ÿ
    On 6/6/26 6:12 PM, nwe wrote:

    On 6/6/26 5:00 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:
    ÿ
    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Device is not
    authorized for
    usage
    ÿ
    ÿI have never before noticed such a message. I suspect that is
    directly related to the problem, even if other classes of USB
    devices are working in spite of that message. Hopefully someone
    here on Debian User will know how to proceed.
    ÿ
    ÿAnother suspicious message isÿ
    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook mtp-probe[9326]: bus: 2, device: 10 was not
    an
    MTP device

    Could it be related?ÿ

    USBGuard daemon running on many Linux distributions that blocks
    hotplugged USB devices by default to prevent attacks.ÿ

    To Jeffrey and Frank - yes it was USBGuard. I had quite forgotten I had installed it.ÿ

    "If it ain't broke, I haven't fixed it enough yet."

    Many many thanks.ÿ

    Chris.ÿ

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  • From Joe@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, June 07, 2026 10:20:02
    On Sat, 6 Jun 2026 17:12:07 -0500
    nwe <nwe@gitcoding.net> wrote:

    On 6/6/26 5:00 PM, Chris Ramsden wrote:

    Jun 06 22:55:14 Zenbook kernel: usb 3-3.2: Device is not authorized
    for usage
    I have never before noticed such a message. I suspect that is
    directly related to the problem, even if other classes of USB devices
    are working in spite of that message. Hopefully someone here on
    Debian User will know how to proceed.

    Another suspicious message is

    Jun 06 22:57:23 Zenbook mtp-probe[9326]: bus: 2, device: 10 was not an
    MTP device


    No, they all say that.

    --
    Joe

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