Will Debian add age verification to comply with Californian laws?
Looking forward to your answer!
Will Debian add age verification to comply with Californian laws?
Looking forward to your answer!
Will Debian add age verification to comply˙with Californian laws?
Looking forward to your answer!
Will Debian add age verification to comply with Californian laws?
Looking forward to your answer!
On 2026-03-06 11:41, Some Guy called wrote:
Will Debian add age verification to comply˙with Californian laws?
Looking forward to your answer!
It's a ludicrous requirement. And open-source projects will result in aMy take is that it is (and has always been) surveillance capitalism's wet dream. They paint themselves as "We vs Bureaucracy (aka The State)", but
fork, I'm sure.
The authors of the law clearly understand very little about the subject matter, or the privacy implications. That, or they understand fine and they plan to abuse the rights of users. Either way, I sense a fork coming.
This is what big-government types do. They create or find or invent a problem, then insist they can solve it, then make sure they don't solve
it, and use the continuing existence of the problem as another way to continue the campaign promise "elect me and I'll fix it," which they
have no intention to do.
"request the user's age or date of birth at "account setup" is reallyAh, the "bad gubmint" sound.
really gonna work, fer sure, this time.
This is what big-government types do. They create or find or invent a problem, then insist they can solve it, then make sure they don't solve
it, and use the continuing existence of the problem as another way to continue the campaign promise "elect me and I'll fix it," which they
have no intention to do.
On Fri, Mar 06, 2026 at 04:41:14PM +0000, Some Guy called wrote:):
Will Debian add age verification to comply with Californian laws?
Looking forward to your answer!
You might like to read the discussion here (will not answer your question
https://www.theregister.com/2026/03/06/os_age_verification/
On Fri, 2026-03-06 at 16:41 +0000, Some Guy called wrote:
Will Debian add age verification to comply˙with Californian laws?
Looking forward to your answer!
Why doesn't the ˙California legislature legislate something useful,
like faster-than-light spaceships?
The sudden eruption of these legislative actions over the past year hintAh, at last something useful -- and not the usual brainless
at a coordinated effort.
This Reddit user has done some investigation into the matter:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rmhxk1/i_pulled_the_actual_bill_text_from_5_state_age/
On Mon, Mar 09, 2026 at 06:41:02AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:A particular implementation may very well violate GDPR, making USA age verification illegal in Europe.
The sudden eruption of these legislative actions over the past year hint
at a coordinated effort.
This Reddit user has done some investigation into the matter:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rmhxk1/i_pulled_the_actual_bill_text_from_5_state_age/
Ah, at last something useful -- and not the usual brainless
libertarian noise. Thanks Nate.
Hi there
On 09/03/2026 12:50, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Mon, Mar 09, 2026 at 06:41:02AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:A particular implementation may very well violate GDPR, making USA age verification illegal in Europe.
The sudden eruption of these legislative actions over the past year hint >>> at a coordinated effort.
This Reddit user has done some investigation into the matter:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rmhxk1/i_pulled_the_actual_bill_text_from_5_state_age/
Ah, at last something useful -- and not the usual brainless
libertarian noise. Thanks Nate.
Regards,
Rob
France recently banned social media for everybody under 15.
How this is being enforced is anyone's guess.
On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 01:21:13PM -0000, Bigsy Bohr wrote:
France recently banned social media for everybody under 15.My other concern is (assuming that the ban really works) that children at age 15/16/... are suddenly allowed to use a social media of which they have no experience, have not learned to recognise & deal with the bad things that the ban protected them from ... will that not make them vulnerable to the bad predators/... ?
How this is being enforced is anyone's guess.
Nothing can prevent this. Whether you are 10, 20, 30 or 80, you always
need to be on guard. Nowadays predators, or whatever you want to call
them, have enough tools to hide their nature. It is a 'battle' between
the 'good' and the 'bad'. Personally I do not want those checks that are build in. They only bring Big Brother closer to our homes. Every barrier will be passed in the end, it might even be by the 'good' of today.
I once was called by a guy that told me that my PC was hacked and that
he needed access to my computer. When I refused, he threatened with the police because I was violating the law by helping criminals. I am still waiting, after over 6 years, for the police to come. Laws do not make me safe, they might help. The same goes with banning and age verification.
Both are certain to fail (in the long run). And what then? ID card in a
card reader? A sure way to disaster by ID theft.
On Tue, 2026-03-10 at 16:12 +0000, Bigsy Bohr wrote:
I don't entirely disagree. I think, in France, they once said that
over
25% of all 12-year-olds had seen hard porn on the Internet. I think
that's a problem. But I don't know how to solve it. Maybe it is
unsolvable in this day and age.
I grew up on a farm. Long before the internet was even a gleam in
Cerf's or Berners-Lee's eye, I saw hard porn almost every day. I don't remember how young I was the first time. That's the way it used to be
for 95% of us. The only difference from today is that it wasn't human
porn.
I don't entirely disagree. I think, in France, they once said that over
25% of all 12-year-olds had seen hard porn on the Internet. I think
that's a problem.
Bigsy Bohr wrote:
I don't entirely disagree. I think, in France, they once said that overWhy? In particular, why is it a problem that should be addressed by government?
25% of all 12-year-olds had seen hard porn on the Internet. I think
that's a problem.
I don't entirely disagree. I think, in France, they once said that over
25% of all 12-year-olds had seen hard porn on the Internet. I think
that's a problem. But I don't know how to solve it. Maybe it is
unsolvable in this day and age.
I am 71 years old. By the time that I was 10 I had seen Playboy,
Mayfair, ...
Alain Williams writes:
I am 71 years old. By the time that I was 10 I had seen Playboy,
Mayfair, ...
Likewise. These laws are attempts to enforce religious values. Where
is the evidence that seeing porn does any actual harm?
On Tue, 10 Mar 2026 16:45:03 -0000 (UTC)
Bigsy Bohr <curtyshoo@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-10, Van Snyder <van.snyder@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Tue, 2026-03-10 at 16:12 +0000, Bigsy Bohr wrote:
I don't entirely disagree. I think, in France, they once said that
over
25% of all 12-year-olds had seen hard porn on the Internet. I think
that's a problem. But I don't know how to solve it. Maybe it is
unsolvable in this day and age.
I grew up on a farm. Long before the internet was even a gleam in
Cerf's or Berners-Lee's eye, I saw hard porn almost every day. I don't remember how young I was the first time. That's the way it used to be
for 95% of us. The only difference from today is that it wasn't human porn.
That isn't my experience at all. I grew up in L.A. We only had access to soft-core magazines; to see hard porn, you had to travel to a movie
theater in a seedy part of town. Impossible to get by the cashier for a 12-year-old. This is far, far different from current situation.
YMMV.
I think he's referring to the farm animals reproducing. I wouldn't call
it hard porn though.
David
That isn't my experience at all. I grew up in L.A. We only had access to >> > soft-core magazines; to see hard porn, you had to travel to a movie
theater in a seedy part of town. Impossible to get by the cashier for a
12-year-old. This is far, far different from current situation.
YMMV.
I think he's referring to the farm animals reproducing. I wouldn't call
it hard porn though.
OTOH, it does illistrate the the basic mechanism of mamualian sexual reproduction... Eg which parts go together, etc.
David
Biological reproduction has nothing to do with the industry of
pornography, I can assure you.
On 2026-03-11, alain williams <addw@phcomp.co.uk> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 04:25:50PM -0000, Bigsy Bohr wrote:
Biological reproduction has nothing to do with the industry of
pornography, I can assure you.
Neither is reproduction the motivation most of the occasions when peoplehave
sex.
Your comment, as well as the comments of others, is orthogonal to the question: should children be exposed to anything and everything
on the Internet? This has no relation to religious beliefs, of
which I have none, coming from a secular background.
The education of children requires the establishment of limits and the mitigation of parental guidance. Everybody knows this, except you
idiotic and pathetic nerds.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 04:25:50PM -0000, Bigsy Bohr wrote:
Biological reproduction has nothing to do with the industry of
pornography, I can assure you.
Neither is reproduction the motivation most of the occasions when people have sex.
On 2026-03-11, alain williams <addw@phcomp.co.uk> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2026 at 04:25:50PM -0000, Bigsy Bohr wrote:
Biological reproduction has nothing to do with the industry of
pornography, I can assure you.
Neither is reproduction the motivation most of the occasions when
people have sex.
Your comment, as well as the comments of others, is orthogonal to the question: should children be exposed to anything and everything
on the Internet? This has no relation to religious beliefs, of
which I have none, coming from a secular background.
The education of children requires the establishment of limits and the mitigation of parental guidance. Everybody knows this, except you
idiotic and pathetic nerds.
Your comment, as well as the comments of others, is orthogonal to the question: should children be exposed to anything and everything
on the Internet? This has no relation to religious beliefs, of
which I have none, coming from a secular background.
The education of children requires the establishment of limits and the mitigation of parental guidance. Everybody knows this, except you
idiotic and pathetic nerds.
I would much rather than 12 y/olds see porn (most of which
illustrates consensual, non violent acts)
than the blood thirsty video games which no one seems concerned
about. I would rather that adults did not play some of these
games.
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