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    From X.Thevenot@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 20:50:01
    Hi,
    I found quite an incoherent information :
    "
    xav@xav-pc:~$ apt-cache policy udev
    udev:
    ˙Install‚˙: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    ˙Candidat˙: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    Table de version˙:
    *** 257.9-1~deb13u1 500
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    ˙˙˙˙257.8-1~deb13u2 500
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie-updates/main amd64
    Packages
    xav@xav-pc:~$ apt-cache policy systemd
    systemd:
    ˙Install‚˙: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    ˙Candidat˙: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    Table de version˙:
    *** 257.9-1~deb13u1 500
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    ˙˙˙˙257.8-1~deb13u2 500
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie-updates/main amd64
    Packages
    xav@xav-pc:~$
    "
    I don't know if any explanations are available.
    FI : LMDE (last version and update) / kde-wayland / dual boot windows
    (last version and drivers) ;
    '
    Operating System: LMDE 13
    KDE Plasma Version: 6.3.6
    KDE Frameworks Version: 6.13.0
    Qt Version: 6.8.2
    Kernel Version: 6.17.13+deb13-amd64 (64-bit)
    Graphics Platform: Wayland
    Processors: 12 ? AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 5650G with Radeon Graphics
    Memory: 32 Gio of RAM (30.7 Gio usable)
    Graphics Processor 1: AMD Radeon Pro WX 4100
    Graphics Processor 2: AMD Radeon Graphics
    '
    --
    Xavier M. Morisot Thevenot


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From didier gaumet@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 21:40:02
    Le 23/01/2026 … 18:31, X.Thevenot a ‚crit˙:
    Hi,

    I found quite an incoherent information :

    "

    xav@xav-pc:~$ apt-cache policy udev
    udev:
    ˙Install‚˙: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    ˙Candidat˙: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    Table de version˙:
    *** 257.9-1~deb13u1 500
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    ˙˙˙˙257.8-1~deb13u2 500
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages
    xav@xav-pc:~$ apt-cache policy systemd
    systemd:
    ˙Install‚˙: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    ˙Candidat˙: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    Table de version˙:
    *** 257.9-1~deb13u1 500
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    ˙˙˙˙257.8-1~deb13u2 500
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages
    ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages
    xav@xav-pc:~$

    "

    I don't know if any explanations are available.

    FI : LMDE (last version and update) / kde-wayland / dual boot windows
    (last version and drivers)
    [...]
    Hello Xavier,

    1) Why would that be incoherent? Yes deb13u1<deb13u2 but 257.9-1>257.8-1
    so that seems coherent to me.

    2) LMDE means Linux Mint Debian Edition. While it is (largely, in this
    case) based on Debian, it is not Debian. This is not a refusal to help,
    a Debian derivative can have sufficient differences to Debian to
    potentially render help by debianists inefficient or damageable.
    So please contact Linux Mint support via their channels (web forums,
    chat rooms) listed on this page:
    https://www.linuxmint.com/contactus.php

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Greg Wooledge@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 22:20:01
    On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 18:31:03 +0100, X.Thevenot wrote:
    I found quite an incoherent information :

    What's incoherent about it?

    xav@xav-pc:~$ apt-cache policy udev
    udev:
    ?Install?: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    ?Candidat?: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    Table de version?:
    *** 257.9-1~deb13u1 500
    ???????500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ???????500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages ???????100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    ????257.8-1~deb13u2 500
    ???????500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages ???????500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages xav@xav-pc:~$ apt-cache policy systemd
    systemd:
    ?Install?: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    ?Candidat?: 257.9-1~deb13u1
    Table de version?:
    *** 257.9-1~deb13u1 500
    ???????500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages
    ???????500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie/main amd64 Packages ???????100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
    ????257.8-1~deb13u2 500
    ???????500 http://deb.debian.org/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages ???????500 http://mirror.init7.net/debian trixie-updates/main amd64 Packages xav@xav-pc:~$

    "

    I don't know if any explanations are available.

    Explanations for what? I don't know what the question is.

    Are you asking why the version in trixie is higher than the version
    in trixie-updates? That's not a problem. It just means that the
    full Trixie 13.3 point release version (in the "trixie" repo) is newer
    than the one in the proposed updates repo ("trixie-updates"). The
    newer one will be used whenever there are two available versions, unless
    you specify otherwise.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From X.Thevenot@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 15:50:01
    Well, Ok ; thanks for your response,
    Something still makes me thinking strangely,
    why is there no existence of trixie-backports version of these packages ? Kernel and firmwares (both open and non-free) are on this "channel" but
    none related to this subject ... ...
    Xav


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dan Ritter@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 16:40:01
    X.Thevenot wrote:
    Well, Ok ; thanks for your response,

    Something still makes me thinking strangely,

    why is there no existence of trixie-backports version of these packages ?

    Kernel and firmwares (both open and non-free) are on this "channel" but none related to this subject ... ...

    The existence of any -backports package is never guaranteed, and changes
    over the course of a stable distribution's lifetime.

    -dsr-

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From X.Thevenot@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 17:10:01
    Thx, and sorry for all
    --
    -xmmt-


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)