• Re: Bookworm and updates question

    From Davidson@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 20:40:01
    On Thu, 22 Jan 2026, Bob McGowan wrote:

    I have two systems running bookworm, a laptop at 12.13 and a
    desktop at 12.11.

    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but
    the desktop refuses, telling me that repositories have changed
    "Version" and 'Codename' to various trixie related values.

    From this difference in behavior, I speculate that the laptop's /ets/apt/sources.list uses codenames (for example, "bookworm") to
    specify the desired suite in absolute terms whereas the desktop uses
    relative terms like "stable".

    In other words, (assuming that trixie is stable right now) if you look
    in the laptop's sources.list you'll see lines like

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free contrib

    but in the desktop's you'll see

    deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib

    I would like to stay on bookworm for a while and also to keep the
    two systems at the same level.

    How would I "fix" this so the desktop will update from bookworm?

    Compare the /etc/apt/sources.list on the two devices, and verify that
    my guess above is correct.

    If so, then the solution is to replace, in the desktop machine's
    sources.list, all uncommented instances of "stable" with "bookworm".

    If not (that is, if my guess is incorrect) then I don't know what's
    going on. And in that case, maybe start by showing us the content of
    /etc/apt/sources.list

    from the desktop machine.

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  • From Davidson@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 20:50:01
    On Thu, 22 Jan 2026, Greg Wooledge wrote:

    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:03:32 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but the >> desktop refuses, telling me that repositories have changed "Version" and >> 'Codename' to various trixie related values.

    Use "apt update" instead of "apt-get update" at least one time.
    This should prompt you to confirm that it's OK to update the Version
    and Codename values.

    I believe the OP said they wanted to stay on bookworm.

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  • From Greg Wooledge@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 20:50:01
    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:03:32 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but the
    desktop refuses, telling me that repositories have changed "Version" and
    'Codename' to various trixie related values.

    Use "apt update" instead of "apt-get update" at least one time.
    This should prompt you to confirm that it's OK to update the Version
    and Codename values.

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 21:20:01
    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:03:32AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
    <!DOCTYPE html>
    <html>
    <head>

    <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
    </head>
    <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p>I have two systems running bookworm, a laptop at 12.13 and a
    desktop at 12.11.</p>
    <p>I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories
    but the desktop refuses, telling me that repositories have changed
    "Version" and 'Codename' to various trixie related values.</p>
    <p>I would like to stay on bookworm for a while and also to keep the
    two systems at the same level.</p>
    <p>How would I "fix" this so the desktop will update from bookworm?</p>
    <p>Thanks,</p>
    <p>Bob</p>
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    </html>


    Hi Bob,

    What does your sources list say on the desktop?

    What's the difference between laptop and desktop /etc/apt/sources.list files?

    All the very best, as ever,

    Andy
    (amacater@debian.org)

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  • From Bob McGowan@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 22, 2026 23:50:01
    I use apt primarily when working from the command line.

    And I don't want to change to trixie, which is the implication of
    letting apt change things.

    Am I misunderstanding what apt will do?

    Thanks,

    Bob

    On 1/22/26 11:41 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:03:32 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but the >> desktop refuses, telling me that repositories have changed "Version" and >> 'Codename' to various trixie related values.
    Use "apt update" instead of "apt-get update" at least one time.
    This should prompt you to confirm that it's OK to update the Version
    and Codename values.


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  • From Jeffrey Walton@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 00:00:01
    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 5:36?PM Bob McGowan <ramjr98@yahoo.com> wro
    te:

    I have two systems running bookworm, a laptop at 12.13 and a desktop at 1
    2.11.

    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but the d
    esktop refuses, telling me that repositories have changed "Version" and 'Co dename' to various trixie related values.

    I would like to stay on bookworm for a while and also to keep the two sys
    tems at the same level.

    How would I "fix" this so the desktop will update from bookworm?

    Please provide the output of `cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v '^#' `.

    Jeff

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  • From Andy Smith@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 04:30:01
    Hi,

    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:03:32AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
    I have two systems running bookworm, a laptop at 12.13 and a desktop at 12.11.

    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but the desktop
    refuses, telling me that repositories have changed "Version" and 'Codename' to
    various trixie related values.

    At first reading I thought that this would be because you had "stable"
    instead of "bookworm" in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. However, you
    have since shown us the contents of that file and confirmed that it does
    say "bookworm".

    Therefore my next guess is that the message about repositories changing
    in fact talks about the next bookworm point release, 12.13, and not
    anything to do with trixie (which would be 13.x). Can you confirm the
    exact wording of the message please?

    If that is the case then the solution is as Andrew Cater mentioned: use
    "apt update" and it will prompt you to accept the change to the new
    point release of bookworm.

    If that's not the case and it really is offering to upgrade you to
    trixie then I am at a loss as to how, since you have showed us a
    sources.list that is still on bookworm. Possibly there is some other
    repository below /etc/.apt/sources.list.d/.

    Thanks,
    Andy

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  • From Bob McGowan@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 08:30:01
    On 1/22/26 07:25 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
    Hi,

    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:03:32AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
    I have two systems running bookworm, a laptop at 12.13 and a desktop at 12.11.

    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but the desktop
    refuses, telling me that repositories have changed "Version" and 'Codename' to
    various trixie related values.
    At first reading I thought that this would be because you had "stable" instead of "bookworm" in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. However, you
    have since shown us the contents of that file and confirmed that it does
    say "bookworm".

    Therefore my next guess is that the message about repositories changing
    in fact talks about the next bookworm point release, 12.13, and not
    anything to do with trixie (which would be 13.x). Can you confirm the
    exact wording of the message please?

    If that is the case then the solution is as Andrew Cater mentioned: use
    "apt update" and it will prompt you to accept the change to the new
    point release of bookworm.

    If that's not the case and it really is offering to upgrade you to
    trixie then I am at a loss as to how, since you have showed us a
    sources.list that is still on bookworm. Possibly there is some other repository below /etc/.apt/sources.list.d/.

    Thanks,
    Andy

    The desktop is down right now so this is not exact, but the "Version"
    says 12 -> 13 and "Codename" says trixie.

    Bob

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  • From Michel Verdier@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 09:00:02
    On 2026-01-22, Bob McGowan wrote:

    Please provide the output of `cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v '^#' `.
    [...]

    Could you also provide
    cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*

    PS : please use text only on this list and not html (option in
    thunderbird)

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  • From David@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 10:40:02
    On Fri, 23 Jan 2026 at 08:02, Bob McGowan <ramjr0915@gmail.com> wrote:

    The desktop is down right now so this is not exact, but the "Version"
    says 12 -> 13 and "Codename" says trixie.

    Hi Bob, just a quick comment based on decades of reading this list.

    this is not exact

    When responding here to requests for further information, If you adopt the discipline of only using "cut and paste" to provide that information, then
    that hugely assists everyone here to provide clear advice and directions.

    However, if you reply by "composing text and writing a story", then that invariably adds confusion, typo errors, and delay to resolving the issue.

    Instead, show us *exactly* what the computer shows you, so that we can see exactly what you see, in context and without typo errors.

    Strive to always "copy and paste" to do that. Even if that is fiddly and inconvenient, it is time well spent because it greatly facilitates us to resolve problems quickly and accurately.

    Typically use copy and paste into your email message to show us the comands
    you run and the output you see, plus the exact full contents of relevant
    files if requested.

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  • From Greg Wooledge@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 13:00:01
    On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 08:32:03 +0100, john doe wrote:
    On 1/23/26 08:08, Bob McGowan wrote:
    The desktop is down right now so this is not exact, but the "Version"
    says 12 -> 13 and "Codename" says trixie.

    Try to visually edit the sources.list file to see its location and if it matches the content of what you have provided on this list.

    To me, it looks like you might have multiple sources.list files being used.

    Agreed. Look for ANY files under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and
    either PASTE them or ATTACH them to your email so we can see their
    exact contents.

    Here's an example:

    ======================================================================= hobbit:~$ ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list
    ls: cannot access '/etc/apt/sources.list': No such file or directory
    hobbit:~$ ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
    total 12
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 130 Mar 4 2025 brave-browser-release.list
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 383 Aug 13 08:57 debian.sources
    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 190 Feb 17 2024 google-chrome.list
    hobbit:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources
    Types: deb
    URIs: https://deb.debian.org/debian
    Suites: trixie trixie-updates
    Components: main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
    Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg

    Types: deb
    URIs: https://security.debian.org/debian-security
    Suites: trixie-security
    Components: main non-free-firmware contrib non-free
    Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg =======================================================================

    I could show the other two as well, but I know they're not relevant
    to this discussion. In your case, however, it's unclear WHAT you have,
    so it's better to over-provide information than to under-provide it.

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  • From Max Nikulin@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 18:20:01
    On 23/01/2026 6:54 pm, Greg Wooledge wrote:
    Look for ANY files under/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and
    either PASTE them or ATTACH them to your email so we can see their
    exact contents.

    It is more straightforward to just execute

    apt policy

    It reports configured repositories and pinning.

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  • From Greg Wooledge@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 19:10:02
    On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 23:56:21 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
    On 23/01/2026 6:54 pm, Greg Wooledge wrote:
    Look for ANY files under/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and
    either PASTE them or ATTACH them to your email so we can see their
    exact contents.

    It is more straightforward to just execute

    apt policy

    It reports configured repositories and pinning.

    It doesn't tell you where those repositories are configured, though.
    The filenames are not included.

    The OP can run "apt policy" and include that in addition to showing
    the files, but I'd say the files are more useful.

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  • From Bob McGowan@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 21:20:01
    On 1/22/26 07:25 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
    Hi,

    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:03:32AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
    I have two systems running bookworm, a laptop at 12.13 and a desktop at 12.11.

    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but the desktop
    refuses, telling me that repositories have changed "Version" and 'Codename' to
    various trixie related values.
    At first reading I thought that this would be because you had "stable" instead of "bookworm" in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. However, you
    have since shown us the contents of that file and confirmed that it does
    say "bookworm".

    Therefore my next guess is that the message about repositories changing
    in fact talks about the next bookworm point release, 12.13, and not
    anything to do with trixie (which would be 13.x). Can you confirm the
    exact wording of the message please?

    If that is the case then the solution is as Andrew Cater mentioned: use
    "apt update" and it will prompt you to accept the change to the new
    point release of bookworm.

    If that's not the case and it really is offering to upgrade you to
    trixie then I am at a loss as to how, since you have showed us a
    sources.list that is still on bookworm. Possibly there is some other repository below /etc/.apt/sources.list.d/.

    Thanks,
    Andy

    I have checked /etc/apt/sources.list.d and files in it are the cause of
    the problem.

    I have always used /etc/apt/sources.list and avoided files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and so I missed on checking them.

    Thanks for the reminder to look there.

    Bob

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  • From Jeffrey Walton@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 23:10:01
    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 5:36?PM Bob McGowan <ramjr98@yahoo.com> wro
    te:

    I have two systems running bookworm, a laptop at 12.13 and a desktop at 1
    2.11.

    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but the d
    esktop refuses, telling me that repositories have changed "Version" and 'Co dename' to various trixie related values.

    I would like to stay on bookworm for a while and also to keep the two sys
    tems at the same level.

    How would I "fix" this so the desktop will update from bookworm?

    I just encountered the Version message. I installed Debian on a
    Windows laptop under Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL).

    The message also told me to run:

    sudo apt-get --fix-missing update

    which seemed to work for me.

    Jeff

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  • From Andrew M.A. Cater@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 23, 2026 23:10:01
    On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 03:25:18AM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
    Hi,

    On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:03:32AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
    I have two systems running bookworm, a laptop at 12.13 and a desktop at 12.11.

    I am still able to update the laptop from bookworm repositories but the desktop
    refuses, telling me that repositories have changed "Version" and 'Codename' to
    various trixie related values.

    At first reading I thought that this would be because you had "stable" instead of "bookworm" in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. However, you
    have since shown us the contents of that file and confirmed that it does
    say "bookworm".

    Therefore my next guess is that the message about repositories changing
    in fact talks about the next bookworm point release, 12.13, and not
    anything to do with trixie (which would be 13.x). Can you confirm the
    exact wording of the message please?


    Note - for the one running Debian 12.11 - it missed 12.12 and the latest version of bookworm is 12.13 released on 10th January 2026.

    It's confusing because the 10th Jan was a double point release - the Trixie version also incremented the same day.

    It's warning you that 12.11 is now 12.13, I expect.

    Just run apt and update it.

    Andrew Cater
    (amacater@debian.org)



    Thanks,
    Andy

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  • From Greg Wooledge@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 00:00:01
    On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 22:07:41 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    It's warning you that 12.11 is now 12.13, I expect.

    Just run apt and update it.

    That's what I thought, too, when I read the first message in this
    thread.

    It turns out the OP actually had multiple contradictory sources,
    one in /etc/apt/sources.list (bookworm), and one in some file
    under /etc/apt/sources.listl.d/ (trixie), neither of which we ever
    got to see.

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  • From Bob McGowan@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 02:00:01
    On 1/23/26 02:58 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
    On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 22:07:41 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
    It's warning you that 12.11 is now 12.13, I expect.

    Just run apt and update it.
    That's what I thought, too, when I read the first message in this
    thread.

    It turns out the OP actually had multiple contradictory sources,
    one in /etc/apt/sources.list (bookworm), and one in some file
    under /etc/apt/sources.listl.d/ (trixie), neither of which we ever
    got to see.

    Yes, I had files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that were causing the problem.

    I'm not sure why or when they were created.

    I discovered them this morning and simply moved them out of the way and
    my update/upgrade ran flawlessly.

    I did not think it necessary to send out copies of these errant files
    but if you think that would be helpful I can certainly do so.

    Bob

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  • From David@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 02:50:01
    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 at 00:51, Bob McGowan <ramjr0915@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/23/26 02:58 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

    It turns out the OP actually had multiple contradictory sources,
    one in /etc/apt/sources.list (bookworm), and one in some file
    under /etc/apt/sources.listl.d/ (trixie), neither of which we ever
    got to see.

    Yes, I had files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that were causing the problem
    .

    I'm not sure why or when they were created.

    I discovered them this morning and simply moved them out of the way and
    my update/upgrade ran flawlessly.

    I did not think it necessary to send out copies of these errant files
    but if you think that would be helpful I can certainly do so.

    Hi, how could *we* know if it would be helpful or not?
    Due to your communication style, we do not yet have any
    information from which to formulate a useful answer.

    What we know:
    - you had some files
    - we dont know their names
    - we dont know what they contain
    - something probably put them there for a reason
    - we dont know what put them there
    - you disabled them somehow

    ?\_((???))_/?

    It *could* be helpful to *you* if those files were there for a reason,
    and "moving them out of the way" without any understanding caused
    something else that you care about to break mysteriously in the future.

    By not showing us exactly what you are doing, and not sharing the
    details, you keep us in the dark, which means that we have less idea
    than you do about the answers to your questions.

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  • From Michel Verdier@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 07:10:01
    On 2026-01-23, Bob McGowan wrote:

    Yes, I had files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that were causing the problem.

    I'm not sure why or when they were created.

    I discovered them this morning and simply moved them out of the way and my update/upgrade ran flawlessly.

    Using files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is a better way than using a
    single /etc/apt/sources.list :
    https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

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  • From Svetlana Tkachenko@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 08:20:01
    Hi Bob

    Bob wrote:
    Yes, I had files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that were causing the problem.

    I'm not sure why or when they were created.

    I discovered them this morning and simply moved them out of the way and
    my update/upgrade ran flawlessly.

    Great news!

    I am assuming now that running `cat /etc/*release*` returns the correct version.

    The process sounded confusing. If you encounter such a situation again, with additional and unwanted files being created unexpectedly, please write back, and effort could be undertaken to identify the possible cause.

    Sveta

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  • From Bigsy Bohr@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 14:50:02
    On 2026-01-24, David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 24 Jan 2026 at 00:51, Bob McGowan <ramjr0915@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 1/23/26 02:58 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

    It turns out the OP actually had multiple contradictory sources,
    one in /etc/apt/sources.list (bookworm), and one in some file
    under /etc/apt/sources.listl.d/ (trixie), neither of which we ever
    got to see.

    Yes, I had files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that were causing the problem.

    I'm not sure why or when they were created.

    I discovered them this morning and simply moved them out of the way and
    my update/upgrade ran flawlessly.

    I did not think it necessary to send out copies of these errant files
    but if you think that would be helpful I can certainly do so.

    Hi, how could *we* know if it would be helpful or not?
    Due to your communication style, we do not yet have any
    information from which to formulate a useful answer.

    What we know:
    - you had some files
    - we dont know their names
    - we dont know what they contain
    - something probably put them there for a reason
    - we dont know what put them there
    - you disabled them somehow

    ?\_((???))_/?

    It *could* be helpful to *you* if those files were there for a reason,
    and "moving them out of the way" without any understanding caused
    something else that you care about to break mysteriously in the future.

    By not showing us exactly what you are doing, and not sharing the
    details, you keep us in the dark, which means that we have less idea
    than you do about the answers to your questions.


    My parents used to say: It's like pulling teeth.

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  • From songbird@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 16:20:02
    Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
    Hi Bob

    Bob wrote:
    Yes, I had files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that were causing the problem. >>
    I'm not sure why or when they were created.

    I discovered them this morning and simply moved them out of the way and
    my update/upgrade ran flawlessly.

    Great news!

    I am assuming now that running `cat /etc/*release*` returns the correct version.

    The process sounded confusing. If you encounter such a situation again, with additional and unwanted files being created unexpectedly, please write back, and effort could be undertaken to identify the possible cause.


    yes, also there may be an issue because he may have run an
    update which pulled in some trixie packages.

    while it may not be a major problem if only a few packages
    were updated it still will be considered a blended one and not
    only a bookworm system.


    songbird

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  • From Andy Smith@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 18:00:01
    Hi,

    On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 04:33:17PM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
    I did not think it necessary to send out copies of these errant files but if you think that would be helpful I can certainly do so.

    It's not helpful now, but not doing so made solving your problem much
    harder. We could have solved this with one reply, not this sizable
    thread.

    Showing the actual files or output of commands rather than your
    interpretation of them is essential when asking for support. That's
    because we humans are susceptible to only thinking we've seen what we
    expect to see, and it affects all of us.

    Thanks,
    Andy

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  • From Andy Smith@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 18:10:01
    Hello,

    On Sat, Jan 24, 2026 at 06:14:57PM +1100, Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
    The process sounded confusing. If you encounter such a situation
    again, with additional and unwanted files being created unexpectedly,
    please write back, and effort could be undertaken to identify the
    possible cause.

    The process of upgrading is only confusing if you had no intention to
    upgrade to a new major release and the existence of a new sources file triggered it! We don't know by what mechanism the extra sources file was created and I think balance of probability is that OP did it themselves
    and then forgot.

    Of course if it wasn't OP's action and OP does manage to work out what
    did it then it's probably a bug that should be reported.

    Thanks,
    Andy

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