• New to Debian list Group with problem

    From MartinGary Padgett@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 11, 2026 01:40:01
    Please someone respond to let me know if this message got to the Debian
    User group.
    On 2025 October 09 I opened for use a desktop computer which had not been
    used for six months. On the evening of October 14 I closed it in the usual
    way. The next morning I expected to reopen it also in the usual way.
    Instead I saw on the monitor a long list of 'failure messages' partially
    shown in the attachments to this message.
    At the end of the list is the statement "you are in emergency mode" and a series of instructions ostensibly to eliminate the failures. Unfortunately
    I could use them because the computer was not responding to any attempt in
    any way to access it. I consequently decided not to try to determine what
    is causing each failure. Instead I will try what I expect will be a quicker
    way to restore the computer: to reinstall the OS.
    For this purpose I used a CD-R disk Netinstall, "amd 64,12.7.0 Bookworm",
    the same one I used for the first OS installation in this computer. (It
    was I all had.) All went well until almost the end, when I received this disconcerting message: "'Executing' 'grub-install dummy' failed". I take
    this phrase to mean that neither grub nor EFI were ever installed. (Since 'sarge', when I first installed a Debian OS, I have never received such a message, nor indeed experienced such failures.)
    Further research will require a computer or an equivalent. As my only available computer is now unusable, I will have to find a suitable
    substitute. After some thought I decided that my tablet will have to do. So
    I spent intermittently the last three months learning what it can do for me and, perhaps more importantly, what it cannot. Luckily it can do emails
    going and coming, such as this one.
    I started by searching on line such titles as Debian, Debian wiki@gmail.com and DebianNetall grub. In short I was unable to match anything I found
    there to my situation. I did however ascertain that what I needed is some
    way to install grub etc. independent of what is already in the computer.
    Among my researches I however did find the following mentions: "rEFInd
    rescue media" and "Using Debian installer in rescue mode". Both of them
    seem to anticipate some sort of activity respecting grub and perhaps EFI.
    Since I have access to debian installer in rescue mode I scrutinized it.
    There I found a series of obtuse, at least to me, lines which may be
    relevant. If so, this neophyte is incapable of interpreting them.
    Consequently I have abandoned attempts to resolve alone this computer
    failure. I am now seeking assistance from the Debian-user group to help me.
    I will be grateful for any assistance from those in the group can help me.
    Fail1.jpg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/12hoAC8xriU_ISmQ3yvW_BRwxXa-ITDsv/view?usp=drivesdk>
    Fail2.jpg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lg0duq6aSL6RsOAqq3TSiG2cacaJfpmf/view?usp=drivesdk>


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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Dan Purgert@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 11, 2026 01:40:01
    On Jan 11, 2026, MartinGary Padgett wrote:
    Please someone respond to let me know if this message got to the Debian
    User group.
    It did.
    On 2025 October 09 I opened for use a desktop computer which had not been used for six months. On the evening of October 14 I closed it in the usual way. The next morning I expected to reopen it also in the usual way.
    Instead I saw on the monitor a long list of 'failure messages' partially shown in the attachments to this message.
    I don't think attachments make it through the mailing list. I'm not one
    to follow google-drive links either, sorry.


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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From David Christensen@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 11, 2026 03:10:01
    On 1/10/26 16:34, MartinGary Padgett wrote:
    Please someone respond to let me know if this message got to the Debian
    User group.

    On 2025 October 09 I opened for use a desktop computer which had not been used for six months. On the evening of October 14 I closed it in the usual way. The next morning I expected to reopen it also in the usual way.
    Instead I saw on the monitor a long list of 'failure messages' partially shown in the attachments to this message.

    At the end of the list is the statement "you are in emergency mode" and a series of instructions ostensibly to eliminate the failures. Unfortunately
    I could use them because the computer was not responding to any attempt in any way to access it. I consequently decided not to try to determine what
    is causing each failure. Instead I will try what I expect will be a quicker way to restore the computer: to reinstall the OS.

    For this purpose I used a CD-R disk Netinstall, "amd 64,12.7.0 Bookworm",
    the same one I used for the first OS installation in this computer. (It
    was I all had.) All went well until almost the end, when I received this disconcerting message: "'Executing' 'grub-install dummy' failed". I take this phrase to mean that neither grub nor EFI were ever installed. (Since 'sarge', when I first installed a Debian OS, I have never received such a message, nor indeed experienced such failures.)

    Further research will require a computer or an equivalent. As my only available computer is now unusable, I will have to find a suitable substitute. After some thought I decided that my tablet will have to do. So
    I spent intermittently the last three months learning what it can do for me and, perhaps more importantly, what it cannot. Luckily it can do emails going and coming, such as this one.

    I started by searching on line such titles as Debian, Debian wiki@gmail.com and DebianNetall grub. In short I was unable to match anything I found
    there to my situation. I did however ascertain that what I needed is some
    way to install grub etc. independent of what is already in the computer.

    Among my researches I however did find the following mentions: "rEFInd
    rescue media" and "Using Debian installer in rescue mode". Both of them
    seem to anticipate some sort of activity respecting grub and perhaps EFI. Since I have access to debian installer in rescue mode I scrutinized it. There I found a series of obtuse, at least to me, lines which may be relevant. If so, this neophyte is incapable of interpreting them.

    Consequently I have abandoned attempts to resolve alone this computer failure. I am now seeking assistance from the Debian-user group to help me.
    I will be grateful for any assistance from those in the group can help me.

    Fail1.jpg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/12hoAC8xriU_ISmQ3yvW_BRwxXa-ITDsv/view?usp=drivesdk>

    Fail2.jpg <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lg0duq6aSL6RsOAqq3TSiG2cacaJfpmf/view?usp=drivesdk>

    Please provide more information:

    1. What is the computer used for?

    2. What is your network environment and Internet connection?

    3. What is the make and model of the computer (or motherboard and case,
    if homebrew), the processor, the memory modules, the hard disk drive(s),
    the solid-state drives, and any other hardware other than keyboard,
    mouse, and monitor?

    4. Is the firmware BIOS, UEFI in Legacy mode, or UEFI? If UEFI, is
    Secure Boot enabled?

    5. What operating systems and/or file systems are on the various drives?

    6. What is the boot order setting in firmware/ non-volatile memory?

    7. What boot manager(s) are installed?


    Please take notes when installing Debian and post them. Please see my
    daily driver installation notes, below.


    David



    January 9, 2022

    1. Wipe Intel SSD 520 Series 60 GB drive in Intel DQ67SW. Insert
    debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst USB flash drive into USB 3.0 port
    adjacent Gigabit port. Boot:

    Debian GNU/Linux installer menu (BIOS mode)
    install
    Language C
    Continent or region North America
    Country, territory or area United States
    Keymap to use American English
    Hostname laalaa
    Domain name tracy.holgerdanske.com
    Root password ********
    Re-enter password ********
    Full name for new user debian
    Username for your account debian
    Choose a password ********
    Re-enter password ********
    Select your time zone Pacific
    Partitioning method Manual
    Select a partition... SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 60.0 GB ATA INTEL SSDSC2CW06
    Create partition table Yes
    Select a partition... pri/log 60.0 GB FREE SPACE
    Create a new partition
    New partition size 1 GB
    Type Primary
    Location Beginning
    Partition settings
    Use as Ext4 journaling file system
    Mount point /boot
    Mount options defaults
    Label laalaa_boot
    Reserved blocks 5%
    Typical usage standard
    Bootable flag on
    Done setting up the partition
    Select a partition... pri/log 59.0 GB FREE SPACE
    Create a new partition
    New partition size 1 GB
    Type Primary
    Location Beginning
    Partition settings
    Use as physical volume for encryption
    Encryption method Device-mapper (dm-crypt)
    Encryption aes
    Key size 256
    IV algorithm xts-plain64
    Encryption key Random key
    Erase data no
    Bootable flag off
    Done setting up the partition
    Select a partition... pri/log 58.0 GB FREE SPACE
    Create a new partition
    New partition size 13 GB
    Type Primary
    Location Beginning
    Partition settings
    Use as physical volume for encryption
    Encryption method Device-mapper (dm-crypt)
    Encryption aes
    Key size 256
    IV algorithm xts-plain64
    Encryption key Passphrase
    Erase data no
    Bootable flag off
    Done setting up the partition
    Configure encrypted volumes
    Write the changes to disk Yes
    Encryption configuration Create encrypted volumes
    Devices to encrypt
    [*] /dev/sda2 (1000MB; crypto)
    [*] /dev/sda3 (13000MB; crypt)
    Continue
    Encryption configuration Finish
    Encryption passphrase ********
    Re-enter passphrase ********
    Select a partition... #1 13.0 GB f ext4
    Partition settings
    Use as Ext4 journaling file system
    Mount point /
    Mount options defaults
    Label laalaa_root
    Reserved blocks 5%
    Typical usage standard
    Done setting up the partition
    Finish partitioning and write changes to disk
    Write the changes to disks Yes
    Debian archive mirror country United States
    Debian archive mirror deb.debian.org
    HTTP proxy information <blank>
    Package usage survey No
    Choose software Debian desktop environment
    Xfce
    SSH server
    standard system utiilties
    Device for boot loader installation
    /dev/sdb (ata-INTEL_SSDSC2CW060A3_********)
    Installation complete Continue

    Push and hold power button at POST; release when computer turns
    off. Remove USB flash drive.

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  • From songbird@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 11, 2026 15:20:02
    MartinGary Padgett wrote:
    ...
    Fail1.jpg
    <https://drive.google.com/file/d/12hoAC8xriU_ISmQ3yvW_BRwxXa-ITDsv/view?usp=drivesdk>

    Fail2.jpg
    <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lg0duq6aSL6RsOAqq3TSiG2cacaJfpmf/view?usp=drivesdk>

    sorry, can't get into this further but before going to
    extreme measures perhaps it is just a loose connection or
    cable?

    with the computer completely unplugged and you grounded
    to prevent static shocks (this time of the year the air
    can be dry and static charges can build up) you can open
    the computer and inspect the connections and carefully
    remove dust if it has built up.

    then put it back together and see if it will reboot
    when you turn it back on.

    worth a try...

    but also for the record Refind is a different booting
    setup from grub (i happen to have both setup here on my
    machine). Refind works and i do like it as an alternative
    and backup to grub (which does at times get upgraded and
    messes some things (now usually just the boot order) up
    but i'm running Debian testing so that is all ok with me).
    luckily when efi does get changed by a grub update the
    command efibootmgr can be used to put things right again.

    good luck, and hope if you can't get it working again
    that you have good backups or that your storage device
    can be recovered.


    songbird

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  • From Ceppo@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 11, 2026 17:50:01
    On Sun, Jan 11, 2026 at 07:34:56AM +0700, MartinGary Padgett wrote:
    Consequently I have abandoned attempts to resolve alone this computer failure. I am now seeking assistance from the Debian-user group to
    help me. I will be grateful for any assistance from those in the group
    can help me.
    This is definitely *not* my field, but I'll try my best!
    Instead I saw on the monitor a long list of 'failure messages'
    partially shown in the attachments to this message.
    There I found a series of obtuse, at least to me, lines which may be relevant. If so, this neophyte is incapable of interpreting them.
    At the end of the list is the statement "you are in emergency mode"
    and a series of instructions ostensibly to eliminate the failures.
    It's always better to attach the full log if possible, because it's
    easier to help you if we can see the whole situation.
    Also, I recommend using https://paste.debian.net instead of Google Drive (which I suspect Gmail used without telling you in your first message).
    Many users on Debian lists - including me - are not eager to cope with Google(-like) services, and you are more likely to receive useful
    answers if you follow local customs.
    Unfortunately I could use them because the computer was not responding
    to any attempt in any way to access it.
    What do you mean by "not responding"? Did key presses produce any
    output? If so, what, and if not, did you try an external keyboard?
    Instead I will try what I expect will be a quicker way to restore the computer: to reinstall the OS.

    For this purpose I used a CD-R disk Netinstall, "amd 64,12.7.0
    Bookworm"

    [...]

    I did however ascertain that what I needed is some way to install grub
    etc. independent of what is already in the computer.
    Since you already tried to reinstall, and thus your data is gone
    already, it would probably be better to just try again to reinstall
    everything from scratch. I recommend you try to install Debian 13.3.0,
    which is the latest version, in case someone fixed an obscure bugs
    affecting you. Just ask a friend to prepare for an installation drive
    for you.
    Finally, please let us know if you subscribed to the list, or we should
    CC you.
    Cheers,

    --
    Ceppo
    https://wiki.debian.org/Ceppo
    Please, encrypt our messages with the key at the link above and send me yours.


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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)