• So, let's talk about those 2025 Steam Awards

    From Spalls Hurgenson@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 05, 2026 11:18:02

    In case you missed it, the 2025 Steam Awards were announced the other
    day. Here are the results:

    Game of the Year: Hollow Knight Silksong
    Outstanding Visual Style: Silent Hill f
    Best Soundtrack: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
    Most Innovative Gameplay: ARC Raiders
    Better With Friends: PEAK
    Labor of Love: Baldur's Gate 3
    Best Game You Suck At: Hollow Knight: Silksong
    Outstanding Game Story: Dispatch
    Sit Back and Relax RV There Yet?
    VR Game of the Year: The Midnight Walk
    Best Steam Deck Game: Hades 2

    Now, we can make all the usual comments about the pointlessness of the
    awards, or the bias, that it doesn't reflect the habits of the 'real
    gamer', or how they obviously hate <GAME X> because it definitely
    should have won game of the year... you know, the usual bitching about
    these awards. But instead, I want you to look at that list and notice something.

    Do you see it?

    There's not one triple-A game on that list. Not one game from EA, or
    Ubisoft, or MicroActiSoftVision or any of the rest of the 'big name' publishers.

    There are some triple-A quality games, certainly ("Clair Obscura", for instance) and some games that come from sizeable developers ("Silent
    Hill f" and "Baldur's Gate 3")... but the big guys make a very
    conspicuous absence.

    Now, you can make excuses for this, with varying legitimacy. For
    instance, this list only includes games sold on Steam, so exclusives
    to other platforms (or even games that may be sold on Steam, but most
    people buy and play them on other platforms) will get short shrift. If
    most people playing "Call of Duty XCCLVI: More Call, More Duty" on
    XBox, then fewer fans will visit Steam to vote for it.

    And of course Valve has an agenda to push with their selections (the
    awards are based on which games people voted for most... but Valve
    suggests the contestants). Hence the category for VR and 'best on
    SteamDeck', for instance.

    Still, for /no/ triple-A game to make it to the top of the list is
    telling. It's not that those publishers don't still make quality or
    popular games... but their once undeniable hold on the industry is
    definitely being whittled away. People no longer look to the Big Names
    as their first source for games-that-must-be-played. Sure, Assassins
    Creed is fun... but you can get just as much enjoyment from games from
    tinier developers... and often you pay less for the privilege and
    suffer less annoyances.

    If I were a C-level exec at these businesses, I'd be getting worried.
    Because while many of us here have bemoaned the lack of comparative
    quality coming from triple-As for a while now, the Steam 2025 Awards
    shows that it's becoming apparent to hoi polloi too!







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  • From rms@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 05, 2026 16:37:58
    There's not one triple-A game on that list.

    that they tend to be sequels that play it safe with padding or utransactions doesn't help

    rms


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  • From Justisaur@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 06, 2026 08:52:46
    On 1/5/2026 8:18 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    In case you missed it, the 2025 Steam Awards were announced the other
    day. Here are the results:

    Game of the Year: Hollow Knight Silksong
    Outstanding Visual Style: Silent Hill f
    Best Soundtrack: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
    Most Innovative Gameplay: ARC Raiders
    Better With Friends: PEAK
    Labor of Love: Baldur's Gate 3
    Best Game You Suck At: Hollow Knight: Silksong
    Outstanding Game Story: Dispatch
    Sit Back and Relax RV There Yet?
    VR Game of the Year: The Midnight Walk
    Best Steam Deck Game: Hades 2
    I hope it's not more an indication that Steam/PC Gaming isn't relevant.
    Or maybe I'm just an old curmudgeon.

    Most of these games seem questionable to me. GotY is a super hard side scrolling fighting platformer.

    Arc Raiders devs use AI at least in creation of their DLC packs.

    Dispatch and COE33 look interesting at least, not enough I've bought
    them yet though.

    BG3 really deserves their award, I've never seen a dev support their
    game and community that much. Even Cyberpunk '77 while continuing to
    work on it for years and turning it into a great game doesn't do half of
    what the BG3 devs have done to enable modding, online play, and much
    much more in a much shorter period of time.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 06, 2026 14:26:46
    On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 08:52:46 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/5/2026 8:18 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    In case you missed it, the 2025 Steam Awards were announced the other
    day. Here are the results:

    Game of the Year: Hollow Knight Silksong
    Outstanding Visual Style: Silent Hill f
    Best Soundtrack: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
    Most Innovative Gameplay: ARC Raiders
    Better With Friends: PEAK
    Labor of Love: Baldur's Gate 3
    Best Game You Suck At: Hollow Knight: Silksong
    Outstanding Game Story: Dispatch
    Sit Back and Relax RV There Yet?
    VR Game of the Year: The Midnight Walk
    Best Steam Deck Game: Hades 2
    I hope it's not more an indication that Steam/PC Gaming isn't relevant.


    That seems unlikely. It's monthly user count (2025) is 132 million
    active users, with an average 69 million people logging in daily. This
    compares well to the Playstation userbase (PS4/PS5/PS+) with its 124
    million monthly users, and (I've read, but seen no numbers for) XBox
    users. Epic reportedly has around 65 million monthly active users
    (mostly Fortnite), although supposedly these numbers have peaked and
    are starting to slide. The only real competitor in monthly users is
    Roblox (110 MUA).

    Steam remains the pre-eminent PC gaming platform, and remains
    extremely competitive with consoles too.

    Whether it will maintain that position is debatable (it really depends
    if it can convert Roblox gamers to its service as they 'age out' of
    the Roblox market, and how much of a bite subscription services and
    mobile will take) but for the moment, Steam is extremely relevant. If
    you want to sell games on PC, your best path to success is to put your
    game up on the Steam marketplace.


    Most of these games seem questionable to me.


    Well, that gets into the sort of "these awards suck!" debate. Which I
    won't really involve myself into, because I'm not sure I can disagree.
    _All_ such awards suck. But it's besides the point, because even in
    past years we saw the triple-As make /some/ appearance.

    Note that the triple-A games /were/ in the running. EA Sports F1 2025, Battlefield 6, Split Fiction, Helldivers 2, Doom: Dark Ages, Final
    Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Spider-Man 2, and Last of Us 2 (from EA, Bethesda,
    Sony and others) all made an appearance on the list. They all lost out
    to small- to medium-sized publishers.

    As with any awards, you can argue that these don't reflect the likes
    and dislikes of 'real' gamers. You'd probably be right about that too.
    But neither are they completely disassociated from what that group
    prefers either. Maybe the majority still prefer triple-A games... but
    if so, that majority is getting narrower. That's what these awards
    show.




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  • From Justisaur@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 07, 2026 08:23:02
    On 1/6/2026 11:26 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 08:52:46 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/5/2026 8:18 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    In case you missed it, the 2025 Steam Awards were announced the other
    day. Here are the results:

    Game of the Year: Hollow Knight Silksong
    Outstanding Visual Style: Silent Hill f
    Best Soundtrack: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
    Most Innovative Gameplay: ARC Raiders
    Better With Friends: PEAK
    Labor of Love: Baldur's Gate 3
    Best Game You Suck At: Hollow Knight: Silksong
    Outstanding Game Story: Dispatch
    Sit Back and Relax RV There Yet?
    VR Game of the Year: The Midnight Walk
    Best Steam Deck Game: Hades 2
    I hope it's not more an indication that Steam/PC Gaming isn't relevant.


    That seems unlikely. It's monthly user count (2025) is 132 million
    active users, with an average 69 million people logging in daily. This compares well to the Playstation userbase (PS4/PS5/PS+) with its 124
    million monthly users, and (I've read, but seen no numbers for) XBox
    users. Epic reportedly has around 65 million monthly active users
    (mostly Fortnite), although supposedly these numbers have peaked and
    are starting to slide. The only real competitor in monthly users is
    Roblox (110 MUA).

    Steam remains the pre-eminent PC gaming platform, and remains
    extremely competitive with consoles too.

    Whether it will maintain that position is debatable (it really depends
    if it can convert Roblox gamers to its service as they 'age out' of
    the Roblox market, and how much of a bite subscription services and
    mobile will take) but for the moment, Steam is extremely relevant. If
    you want to sell games on PC, your best path to success is to put your
    game up on the Steam marketplace.


    Most of these games seem questionable to me.


    Well, that gets into the sort of "these awards suck!" debate. Which I
    won't really involve myself into, because I'm not sure I can disagree.
    _All_ such awards suck. But it's besides the point, because even in
    past years we saw the triple-As make /some/ appearance.

    Note that the triple-A games /were/ in the running. EA Sports F1 2025, Battlefield 6, Split Fiction, Helldivers 2, Doom: Dark Ages, Final
    Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Spider-Man 2, and Last of Us 2 (from EA, Bethesda,
    Sony and others) all made an appearance on the list. They all lost out
    to small- to medium-sized publishers.

    As with any awards, you can argue that these don't reflect the likes
    and dislikes of 'real' gamers. You'd probably be right about that too.
    But neither are they completely disassociated from what that group
    prefers either. Maybe the majority still prefer triple-A games... but
    if so, that majority is getting narrower. That's what these awards
    show.


    I still can't believe the majority preferred a super hard fighting
    platformer. All I can imagine is they're extremely vocal or had a
    community campaign to vote for it.

    Dispatch and Peak both have similar numbers of reviews but much higher
    numbers of positive reviews. 96-97% vs. 91%. I could understand if the casual gamers won it, but probably being casual they probably can't be bothered to vote as much. So I guess it makes sense that Hollow Knight
    2 got the top at the intersection of vocal and good.

    Another interesting metric to look at is the sales this year, though
    most of the games on the top weren't released this year and have lower %
    of positive reviews.

    https://store.steampowered.com/charts/bestofyear/2025?tab=2

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  • From candycanearter07@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 08, 2026 01:00:08
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote at 16:52 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On 1/5/2026 8:18 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    In case you missed it, the 2025 Steam Awards were announced the other
    day. Here are the results:

    Game of the Year: Hollow Knight Silksong
    Outstanding Visual Style: Silent Hill f
    Best Soundtrack: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
    Most Innovative Gameplay: ARC Raiders
    Better With Friends: PEAK
    Labor of Love: Baldur's Gate 3
    Best Game You Suck At: Hollow Knight: Silksong
    Outstanding Game Story: Dispatch
    Sit Back and Relax RV There Yet?
    VR Game of the Year: The Midnight Walk
    Best Steam Deck Game: Hades 2
    I hope it's not more an indication that Steam/PC Gaming isn't relevant.
    Or maybe I'm just an old curmudgeon.

    Most of these games seem questionable to me. GotY is a super hard side scrolling fighting platformer.

    Silksong literally took down the Steam servers and was from what I heard extremely extremely quality

    Arc Raiders devs use AI at least in creation of their DLC packs.

    great...

    Dispatch and COE33 look interesting at least, not enough I've bought
    them yet though.

    Watching a lets play of Dispatch, I legitimately think Telltale finally
    made a good game with actual gameplay, it was REALLY good.

    BG3 really deserves their award, I've never seen a dev support their
    game and community that much. Even Cyberpunk '77 while continuing to
    work on it for years and turning it into a great game doesn't do half of what the BG3 devs have done to enable modding, online play, and much
    much more in a much shorter period of time.


    It's always nice seeing game devs supporting modding.
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