• The Free Games of 2025

    From Spalls Hurgenson@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, December 31, 2025 11:14:39

    I don't know if anybody else cares about these end-of-year round-ups,
    but it's become something of a tradition (as in, I've done it for the
    last two years), so I'm going to keep doing it. And by "it", I mean
    I'm going to do a round-up of all the games you could have claimed
    this year without paying a single dime. More specifically, these are
    free games that were announced here on CSIPGA; there may have been
    other offers available, but I'm only counting the ones that got
    mentioned here simply because those are the only ones I knew about.
    Not that wasn't enough of a selection!

    So, let's look at the totals first. For games that were completely
    free, there was a total of 210 games you could have claimed. This
    included 95 games from Epic, 91 games from Steam, 17 games from GOG,
    and another 7 from a variety of sources (I'll list all the titles by
    platform below... if only to give my line-count a massive boost!).
    That's a huge number of games to add to your collection. There were surprisingly few duplicates, too (at least amongst the games released
    this year. There were a number of games offered in 2025 that had
    already been given away for free in previous years). Epic games were
    the best of the lot; their selection included a good number of
    "triple-A" (or double-A) games, although this was mixed in with a good
    number of Indie titles of mixed quality (and a few F2P stinkers).
    Almost all of these were several years old, however. Steam games were
    almost entirely Indie titles; most were crap but a few were worth
    getting, and the vast bulk of these games were fairly new. The
    developers were obviously using the freebie to jumpstart their
    player-counts. GOG's games were very mixed; about half of them came
    from an (embarrassingly bad) collection of adult games, with the
    others being single-day give-aways by the game's publishers for some anniversary or another.


    But there were more than just free games on offer. There were also a
    lot of games available from Amazon Prime and HumbleChoice. These games
    weren't free, but the prices per game were so ridiculously low that
    they were /close/ to free. Amazon Prime Gaming posted 179 games; at a
    cost of $139USD for a yearly Prime membership, that comes to $0.77USD
    per game! Pretty good! HumbleChoice doesn't fare as well; the price
    for a 2025 membership was $162 and you only got 88 games for that
    price. $1.84USD per game isn't bad, but it pales compared to Amazon's offering... and paying Amazon also gets you movies and free shipping.
    The selection of games, overall, were better on Amazon too... and I
    really liked that about half of those games were redeemed on GOG,
    which meant I could play those games forever (or as long as I kept the executables on disk).

    [I /hate/ that I'm praising Amazon. They're such a scummy
    company. But I can't deny that they were the better deal
    this year than HumbleChoice]

    If you add it all up --free games and 'cheap' games-- that comes to
    477 games in total... and if you paid for both subscriptions, the
    total cost would be $301USD... or an average cost of $1.58USD per
    game, at a rate of 9 games added to your library per week. Or, in
    other words, for the price of about four new 'triple-A' titles, you
    could get 100x as many games. However you slice it, that's a pretty
    good deal.

    Of course, a lot of the games were of the sort you'd never play. Even
    if they were good, the sheer variety meant that, inevitably, you'd run
    across games that just don't interest you. Heck, even /I/ didn't add
    the full 477 games to my library this year (although, I admit, I
    missed out on more games because I already owned them than because I
    refused to click the 'add to library' button ;-). But even if you were
    a discerning gamer, you probably added at least a dozen new titles to
    your personal Number... just because free games have become so
    prevalent.


    So how many games did you add to your library this year? Were these
    enough to keep you busy, or did you buy other games too? And, as
    important... how many did you actually play?!






    ----------------------
    Note: What follows is a pointlessly long list of all free and 'nearly
    free' games mentioned in CSIPGA in 2025 that I know nobody will read
    but I feel an urge to include regardless. There's no need to keep
    reading past this point unless you /really/ want to see a bunch of
    game titles. There's no real content below. Honest.


    //// EPIC GAMES \\\\ (cost: $0USD)
    112 Operator * Albion Online F2P * Amnesia: The Bunker * Arcadegeddon
    * Backpack Hero * Battle of Polytopia * Behind the Frame: The Finest
    Scenery * Bendy and the Ink Machine * Beyond Blue * Blood West *
    Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night * Bloons TD 6 (mobile) * Botanicula
    * Callisto Protocol * Cassette Beasts * Cat Quest * Cat Quest II *
    Chivalry II * Chuchel * Civilization VI Platinum * Dead Island 2 *
    Deadtime Defenders * Deathloop * Deliver at All Costs * Disco Elysium:
    The Final Cut * Eastern Exorcist * Endless: Apogee (mobile) *
    Eternights * F1 Manager 2024 * Fear the Spotlight * Felix the Reaper *
    Figment * Figment 2: Creed Valley * Firestone Online Idle RPG * Five
    Nights at Freddy s: Into the Pit * Garden Story * Ghostrunner 2 *
    Gigapocalypse * Godzilla: Voxel Wars * Gravity Circuit * Happy Game *
    Hell Let Loose * Hidden Folks * Hogwarts Legacy * Humankind * Idle
    Champions of the Forgotten Realms * Jorel's Brother and the Most
    Important Game of the Galaxy * Jotunnslayer: Hordes of Hel * Jurassic
    World Evolution 2 * Kameru * Keylocker * Kingdom Come Deliverance *
    Limbo * Machinarium * Mages of Mystralia * Make Way * Monument Valley
    * Monument Valley 2 * Mortal Shell * Neko Ghost Jump * Nightingale *
    Ogu and the Secret Forest * Paradise Killer * Pilgrims * Project
    Winter * River City Girls * Road Redemption * Samorost 2 * Samorost 3
    * Scourgebringer * Sifu * SKALD: Against the Dark Priory * Sky Racket
    * Songs of Silence * Sorry, We're Closed * Strange Horticulture *
    Super Space Club * The Darkside Detective * The Jackbox Party Pack 4 *
    The Operator * The Sims 4 * Them's Fighting Herds * Tiny Tina's
    Wonderlands * Totally Reliable Delivery Service * Touch Type Tale *
    Trine Classic Collection (Trine #1-4) * Turmoil * Two Point Hospital *
    Undying (2021) * Universe For Sale * Viewfinder * We Were Here
    Together * World War Z Aftermath * Zero Hour * Zoeti




    //// STEAM GAMES \\\\ (cost: $0USD)
    112 Operator * 911 Operator * A Story About Farting * Aaero (via
    Fanatical) * Amerzone: The Explorer's Legacy 1999 * Asterix & Obelix
    XXL: Romastered (via Fanatical) * AtmaSphere * Atuel: Explore Your
    Dreams * Away * Banana Hell: Mountain of Madness * Barro GT *
    Battlestar Galactica: Deadlock * Bioprototype * Black Desert * Black
    Desert * Borderlands 2 * Bricks Over Blocks * Broilers * Bulb Boy *
    Caribbean Crashers * Caveman World: Mountains of Unga Boonga *
    Children of Clay * Cybarian: The Time Travelling Warrior * Darkenstein
    3D * Dead in Bermuda * Down the Rabbit Hole: Flattened * Dracomanton *
    Dreams of Aether * Fantasy General II * Field of Glory II: Medieval *
    Free Solitaire * Furi: Demake * Game of Thrones: Kingsroad * Golden
    Light * Guntouchables * Havok Ballons Tech Showcase * Hellslave * Holy
    Clash Cards * Humankind: Cultures of Latin America Pack (DLC) *
    Infinity Nikki * Isle of Jura * Jaded * Just Ignore Them * Keali *
    Kitchen Wars * Lawn Mower Simulator (via Lenovo/Gameplanet) * Legion
    TD 2 * Lunacid: Tears of the Moon * Mangui * Metro 2033 Redux * Mini
    Thief * Minos: Home Alabyrinth * Mouthhole * Next Jump: Shmup Tactics
    * Nubs: Arena * One Gun Guy * One Shift * Paradox Soul * Party Club *
    Pico Park Classic Edition * Press Any Button * Prologue: Go Wayback
    (Early Access) * Puzzle Chambers * Rat Quest * Sable * Shade Silver *
    Snake Eyes Dungeon * Space Pilgrim Episode II: Epsilon Indi * Space
    Pilgrim: Episode 1 - Alpha Centauri * Steamworld Dig * Stellar Mess:
    The Princess Conundrum - Chapter 1 * Strange Antiquities * Tell Me Why
    * The Deed * The Deed Dynasty * The Flayed Man * Three Sisters *
    Towaga: Among Shadows * Toy Tinker Simulator * Ultimate Zombie Defense
    * Undercroft Warriors * Walking Survival * Warhammer: Vermintide 2 *
    Wednesdays * WereCleaner * WH40K: Boltgun - Words of Vengance * What
    the Pak?! * Whiskey Mafia: Leo's Family * Wild Terra 2: New Lands *
    Will Glow the Wisp * Zomborg




    //// GOG GAMES \\\\ (cost: $0USD)
    Agony (w/ Unrated edition) * Being a DIK (season 1) * Fetish Locator
    (week 1) * Helping the Hotties * House Party * Hunie Pop * Leap of
    Faith * Leap of Love * Lust Theory * Metro 2033 Redux * Postal 2 *
    Sapphire Safari * Stasis * Summer's Gone (season 1) * Treasures of
    Nadia * Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War * Warhammer 40,000:
    Rites of War




    //// OTHER PLATFORMS \\\\ (cost: $0USD)
    Brutal Legend (via Itch.io) * Dreaming Sarah (via IndieGala) * Fly
    around your home with Alex and the Jets (MetaQuest) * Immortals: Fenyx
    Rising (Ubisoft) * Starship Unlimited (via Apezone) * Toree 3D (via
    Itch.io) * Vile: Exhumed (via DreadXP.com)




    //// AMAZON PRIME GAMING \\\\ (cost: $139USD)
    After Image (via Amazon) * AK-xolotl: Together (via EPIC) * Amnesia:
    Rebirth (via EPIC) * Amnesia: The Dark Descent (via EPIC) * Another
    World 20th Anniversary Ed (via GOG) * Are you Smarter Than a 5th
    Grader (via EPIC) * Ashworld (via GOG) * Beserk Boy (via GOG) *
    Besiege (w/DLC) (via Amazon) * Big Adventure Trip to Europe CE (via
    Legacy) * Bioshock 2 Remastered (via GOG) * Bioshock Infinite Complete
    Ed (via GOG) * Blood Omen 2: Legacy of Kain (via GOG) * Blood Omen:
    Legacy of Kain (via GOG) * Blood West (via GOG) * Bo: Path of the Teal
    Lotus (via GOG) * Boxes: Lost Fragments (via EPIC) * Chessarama (via
    Epic) * Christmas Adventure: Candy Storm (via Legacy) * City Legends:
    The Ghost of Misty Hill CE (via Legacy) * Civilization IV Complete
    Edition (via GOG) * Colt Canyon (via GOG) * Crime Boss: Rockay City
    (via Epic) * D&D Dark Sun series (via GOG) * Dark City: Kyiv CE (via
    Amazon) * Dark Deity - Complete Edition (via GOG) * Dark Envoy (via
    GOG) * Dark Sky (via GOG) * Death Squared (via GOG) * Deus Ex GOTY
    (via GOG) * Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut (via GOG) * Deus
    Ex: Invisible War (via GOG) * Doors: Paradox (via EPIC) * DragonStrike
    (via GOG) * Dread Out 2 (via Amazon) * Dream Tactics (via GOG) *
    Dungeon & Dragons: Ravenloft Series (via GOG) * Dungeon of the Endless Definitive Edition (via Amazon) * Dungeons & Dragons: Krynn Series
    (via GOG) * Eastern Exorcist (via Epic) * El Hijo: A Wild West Tale
    (via Epic) * Empty Shell (via GOG) * Ender Lilies: Quietus of the
    Knights (via EPIC) * Endless Legend: Definitive Edition (via Amazon)
    * Endless Space 2 Definitive Edition (via Amazon) * Endless Space
    Definitive Edition (via Amazon) * Fallout 3 GOTY (via GOG) * Fallout
    76 (via BethesdaNet) * Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate (via GOG) * Fantasy
    Empires (via GOG) * Fashion Police Squad (via EPIC) * FATE (via GOG) *
    FATE: The Cursed King (via GOG) * FATE: The Traitor Soul (via GOG) *
    FATE: Undiscovered Realms (via GOG) * Figment 2: Creed Valley (via
    AMAZ) * Filthy Animals: Heist Simulators (via EPIC) * Football Manager
    2024 (via EPIC) * Forgotten Realms: The Archives Collection 1 (via
    GOG) * Forgotten Realms: The Archives Collection 2 (via GOG) *
    Forgotten Realms: The Archives Collection 3 (via GOG) * Fort Solis
    (via GOG) * Gallery of Things: Reverie (via Legacy) * GameDec -
    Definitive Edition (via GOG) * Gas Station Simulator (via Epic) *
    Gloomhaven (via EPIC) * God's Trigger (via GOG) * Golf With Your
    Friends (via GOG) * GRIP: Combat Racing (via GOG) * GunSlugs (via GOG)
    * Gunslugs 2 (via GOG) * Gylt (via Amazon) * Halloween Stories Horror
    Movie CE (via AMAZ) * Hardspace: Shipbreaker (via EPIC) * Hellslave
    (via GOG) * Heroes of Loot (via GOG) * Heroes of Loot 2 (via GOG) *
    Hypnospace Outlaw (via GOG) * I Love Finding Wild Friends (via Legacy)
    * Into the Breach (via EPIC) * Jennifer Wilde: Unlikely
    Revolutionaries (via EPIC) * Jupiter Hell (via GOG) * Labyrinth City:
    Pierre the Maze Detective (via Amazon) * Legacy of Kain: Defiance (via
    GOG) * Lego 2K Drive (via Epic) * Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga
    (via GOG) * Let's Build A Zoo (via Epic) * Liberte (via Epic) * Lost &
    Found Agency CE (via Legacy) * Lost and Found Agency CE (via Luna) *
    Lost Ashford Ring (via Legacy) * Love Finding Wild Friends CE (via
    Legacy) * Lovecraft's Untold Stories (via GOG) * Lysfanga: The Time
    Shift Warrior (via EPIC) * Mafia II: Definitive Edition (via GOG) *
    Mafia III: Definitive Edition (via GOG) * Mail Time (via GOG) *
    Marvel's Midnight Suns (via EPIC) * Minecraft Legends (via Microsoft's
    XBox thing) * Mordheim: City of the Damned (via GOG) * Mortal Shell
    (via Epic) * Mutazione (via GOG) * Mystical Riddles: Ghostly Park CE
    (Legacy) * Naheulbeuk's Dungeon Master (via Amazon) * Necroking (via
    GOG) * New Tales from the Borderlands (via EPIC) * New York Mysteries
    (via Legacy) * New York Mysteries Power of Art (via Legacy) * Night
    Reverie (via Amazon) * Paleo Pines (via Amazon) * Paquerette Down the Bunborrows (via EPIC) * Pixel Cafe (via AMAZ) * PlateUp! (via EPIC) *
    Priest Simulator: Vampire Show (via Epic) * Projection: First Light
    (via Amazon) * Redemption Reapers (via Epic) * Republic of Jungle (via
    Epic) * Residual (via GOG) * Royal Romances: Cursed Heart CE (via
    Legacy) * Saints Row 2 (via GOG) * Saints Row IV: Re-Elected (via GOG)
    * Saints Row The Third: Remastered (via GOG) * Saints Row: Gat Out of
    Hell (via GOG) * Sands of Aura (via EPIC) * Session: Skate Sim (via
    Epic) * Sid Meier's Civilization 3 Complete (via GOG) * Silver Box
    Classics (via GOG) * Skydrift Infinity (via EPIC) * Spelljammer:
    Pirates of Realmspace (via GOG) * Spirit Mancer (via Amazon) *
    Spitlings (via AMAZ) * Star Stuff (via EPIC) * Star Wars Dark Forces
    II Jedi Knight (via GOG) * Star Wars Rebellion (via GOG) * Star Wars:
    Galactic Battlegrounds Saga (via GOG) * Station to Station (via
    Amazon) * Steamworld Quest: Hand of Gilgamech (via GOG) * Stray Gods:
    Orpheus Edition (via GOG) * Stunt Kite Party (via Amazon) * Styx:
    Master of Shadows (via GOG) * Subterrain: Mines of Titan (via Amazon)
    * Super Meat Boy Forever (via EPIC) * Surf World Series (via Amazon)
    * Syberia: The World Before (via GOG) * Talos Principle: Gold Ed. (via
    GOG) * The Abandoned Planet (via Amazon) * The Bridge (via Epic) * The Forgotten City (via AMAZ) * The Invisible Hand (via Amazon) * The Last
    Show of Mr. Chardish (via EPIC) * The Last Spell (via GOG) * The Lost
    Ashford Ring (via Legacy) * The Smurfs 2: Prisoner of the Green Stone
    (via GOG) * The Town of Light (via GOG) * The Wisbey Mystery (via
    Legacy) * Thief 4 Definitive Edition (via GOG) * Thief Gold (via GOG)
    * Thief II: The Metal Age (via GOG) * Thief: Deadly Shadows (via GOG)
    * Tin Hearts (via GOG) * To the Rescue! (via EPIC) * TOEM (via GOG) *
    Tomb Raider I-III Remastered (via GOG) * Tormented Souls (via AMAZ) *
    Trinity Fusion (via Amazon) * Troublemaker (via EPIC) * True Fear:
    Forsaken Souls Part 1 (via GOG) * True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2
    (via GOG) * Vampire: The Masquerade ? Reckoning of New York * Venba
    (via GOG) * Werewolf The Apocalypse Heart of the Forest (via AMAZ) *
    Wild Country (via GOG) * Wolfenstein II: The New Collossus (via MS) * Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (via MS) * Wolfenstein: Youngblood (via
    Microsoft) * XCOM 2 (via GOG) * Yes, Your Grace (via GOG) * You Will
    Die Here Tonight (via GOG) * Zombie Army 4: Dead War (via GOG)



    //// HUMBLE CHOICE \\\\ (cost: $162USD)
    1000x Resist * Against the Storm * Aliens: Dark Descent * Amnesia:
    The Bunker * Another Crab's Treasure * Atomic Heart * Banishers: Ghost
    of New Eden * Beholder: Conductor * Beneath Oresa * Biped * Blanc *
    Blasphemous 2 * Boxes: Lost Fragments * Caravan Sandwitch * Cat Quest
    II * Cavern of Dreams * Corpse Keeper * Cryptmaster * Daemon X Machina
    * Death's Door * Diplomacy Is Not An Option * Distant Worlds 2 *
    Dordogne * Dredge * Dungeon Tycoon * Dungeons of Hinterberg * Eastern
    Exorcist * Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes * Etrian Odyssey HD *
    Everafter Falls * Evil West * Fort Solis * Godlike Burger * Grapple
    Dog * Gravity Circuit * Havendock * Homeworld 3 * Hotel Renovator *
    Intravenous II * Jagged Alliance 3 * Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver 1 & 2 Remastered * Let's School! * Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased
    His Name * Lil Gator Game * Lost Skies * My Time at Sandrock * Neo Cab
    * Nine Sols * No More Heroes 3 * Nobody Wants to Die * Nomad Survival
    * Nova Lands * Pacific Drive * Paleo Pines * Persona 5 Royal *
    Pharaoh: A New Era * Plucky Squire, The * Racine * Return to Monkey
    Island * Shadow Gambit: The Cursed Crew * Shogun Showdown * Sir
    Whoopass: Immortal Death * Sker Ritual * Spellforce: Conquest of Eo *
    Spin Hero * Star Wars: Bounty Hunter * Story of Seasons: Pioneers of
    Olive Town * Streets of Rage 4 * Synergy * Tales of Kenzera: Zau (via
    EA Origin) * Tchia * The Pegasus Expedition * The Thaumaturge: Deluxe
    Edition * Tiny Terry's Turbo Trip * Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered * Total
    War: Warhammer III * Ultros * V Rising * Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun *
    Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader * Warhammer 40K: Speed Freeks * WarPips
    * Wild Hearts (via EA Origin) * Wildmender * Wizard with a Gun * WWE
    2K25






    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Justisaur@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, December 31, 2025 14:04:06
    On 12/31/2025 8:14 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    So how many games did you add to your library this year? Were these
    enough to keep you busy, or did you buy other games too? And, as
    important... how many did you actually play?!

    I'm not entirely sure, most of them though.

    I didn't take any Humble Bundle, as they almost never have anything I
    actually want, and can't see paying the price for more games I'm not interested in.

    I didn't take any of the Prime games from Xbox as I don't want to pay
    for live just to play them on xbox 360 if they even work on it, which is
    the only xbox I have. I also didn't take any Prime games on that other service I don't even remember the name of that seems to be a bunch of
    not even mobile worthy point and click game. I stopped taking Luna
    games as the lag from cloud streaming is too annoying. I took
    everything else for Prime from GOG and EPIC if I didn't have it already.

    Epic I've been deliberately trying not to collect a bunch of trash, but
    my willpower isn't great in that regard, and took most of the free
    games. I greatly enjoyed Control, and consider that the big win this
    year (or was it last and it took me a year to get around to it? Or was
    it from Prime on Epic. I don't really care.)

    I waffled on GoG if I wanted the adult games or not and they were gone
    before I could make a decision so missed out, maybe a good thing
    *shrug*. Everything else free was taken from them. I like to support
    them. Does it actually support them if I take free games? I've no idea.

    Steam... Steam has 14,829 free games on it this moment. I'm very picky
    when someone posts free games from Steam because of being anti-clutter.
    I've taken a handful or two, I may even have played a couple, and
    enjoyed at least one.

    And I got at least Arx Fatalis from you Spalls. Since I got it from you
    I'll give it a try as soon as I can hype myself up to.

    I also played a bunch of games on PS+, enough that I liked enough to
    quite well justify the cost, and saved me a fortune in other games that
    I didn't like enough, but I'm probably not going to do that again unless
    I see something that's expensive enough justify it that I want to give a
    try before I buy. Those were all effectively "free" in the same way
    Prime ones were, even if only temporarily so while paying for PS+.
    Expedition 33 maybe if it comes to it, on the other hand it's on sale
    low enough that it's only a handful of dollars more than PS+ right now,
    but at least I could try other games if I don't like it for the month.
    I'd rather do it on Game Pass so I'm not taking up the PS5 though.

    --
    -Justisaur

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  • From Ant@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 01, 2026 07:08:42
    Too many!!!!!!


    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    I don't know if anybody else cares about these end-of-year round-ups,
    but it's become something of a tradition (as in, I've done it for the
    last two years), so I'm going to keep doing it. And by "it", I mean
    I'm going to do a round-up of all the games you could have claimed
    this year without paying a single dime. More specifically, these are
    free games that were announced here on CSIPGA; there may have been
    other offers available, but I'm only counting the ones that got
    mentioned here simply because those are the only ones I knew about.
    Not that wasn't enough of a selection!

    So, let's look at the totals first. For games that were completely
    free, there was a total of 210 games you could have claimed. This
    included 95 games from Epic, 91 games from Steam, 17 games from GOG,
    and another 7 from a variety of sources (I'll list all the titles by
    platform below... if only to give my line-count a massive boost!).
    That's a huge number of games to add to your collection. There were surprisingly few duplicates, too (at least amongst the games released
    this year. There were a number of games offered in 2025 that had
    already been given away for free in previous years). Epic games were
    the best of the lot; their selection included a good number of
    "triple-A" (or double-A) games, although this was mixed in with a good
    number of Indie titles of mixed quality (and a few F2P stinkers).
    Almost all of these were several years old, however. Steam games were
    almost entirely Indie titles; most were crap but a few were worth
    getting, and the vast bulk of these games were fairly new. The
    developers were obviously using the freebie to jumpstart their
    player-counts. GOG's games were very mixed; about half of them came
    from an (embarrassingly bad) collection of adult games, with the
    others being single-day give-aways by the game's publishers for some anniversary or another.


    But there were more than just free games on offer. There were also a
    lot of games available from Amazon Prime and HumbleChoice. These games weren't free, but the prices per game were so ridiculously low that
    they were /close/ to free. Amazon Prime Gaming posted 179 games; at a
    cost of $139USD for a yearly Prime membership, that comes to $0.77USD
    per game! Pretty good! HumbleChoice doesn't fare as well; the price
    for a 2025 membership was $162 and you only got 88 games for that
    price. $1.84USD per game isn't bad, but it pales compared to Amazon's offering... and paying Amazon also gets you movies and free shipping.
    The selection of games, overall, were better on Amazon too... and I
    really liked that about half of those games were redeemed on GOG,
    which meant I could play those games forever (or as long as I kept the executables on disk).

    [I /hate/ that I'm praising Amazon. They're such a scummy
    company. But I can't deny that they were the better deal
    this year than HumbleChoice]

    If you add it all up --free games and 'cheap' games-- that comes to
    477 games in total... and if you paid for both subscriptions, the
    total cost would be $301USD... or an average cost of $1.58USD per
    game, at a rate of 9 games added to your library per week. Or, in
    other words, for the price of about four new 'triple-A' titles, you
    could get 100x as many games. However you slice it, that's a pretty
    good deal.

    Of course, a lot of the games were of the sort you'd never play. Even
    if they were good, the sheer variety meant that, inevitably, you'd run
    across games that just don't interest you. Heck, even /I/ didn't add
    the full 477 games to my library this year (although, I admit, I
    missed out on more games because I already owned them than because I
    refused to click the 'add to library' button ;-). But even if you were
    a discerning gamer, you probably added at least a dozen new titles to
    your personal Number... just because free games have become so
    prevalent.


    So how many games did you add to your library this year? Were these
    enough to keep you busy, or did you buy other games too? And, as
    important... how many did you actually play?!






    ----------------------
    Note: What follows is a pointlessly long list of all free and 'nearly
    free' games mentioned in CSIPGA in 2025 that I know nobody will read
    but I feel an urge to include regardless. There's no need to keep
    reading past this point unless you /really/ want to see a bunch of
    game titles. There's no real content below. Honest.


    //// EPIC GAMES \\\\ (cost: $0USD)
    112 Operator * Albion Online F2P * Amnesia: The Bunker * Arcadegeddon
    * Backpack Hero * Battle of Polytopia * Behind the Frame: The Finest
    Scenery * Bendy and the Ink Machine * Beyond Blue * Blood West * Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night * Bloons TD 6 (mobile) * Botanicula
    * Callisto Protocol * Cassette Beasts * Cat Quest * Cat Quest II *
    Chivalry II * Chuchel * Civilization VI Platinum * Dead Island 2 *
    Deadtime Defenders * Deathloop * Deliver at All Costs * Disco Elysium:
    The Final Cut * Eastern Exorcist * Endless: Apogee (mobile) *
    Eternights * F1 Manager 2024 * Fear the Spotlight * Felix the Reaper * Figment * Figment 2: Creed Valley * Firestone Online Idle RPG * Five
    Nights at Freddy s: Into the Pit * Garden Story * Ghostrunner 2 * Gigapocalypse * Godzilla: Voxel Wars * Gravity Circuit * Happy Game *
    Hell Let Loose * Hidden Folks * Hogwarts Legacy * Humankind * Idle
    Champions of the Forgotten Realms * Jorel's Brother and the Most
    Important Game of the Galaxy * Jotunnslayer: Hordes of Hel * Jurassic
    World Evolution 2 * Kameru * Keylocker * Kingdom Come Deliverance *
    Limbo * Machinarium * Mages of Mystralia * Make Way * Monument Valley
    * Monument Valley 2 * Mortal Shell * Neko Ghost Jump * Nightingale *
    Ogu and the Secret Forest * Paradise Killer * Pilgrims * Project
    Winter * River City Girls * Road Redemption * Samorost 2 * Samorost 3
    * Scourgebringer * Sifu * SKALD: Against the Dark Priory * Sky Racket
    * Songs of Silence * Sorry, We're Closed * Strange Horticulture *
    Super Space Club * The Darkside Detective * The Jackbox Party Pack 4 *
    The Operator * The Sims 4 * Them's Fighting Herds * Tiny Tina's
    Wonderlands * Totally Reliable Delivery Service * Touch Type Tale *
    Trine Classic Collection (Trine #1-4) * Turmoil * Two Point Hospital * Undying (2021) * Universe For Sale * Viewfinder * We Were Here
    Together * World War Z Aftermath * Zero Hour * Zoeti




    //// STEAM GAMES \\\\ (cost: $0USD)
    112 Operator * 911 Operator * A Story About Farting * Aaero (via
    Fanatical) * Amerzone: The Explorer's Legacy 1999 * Asterix & Obelix
    XXL: Romastered (via Fanatical) * AtmaSphere * Atuel: Explore Your
    Dreams * Away * Banana Hell: Mountain of Madness * Barro GT *
    Battlestar Galactica: Deadlock * Bioprototype * Black Desert * Black
    Desert * Borderlands 2 * Bricks Over Blocks * Broilers * Bulb Boy *
    Caribbean Crashers * Caveman World: Mountains of Unga Boonga *
    Children of Clay * Cybarian: The Time Travelling Warrior * Darkenstein
    3D * Dead in Bermuda * Down the Rabbit Hole: Flattened * Dracomanton *
    Dreams of Aether * Fantasy General II * Field of Glory II: Medieval *
    Free Solitaire * Furi: Demake * Game of Thrones: Kingsroad * Golden
    Light * Guntouchables * Havok Ballons Tech Showcase * Hellslave * Holy
    Clash Cards * Humankind: Cultures of Latin America Pack (DLC) *
    Infinity Nikki * Isle of Jura * Jaded * Just Ignore Them * Keali *
    Kitchen Wars * Lawn Mower Simulator (via Lenovo/Gameplanet) * Legion
    TD 2 * Lunacid: Tears of the Moon * Mangui * Metro 2033 Redux * Mini
    Thief * Minos: Home Alabyrinth * Mouthhole * Next Jump: Shmup Tactics
    * Nubs: Arena * One Gun Guy * One Shift * Paradox Soul * Party Club *
    Pico Park Classic Edition * Press Any Button * Prologue: Go Wayback
    (Early Access) * Puzzle Chambers * Rat Quest * Sable * Shade Silver *
    Snake Eyes Dungeon * Space Pilgrim Episode II: Epsilon Indi * Space
    Pilgrim: Episode 1 - Alpha Centauri * Steamworld Dig * Stellar Mess:
    The Princess Conundrum - Chapter 1 * Strange Antiquities * Tell Me Why
    * The Deed * The Deed Dynasty * The Flayed Man * Three Sisters *
    Towaga: Among Shadows * Toy Tinker Simulator * Ultimate Zombie Defense
    * Undercroft Warriors * Walking Survival * Warhammer: Vermintide 2 * Wednesdays * WereCleaner * WH40K: Boltgun - Words of Vengance * What
    the Pak?! * Whiskey Mafia: Leo's Family * Wild Terra 2: New Lands *
    Will Glow the Wisp * Zomborg




    //// GOG GAMES \\\\ (cost: $0USD)
    Agony (w/ Unrated edition) * Being a DIK (season 1) * Fetish Locator
    (week 1) * Helping the Hotties * House Party * Hunie Pop * Leap of
    Faith * Leap of Love * Lust Theory * Metro 2033 Redux * Postal 2 *
    Sapphire Safari * Stasis * Summer's Gone (season 1) * Treasures of
    Nadia * Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War * Warhammer 40,000:
    Rites of War




    //// OTHER PLATFORMS \\\\ (cost: $0USD)
    Brutal Legend (via Itch.io) * Dreaming Sarah (via IndieGala) * Fly
    around your home with Alex and the Jets (MetaQuest) * Immortals: Fenyx
    Rising (Ubisoft) * Starship Unlimited (via Apezone) * Toree 3D (via
    Itch.io) * Vile: Exhumed (via DreadXP.com)




    //// AMAZON PRIME GAMING \\\\ (cost: $139USD)
    After Image (via Amazon) * AK-xolotl: Together (via EPIC) * Amnesia:
    Rebirth (via EPIC) * Amnesia: The Dark Descent (via EPIC) * Another
    World 20th Anniversary Ed (via GOG) * Are you Smarter Than a 5th
    Grader (via EPIC) * Ashworld (via GOG) * Beserk Boy (via GOG) *
    Besiege (w/DLC) (via Amazon) * Big Adventure Trip to Europe CE (via
    Legacy) * Bioshock 2 Remastered (via GOG) * Bioshock Infinite Complete
    Ed (via GOG) * Blood Omen 2: Legacy of Kain (via GOG) * Blood Omen:
    Legacy of Kain (via GOG) * Blood West (via GOG) * Bo: Path of the Teal
    Lotus (via GOG) * Boxes: Lost Fragments (via EPIC) * Chessarama (via
    Epic) * Christmas Adventure: Candy Storm (via Legacy) * City Legends:
    The Ghost of Misty Hill CE (via Legacy) * Civilization IV Complete
    Edition (via GOG) * Colt Canyon (via GOG) * Crime Boss: Rockay City
    (via Epic) * D&D Dark Sun series (via GOG) * Dark City: Kyiv CE (via
    Amazon) * Dark Deity - Complete Edition (via GOG) * Dark Envoy (via
    GOG) * Dark Sky (via GOG) * Death Squared (via GOG) * Deus Ex GOTY
    (via GOG) * Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut (via GOG) * Deus
    Ex: Invisible War (via GOG) * Doors: Paradox (via EPIC) * DragonStrike
    (via GOG) * Dread Out 2 (via Amazon) * Dream Tactics (via GOG) *
    Dungeon & Dragons: Ravenloft Series (via GOG) * Dungeon of the Endless Definitive Edition (via Amazon) * Dungeons & Dragons: Krynn Series
    (via GOG) * Eastern Exorcist (via Epic) * El Hijo: A Wild West Tale
    (via Epic) * Empty Shell (via GOG) * Ender Lilies: Quietus of the
    Knights (via EPIC) * Endless Legend: Definitive Edition (via Amazon)
    * Endless Space 2 Definitive Edition (via Amazon) * Endless Space
    Definitive Edition (via Amazon) * Fallout 3 GOTY (via GOG) * Fallout
    76 (via BethesdaNet) * Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate (via GOG) * Fantasy Empires (via GOG) * Fashion Police Squad (via EPIC) * FATE (via GOG) *
    FATE: The Cursed King (via GOG) * FATE: The Traitor Soul (via GOG) *
    FATE: Undiscovered Realms (via GOG) * Figment 2: Creed Valley (via
    AMAZ) * Filthy Animals: Heist Simulators (via EPIC) * Football Manager
    2024 (via EPIC) * Forgotten Realms: The Archives Collection 1 (via
    GOG) * Forgotten Realms: The Archives Collection 2 (via GOG) *
    Forgotten Realms: The Archives Collection 3 (via GOG) * Fort Solis
    (via GOG) * Gallery of Things: Reverie (via Legacy) * GameDec -
    Definitive Edition (via GOG) * Gas Station Simulator (via Epic) *
    Gloomhaven (via EPIC) * God's Trigger (via GOG) * Golf With Your
    Friends (via GOG) * GRIP: Combat Racing (via GOG) * GunSlugs (via GOG)
    * Gunslugs 2 (via GOG) * Gylt (via Amazon) * Halloween Stories Horror
    Movie CE (via AMAZ) * Hardspace: Shipbreaker (via EPIC) * Hellslave
    (via GOG) * Heroes of Loot (via GOG) * Heroes of Loot 2 (via GOG) * Hypnospace Outlaw (via GOG) * I Love Finding Wild Friends (via Legacy)
    * Into the Breach (via EPIC) * Jennifer Wilde: Unlikely
    Revolutionaries (via EPIC) * Jupiter Hell (via GOG) * Labyrinth City:
    Pierre the Maze Detective (via Amazon) * Legacy of Kain: Defiance (via
    GOG) * Lego 2K Drive (via Epic) * Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga
    (via GOG) * Let's Build A Zoo (via Epic) * Liberte (via Epic) * Lost &
    Found Agency CE (via Legacy) * Lost and Found Agency CE (via Luna) *
    Lost Ashford Ring (via Legacy) * Love Finding Wild Friends CE (via
    Legacy) * Lovecraft's Untold Stories (via GOG) * Lysfanga: The Time
    Shift Warrior (via EPIC) * Mafia II: Definitive Edition (via GOG) *
    Mafia III: Definitive Edition (via GOG) * Mail Time (via GOG) *
    Marvel's Midnight Suns (via EPIC) * Minecraft Legends (via Microsoft's
    XBox thing) * Mordheim: City of the Damned (via GOG) * Mortal Shell
    (via Epic) * Mutazione (via GOG) * Mystical Riddles: Ghostly Park CE
    (Legacy) * Naheulbeuk's Dungeon Master (via Amazon) * Necroking (via
    GOG) * New Tales from the Borderlands (via EPIC) * New York Mysteries
    (via Legacy) * New York Mysteries Power of Art (via Legacy) * Night
    Reverie (via Amazon) * Paleo Pines (via Amazon) * Paquerette Down the Bunborrows (via EPIC) * Pixel Cafe (via AMAZ) * PlateUp! (via EPIC) *
    Priest Simulator: Vampire Show (via Epic) * Projection: First Light
    (via Amazon) * Redemption Reapers (via Epic) * Republic of Jungle (via
    Epic) * Residual (via GOG) * Royal Romances: Cursed Heart CE (via
    Legacy) * Saints Row 2 (via GOG) * Saints Row IV: Re-Elected (via GOG)
    * Saints Row The Third: Remastered (via GOG) * Saints Row: Gat Out of
    Hell (via GOG) * Sands of Aura (via EPIC) * Session: Skate Sim (via
    Epic) * Sid Meier's Civilization 3 Complete (via GOG) * Silver Box
    Classics (via GOG) * Skydrift Infinity (via EPIC) * Spelljammer:
    Pirates of Realmspace (via GOG) * Spirit Mancer (via Amazon) *
    Spitlings (via AMAZ) * Star Stuff (via EPIC) * Star Wars Dark Forces
    II Jedi Knight (via GOG) * Star Wars Rebellion (via GOG) * Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds Saga (via GOG) * Station to Station (via
    Amazon) * Steamworld Quest: Hand of Gilgamech (via GOG) * Stray Gods:
    Orpheus Edition (via GOG) * Stunt Kite Party (via Amazon) * Styx:
    Master of Shadows (via GOG) * Subterrain: Mines of Titan (via Amazon)
    * Super Meat Boy Forever (via EPIC) * Surf World Series (via Amazon)
    * Syberia: The World Before (via GOG) * Talos Principle: Gold Ed. (via
    GOG) * The Abandoned Planet (via Amazon) * The Bridge (via Epic) * The Forgotten City (via AMAZ) * The Invisible Hand (via Amazon) * The Last
    Show of Mr. Chardish (via EPIC) * The Last Spell (via GOG) * The Lost
    Ashford Ring (via Legacy) * The Smurfs 2: Prisoner of the Green Stone
    (via GOG) * The Town of Light (via GOG) * The Wisbey Mystery (via
    Legacy) * Thief 4 Definitive Edition (via GOG) * Thief Gold (via GOG)
    * Thief II: The Metal Age (via GOG) * Thief: Deadly Shadows (via GOG)
    * Tin Hearts (via GOG) * To the Rescue! (via EPIC) * TOEM (via GOG) *
    Tomb Raider I-III Remastered (via GOG) * Tormented Souls (via AMAZ) *
    Trinity Fusion (via Amazon) * Troublemaker (via EPIC) * True Fear:
    Forsaken Souls Part 1 (via GOG) * True Fear: Forsaken Souls Part 2
    (via GOG) * Vampire: The Masquerade ? Reckoning of New York * Venba
    (via GOG) * Werewolf The Apocalypse Heart of the Forest (via AMAZ) *
    Wild Country (via GOG) * Wolfenstein II: The New Collossus (via MS) * Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (via MS) * Wolfenstein: Youngblood (via
    Microsoft) * XCOM 2 (via GOG) * Yes, Your Grace (via GOG) * You Will
    Die Here Tonight (via GOG) * Zombie Army 4: Dead War (via GOG)



    //// HUMBLE CHOICE \\\\ (cost: $162USD)
    1000x Resist * Against the Storm * Aliens: Dark Descent * Amnesia:
    The Bunker * Another Crab's Treasure * Atomic Heart * Banishers: Ghost
    of New Eden * Beholder: Conductor * Beneath Oresa * Biped * Blanc * Blasphemous 2 * Boxes: Lost Fragments * Caravan Sandwitch * Cat Quest
    II * Cavern of Dreams * Corpse Keeper * Cryptmaster * Daemon X Machina
    * Death's Door * Diplomacy Is Not An Option * Distant Worlds 2 *
    Dordogne * Dredge * Dungeon Tycoon * Dungeons of Hinterberg * Eastern Exorcist * Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes * Etrian Odyssey HD *
    Everafter Falls * Evil West * Fort Solis * Godlike Burger * Grapple
    Dog * Gravity Circuit * Havendock * Homeworld 3 * Hotel Renovator * Intravenous II * Jagged Alliance 3 * Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver 1 & 2 Remastered * Let's School! * Like a Dragon Gaiden: The Man Who Erased
    His Name * Lil Gator Game * Lost Skies * My Time at Sandrock * Neo Cab
    * Nine Sols * No More Heroes 3 * Nobody Wants to Die * Nomad Survival
    * Nova Lands * Pacific Drive * Paleo Pines * Persona 5 Royal *
    Pharaoh: A New Era * Plucky Squire, The * Racine * Return to Monkey
    Island * Shadow Gambit: The Cursed Crew * Shogun Showdown * Sir
    Whoopass: Immortal Death * Sker Ritual * Spellforce: Conquest of Eo *
    Spin Hero * Star Wars: Bounty Hunter * Story of Seasons: Pioneers of
    Olive Town * Streets of Rage 4 * Synergy * Tales of Kenzera: Zau (via
    EA Origin) * Tchia * The Pegasus Expedition * The Thaumaturge: Deluxe
    Edition * Tiny Terry's Turbo Trip * Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered * Total
    War: Warhammer III * Ultros * V Rising * Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun * Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader * Warhammer 40K: Speed Freeks * WarPips
    * Wild Hearts (via EA Origin) * Wildmender * Wizard with a Gun * WWE
    2K25






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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 01, 2026 11:50:42
    On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 14:04:06 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    On 12/31/2025 8:14 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    So how many games did you add to your library this year? Were these
    enough to keep you busy, or did you buy other games too? And, as
    important... how many did you actually play?!


    I'm not entirely sure, most of them though.
    I didn't take any Humble Bundle, as they almost never have anything I >actually want, and can't see paying the price for more games I'm not >interested in.

    No disagreement here (even though I /have/ been paying that price
    myself). I've been bemoaning the lack of quality games from Humble for
    a while now, but this compilation really put into focus how bad things
    have gotten. All the more so since you actually pay MORE for Humble
    than you do for to get half that number games you'd get from from
    Amazon. I HATE that Amazon is the better deal... but it really is.
    Humble used to be amazing, but now? I can't recommend them at all. The
    quality of games has gone down, the quantity of games is average, and
    their prices have gone up (barring any price increases, a year's games
    from Humble will cost near $200USD in 2026).

    Mind you, one of the problems Humble is facing is that they've already
    picked a lot of the 'low-hanging fruit'. Their Choices have already
    included all the classic Star Wars and D&D games, the Deus Ex and Tomb
    Raiders, the Bioshocks... all the classics that were still valued by
    gamers but inexpensively priced on the market. The more modern
    triple-A titles are still pulling premium prices ($40USD and higher),
    and those are obviously out of budget for the service. I think Amazon
    will soon be running into the same problem, where they are forced to
    give-away cheapo Indie titles because they've already given away all
    the GOOD games and are desperate for new (but cheap) titles to throw
    our way.



    Steam... Steam has 14,829 free games on it this moment. I'm very picky
    when someone posts free games from Steam because of being anti-clutter.
    I've taken a handful or two, I may even have played a couple, and
    enjoyed at least one.


    I think one of my goals with this yearly round-up was to show just how
    BIG the 'free game market' has become. You can quite easily do nothing
    but play free (or nearly free) games entirely now... and not just
    grindy free-to-play MTX crap, but actually triple-A quality titles.
    You can get a year's worth of worthwhile gameplay all without paying a
    cent. Yes, there's also a lot of crud mixed into those freebies...but
    when the list includes games like Civilization VI, Kingdom Come
    Deliverance, Warhammer: Vermintide 2, Deathloop and more, its not like
    you are lacking for 'real' games.

    And that's got to be a real problem for publishers. It's yet another
    reason why people aren't paying $80USD for new games. In fact, I'd
    wager that this 100% legitimate free game market probably is hurting
    their bottom line far more than ever did piracy. And while a part of
    me cheers at the idea of greedy corporations getting their comeuppance
    (and loving that I can get free games out of it), I also recognize
    that this sort of loss only pushes corporations to look more and more
    towards alternate forms of income: MTX, lootboxes, subscriptions,
    whatever. So I've mixed feelings about all these free offers.

    Even as I grab the games hand-over-fist ;-)


    And I got at least Arx Fatalis from you Spalls. Since I got it from you >I'll give it a try as soon as I can hype myself up to.


    Oh great, now I live in fear of that game not being as good as I hyped
    it up to be. Which... is probably the case. Don't mistake me; I think
    "Arx" is a good game, and it's certainly a better experience for
    modern gamers than "Ultima Underworld"... but it's also from 24 years
    ago. It can't help but to have aged in that time.

    Fun fact: eating a lot of garlic in "Arx Fatalis" and then talking to
    NPCs right after will sometimes cause them to call the guards on you
    for a 'garlic attack'. Bad breath kills. ;-)




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  • From Justisaur@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 02, 2026 11:51:24
    On 1/1/2026 8:50 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 14:04:06 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:


    And I got at least Arx Fatalis from you Spalls. Since I got it from you
    I'll give it a try as soon as I can hype myself up to.


    Oh great, now I live in fear of that game not being as good as I hyped
    it up to be. Which... is probably the case. Don't mistake me; I think
    "Arx" is a good game, and it's certainly a better experience for
    modern gamers than "Ultima Underworld"... but it's also from 24 years
    ago. It can't help but to have aged in that time.


    Don't worry about it, if I don't like it, it's no big deal. I've at
    least tried so many games I didn't like in the last couple years I'm
    used to it. All the free an cheap games. I've literally got
    thousand(s) of games now. That would've been unthinkable in my early
    years, where I just had to suck it up and try to enjoy games no matter
    how bad. Some were so bad I just couldn't. Now I can be much more discerning.

    I had tried to get into one of the later Ultimas, Ultima IV (I think, as
    I remember it had the virtues at creation) but just didn't. I only ever
    really liked the original Ultima. I briefly played UO which I
    absolutely hated. I'm surprised I ever got into EQ and other MMOs after
    that disaster, I did enjoy playing with my friends in EQ, that's
    probably the only reason.

    Fun fact: eating a lot of garlic in "Arx Fatalis" and then talking to
    NPCs right after will sometimes cause them to call the guards on you
    for a 'garlic attack'. Bad breath kills. ;-)


    Lol! Now if you could damage enemies with your breath attack. Maybe
    vampires at least?

    I can't help myself, buying a bunch of cheap games today on the Steam
    Winter sale. Alan Wake got me started then I checked my wishlist. So
    not sure when I'll get to AF.

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  • From Mike S.@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 03, 2026 09:00:02
    On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 11:51:24 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    I had tried to get into one of the later Ultimas, Ultima IV (I think, as
    I remember it had the virtues at creation) but just didn't. I only ever >really liked the original Ultima. I briefly played UO which I
    absolutely hated. I'm surprised I ever got into EQ and other MMOs after >that disaster, I did enjoy playing with my friends in EQ, that's
    probably the only reason.

    That is how I played EverQuest for the first time. With a friend.
    Otherwise, I would not have bothered with it. I enjoyed it while
    playing it together with him, less so without him. I tried World of
    Warcraft when it came out and liked that so much more because it was
    an easier, more forgiving game. Now that particular version of World
    of Warcraft is considered hardcore! How things have changed.

    As for Ultima, if you ever want to give another one a chance, try
    Ultima 7 through Exult. The series peaked with that entry.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 03, 2026 11:26:40
    On Fri, 2 Jan 2026 11:51:24 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 1/1/2026 8:50 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 14:04:06 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:


    And I got at least Arx Fatalis from you Spalls. Since I got it from you >>> I'll give it a try as soon as I can hype myself up to.


    Oh great, now I live in fear of that game not being as good as I hyped
    it up to be. Which... is probably the case. Don't mistake me; I think
    "Arx" is a good game, and it's certainly a better experience for
    modern gamers than "Ultima Underworld"... but it's also from 24 years
    ago. It can't help but to have aged in that time.


    Don't worry about it, if I don't like it, it's no big deal. I've at
    least tried so many games I didn't like in the last couple years I'm
    used to it. All the free an cheap games. I've literally got
    thousand(s) of games now. That would've been unthinkable in my early
    years, where I just had to suck it up and try to enjoy games no matter
    how bad. Some were so bad I just couldn't. Now I can be much more >discerning.

    I had tried to get into one of the later Ultimas, Ultima IV (I think, as
    I remember it had the virtues at creation) but just didn't. I only ever >really liked the original Ultima. I briefly played UO which I
    absolutely hated. I'm surprised I ever got into EQ and other MMOs after >that disaster, I did enjoy playing with my friends in EQ, that's
    probably the only reason.

    As much as I love them, the Ultima games really were products of their
    time; while they have great historical value, its also really
    difficult to recommend people go back and re-play them today. What
    made them so special was how advanced they felt compared to the
    previous generation of games (and, indeed, even to their
    contemporaries)... but now that they are so old, all the things that
    once made them stand out are taken as de rigueur features. The fact
    that a game has a day-night cycle once was an amazing idea, but now?
    The idea that a CRPG doesn't have it is almost unthinkable.

    I can see people still enjoying "Ultima I" because it's just a
    bog-simple action/RPG; run around and smack things to death, go back
    and get XP from Lord British; eventually accumulate the magic tokens
    necessary to kill the evil foozle (if its presentation wasn't so
    primitive, I think "Akalabeth" would fare even better in this regard. Similarly, "Ultima III" can scratch the itch for a simple 8-bit CRPG
    (although I think more people would prefer the early Final Fantasy
    games, which play very similar but look better).

    "Ultima IV" was revolutionary in many ways. It added the
    aforementioned day/night cycle; NPCs started moving around rather than
    just be immobile quest-givers. The moons above moved across the sky,
    there were animated tiles that made the world look more alive, and the
    story tried to be more than just "kill the evil foozle and save the
    world". But that complexity also demands more engagement from the
    players, and I think most people facing that say, "Well, if I'm going
    to play something that demands so much of my time and brainpower, I
    might as well play something that isn't quite so primitive". The game
    is paradoxically both TOO complex and TOO simple at the same time.

    If I had to recommend an Ultima for modern gamers to play, it would
    probably be either "Ultima VII", or "Ultima Underworld". Those are the
    two games that have held up the best. "Ultima VII" has its own
    problems (the story is a bit repetitive, the inventory management is a
    pain, and the combat is pretty pointless) but it feels closest to a
    modern top-down CRPG. "Underworld" is, mechanically, more playable,
    but its clunky interface and controls still make it a hard sell.

    [That said: there was a port of "Ultima Underworld" to
    Playstation sold in Japan... but fans have added an English
    translation. It can be found in the usual dark corners of
    the Internet and is arguably more playable than the original
    PC version. Certainly the full-screen view window makes it
    feel a lot more modern.]



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  • From Ross Ridge@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 03, 2026 17:35:59
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    As for Ultima, if you ever want to give another one a chance, try
    Ultima 7 through Exult. The series peaked with that entry.

    I'd have a hard time recommending Ultima VII to anyone. I don't think
    it's really held up at all. Compared to the earlier Ultimas it had
    amazing graphics and presentation but its gameplay is and was crap.
    It's basically a long plodding adventure game. No one today is going to
    be impressed by the fullscreen presentation or the ability to bake bread.

    (Also playing the game with Exult at a higher resolution can make it much
    more obvious just how much Ultima VII's scale transformed the world of Britannia to a theme park imitation of itself.)

    I mentioned this before, but Ultima III is the game I'd recommend
    to people who want see what Ultima was about. It has all the basic
    mechanics of the of the first five games without the pretense of telling
    some groundbreaking story that's just going seem threadbare and trite
    to anyone whose played a CRPG released in the last 30 years.

    Ultima VII and its predecessor Ultima VI were evolutionary dead ends and
    were probably resonsible for the CRPG slump that lasted until Fallout,
    Diablo and Baldur's Gate showed how good RPGs could be by basically
    rejecting every inovation the Ultima series made after the fifth game.

    I think few people would enjoy playing Ultima III today, but it's
    what I'd recommend as the one Ultima game to play by anyone wanted to personally experience what it was like to play the Ultima games that
    were actually influential.

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    db //

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  • From Mike S.@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 03, 2026 14:12:35
    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 17:35:59 -0000 (UTC), rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    (Ross Ridge) wrote:

    I'd have a hard time recommending Ultima VII to anyone. I don't think
    it's really held up at all. Compared to the earlier Ultimas it had
    amazing graphics and presentation but its gameplay is and was crap.
    It's basically a long plodding adventure game. No one today is going to
    be impressed by the fullscreen presentation or the ability to bake bread.

    Admittedly, I have not played 7 since it was new. I loved it then, and
    I think I will now. But maybe the gameplay has not held up. Maybe you
    are right. I won't know until I play it again and that won't be soon.

    I mentioned this before, but Ultima III is the game I'd recommend
    to people who want see what Ultima was about. It has all the basic
    mechanics of the of the first five games without the pretense of telling
    some groundbreaking story that's just going seem threadbare and trite
    to anyone whose played a CRPG released in the last 30 years.

    I played Ultima 1 through 5 a number of years ago for the first time.
    I did not like 1 through 3 very much. But since Justisaur did like 1,
    he may like 3 more than I did. 4 and 5 I loved. I still need to play
    6.

    I think few people would enjoy playing Ultima III today, but it's
    what I'd recommend as the one Ultima game to play by anyone wanted to >personally experience what it was like to play the Ultima games that
    were actually influential.

    I would personally recommend 4 over the earlier entries. And if that
    one were too old-school for them, I would say skip to 7. And the most influential Ultima was likely Ultima Underworld anyway.

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  • From Justisaur@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 03, 2026 12:18:13
    On 1/2/2026 11:51 AM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 1/1/2026 8:50 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 14:04:06 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:


    And I got at least Arx Fatalis from you Spalls.ÿ Since I got it from you >>> I'll give it a try as soon as I can hype myself up to.


    Oh great, now I live in fear of that game not being as good as I hyped
    it up to be. Which... is probably the case. Don't mistake me; I think
    "Arx" is a good game, and it's certainly a better experience for
    modern gamers than "Ultima Underworld"... but it's also from 24 years
    ago. It can't help but to have aged in that time.


    Don't worry about it, if I don't like it, it's no big deal.ÿ I've at
    least tried so many games I didn't like in the last couple years I'm
    used to it.ÿ All the free an cheap games.ÿ I've literally got
    thousand(s) of games now.ÿ That would've been unthinkable in my early
    years, where I just had to suck it up and try to enjoy games no matter
    how bad.ÿ Some were so bad I just couldn't.ÿ Now I can be much more discerning.


    I gave it a try, 2 hours and I couldn't get through the tutorial. I eventually gave up. It's the controls. I couldn't even light a fire.
    It seemed like I was doing the spell right, though it took me about 20
    times to get that far, but the campfire didn't light. Inventory
    management was horrendous. The old low poly didn't bother me and it
    looked like it'd be a fun game if I could get past the really bad
    controls, but I couldn't.

    I'm tempted to see if there's some mods that make everything better, but
    I started playing other games. Maybe another time.

    Speaking of mods, I see there's some that can remove or let you control
    the time limit in Nightreign. Everyone's saying it'd be boring without
    the time limit, but not playing at all seems a waste. Or just playing
    that way until I feel more confident, I may be getting too old for that though.

    --
    -Justisaur

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  • From Ross Ridge@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 03, 2026 20:34:43
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Admittedly, I have not played 7 since it was new. I loved it then, and
    I think I will now. But maybe the gameplay has not held up. Maybe you
    are right. I won't know until I play it again and that won't be soon.

    I think people were able to forgive Ultima VII's faults, includings its
    many bugs on release, because of its technological innovations and the
    general hype the Ultima series had back then. The dumbed down mechanics
    also helped make it more accessable, drawing more players in, but that
    just set the stage for the disaster that was Ultima VIII.

    I think few people would enjoy playing Ultima III today, but it's
    what I'd recommend as the one Ultima game to play by anyone wanted to >>personally experience what it was like to play the Ultima games that
    were actually influential.

    I would personally recommend 4 over the earlier entries. And if that
    one were too old-school for them, I would say skip to 7.

    Any of the Ultima games is going to seem primitive to anyone who didn't
    grow up with them. Though I think the graphics of the first five games
    are actually be more inline with the pixel graphics aestetic of today.
    The 256-colour VGA graphics of the later games have a touch of realism
    that retro games today don't try to mimic.

    And the most influential Ultima was likely Ultima Underworld anyway.

    Well, I meant of the mainline Ultima games. The first Ultima Underworld
    game in particular was barely connected to the other Ultima games and
    could have easily been transplanted into any other fantasy setting.
    Ultima Underworld was also influential for an entirely different set of
    reasons than the mainline games, so should be played in addition to one
    of the mainline Ultimas.

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    [oo][oo] rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    -()-/()/ http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068/
    db //

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 04, 2026 14:12:00
    On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 14:12:35 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 17:35:59 -0000 (UTC), rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    (Ross Ridge) wrote:

    I'd have a hard time recommending Ultima VII to anyone. I don't think
    it's really held up at all. Compared to the earlier Ultimas it had
    amazing graphics and presentation but its gameplay is and was crap.
    It's basically a long plodding adventure game. No one today is going to
    be impressed by the fullscreen presentation or the ability to bake bread.

    Admittedly, I have not played 7 since it was new. I loved it then, and
    I think I will now. But maybe the gameplay has not held up. Maybe you
    are right. I won't know until I play it again and that won't be soon.

    I mentioned this before, but Ultima III is the game I'd recommend
    to people who want see what Ultima was about. It has all the basic >>mechanics of the of the first five games without the pretense of telling >>some groundbreaking story that's just going seem threadbare and trite
    to anyone whose played a CRPG released in the last 30 years.

    I played Ultima 1 through 5 a number of years ago for the first time.
    I did not like 1 through 3 very much. But since Justisaur did like 1,
    he may like 3 more than I did. 4 and 5 I loved. I still need to play
    6.

    I think few people would enjoy playing Ultima III today, but it's
    what I'd recommend as the one Ultima game to play by anyone wanted to >>personally experience what it was like to play the Ultima games that
    were actually influential.

    I would personally recommend 4 over the earlier entries. And if that
    one were too old-school for them, I would say skip to 7. And the most >influential Ultima was likely Ultima Underworld anyway.

    I'd argue that. Ultima 7 has frequently been cited by developers as
    one of the inspirations for many other CRPGs, ranging from Gothic to
    Baldurs Gate 3. And its impressive-for-the-time crafting (that existed
    for no other reason than to make the world feel more immersive and
    alive) became synonymous with 'real' roleplaying games; if a game
    /didn't/ include "baking bread", then it was just a pale imitation.
    Developers started adding in crafting for no other reason because of
    that, and I think that the excessive crafting trees we see in some
    games can directly trace that design back to the success of Ultima 7.

    "Underworld" was an excellent game, and it influenced numerous other
    games since its inception. Certainly its attempts to be a 3D
    open-world sandbox helped to birth games ranging fromn Deus Ex to
    Prey. It was undoubtedly an influential game.

    I just think "Ultima 7" was slightly more influential. ;-)




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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 04, 2026 14:35:35
    On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 20:34:43 -0000 (UTC), rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    (Ross Ridge) wrote:

    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Admittedly, I have not played 7 since it was new. I loved it then, and
    I think I will now. But maybe the gameplay has not held up. Maybe you
    are right. I won't know until I play it again and that won't be soon.

    I think people were able to forgive Ultima VII's faults, includings its
    many bugs on release, because of its technological innovations and the >general hype the Ultima series had back then. The dumbed down mechanics
    also helped make it more accessable, drawing more players in, but that
    just set the stage for the disaster that was Ultima VIII.

    It certainly was a technological masterpiece for its time. There was
    /nothing/ on the market that was like "Ultima VII" on release. The fully-speeched introduction was positively mindblowing, with the (more
    or less) lip-synced monster speaking directly to the player. The
    full-screen, HUDless interface controlled entirely by mouse was
    clumsy, but also fairly original. The world was incredibly detailed
    too, with 'living' NPCs acting out their entire lives on a daily
    basis. You'd even find animals hunting other animals!* It was a game
    that made PC owners sure of their chosen platform's technological
    superiority over pretty much any other home computer (or console).

    But everything else about the game was built around that idea of
    'world first, everything else' second; Origin had built the world
    first and bolted game mechanics and story onto that framework
    afterwards. But I disagree with the idea this was done to 'dumb down'
    the game and make it more accessible.

    Rather, there was also a significant move towards making the game more
    about the exploration and interaction with the world than focused on
    the combat (not a new idea: it had been something Origin had been
    working towards since Ultima 4), which made the game less 'traditional
    CRPG' (as it was thought of at the time, with games like "Pool of
    Radiance" and "Might and Magic" being seen as the exemplars) and more
    like an adventure game. The combat and plot were secondary to the
    world design and ability to explore. (Bethesda would later advance
    this concept with their Oblivion/Skywind/Fallout games).

    "Ultima 8", made under the direction of EA, definitely was an attempt
    to make the game more palatable towards a larger audience. But Ultima
    7" was more about trying to do something different.


    Well, I meant of the mainline Ultima games. The first Ultima Underworld
    game in particular was barely connected to the other Ultima games and
    could have easily been transplanted into any other fantasy setting.
    Ultima Underworld was also influential for an entirely different set of >reasons than the mainline games, so should be played in addition to one
    of the mainline Ultimas.

    Well, it was initially developed as a stand-alone dungeon-crawler and
    only gained its Ultima trappings after every other publisher but
    Origin rejected Blue Sky's (ne Looking Glass's) demo. And even then, a
    good chunk of the game made under Origin's care was done without a
    producer to direct the game's plot... at least until Warren Spector
    got assigned the job. The Ultima stuff was retrofitted onto the game afterwards. Even so, I think they did a pretty good job of capturing a
    lot of the feel of the mainline series: creating an immersive
    realistic world where exploration and conversation was as much a part
    of the adventure as combat.

    Ultima... the only game I'll happily talk about even than truck
    simulation ;-)







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    * years later, STALKER would boast about its "A-Life" systems doing
    the same thing and it made me smile because U7 had done it nearly 20
    years earlier




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