• Re: London Show, Saturday 25th October 2025

    From Stuart@3:633/10 to ROUGOL on Friday, September 26, 2025 16:30:04
    From: Spambin@argonet.co.uk

    In article <ap.663ec65c61.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
    ROUGOL <show2025@helpful-demon.co.uk> wrote:

    It is now only a month until the RISC OS London Show returns once again!

    Saturday 25th October 2025, open 11am - 4pm

    Harrow District Masonic Centre
    Northwick Circle
    Kenton, Harrow
    HA3 0EL

    I am sorry, but this clashes with "The Great British Model Railway show"
    at Gaydon again. Is there any chance you might choose a different date
    next year to avoid this clash?

    Stuart.

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  • From Folderol@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 14:41:11
    On Wed, 24 Sep 25 06:45:03 UTC
    ROUGOL <show2025@helpful-demon.co.uk> wrote:

    It is now only a month until the RISC OS London Show returns once again!

    Saturday 25th October 2025, open 11am - 4pm

    Harrow District Masonic Centre
    Northwick Circle
    Kenton, Harrow
    HA3 0EL

    According to openstreetmap, the postcode is HA3 141

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  • From Harriet Bazley@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 07, 2025 16:54:24
    On 7 Oct 2025 as I do recall,
    Folderol wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Sep 25 06:45:03 UTC
    ROUGOL <show2025@helpful-demon.co.uk> wrote:

    It is now only a month until the RISC OS London Show returns once again!

    Saturday 25th October 2025, open 11am - 4pm

    Harrow District Masonic Centre
    Northwick Circle
    Kenton, Harrow
    HA3 0EL

    According to openstreetmap, the postcode is HA3 141

    HA3 0EL and HA3 14L draw pins virtually on top of one another according
    to RiscOSM (both have OS grid reference TQ171883)

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  • From Stuart@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 21, 2025 09:15:03
    Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway
    Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

    Thank you
    Stuart

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  • From Steve Fryatt@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, October 21, 2025 19:42:15
    On 21 Oct, Stuart wrote in message
    <5c6f33ee75Spambin@argonet.co.uk>:

    Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

    The London show has always been on the same weekend -- that of the clocks changing -- for as long as I can remember.

    And (speaking as a one-time show organiser elsewhere) whatever weekend the organisers select, it will clash with some niche event somewhere else. I'm pretty sure that the ROUGOL folk aren't looking at the GBMRS website when selecting the show date, just to make sure that they spite Stuart Winsor.

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  • From J Peachey@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, October 22, 2025 11:15:03
    In message <mpro.t4hvy700mq91t0c1b.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
    Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

    On 21 Oct, Stuart wrote in message
    <5c6f33ee75Spambin@argonet.co.uk>:

    Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway
    Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

    The London show has always been on the same weekend -- that of the clocks changing -- for as long as I can remember.

    And (speaking as a one-time show organiser elsewhere) whatever weekend the organisers select, it will clash with some niche event somewhere else. I'm pretty sure that the ROUGOL folk aren't looking at the GBMRS website when selecting the show date, just to make sure that they spite Stuart Winsor.

    Also, it is very often the case, that you find a venue with a free
    weekend slot, and it stays in that slot year after year. I used to help organise a major event, and it stayed in the same weekend because other
    events occur for the other weekends and can't be moved. We used to block
    book 2-3 years ahead to make sure we had a venue. Booking the same weekend
    can also be cheaper, especially if reserving a 2nd 3 rd year.

    Finding venues, and free weekends, seems to have become a nightmare in the last few years.


    John

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  • From Stuart@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, October 22, 2025 16:15:03
    In article <mpro.t4hvy700mq91t0c1b.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
    Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
    On 21 Oct, Stuart wrote in message
    <5c6f33ee75Spambin@argonet.co.uk>:

    Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

    The London show has always been on the same weekend -- that of the
    clocks changing -- for as long as I can remember.

    And (speaking as a one-time show organiser elsewhere) whatever weekend
    the organisers select, it will clash with some niche event somewhere
    else. I'm pretty sure that the ROUGOL folk aren't looking at the GBMRS website when selecting the show date, just to make sure that they spite Stuart Winsor.

    I don't thing I would call the GBMRS a niche event, it attracts a lot of people.

    O well, unless the "Wakefield show" moves back to Wakefield next year,
    it'll be no shows for me then, and my money will remain in my pocket. Appologies to all the exhibitors.

    8-(

    --
    Stuart Winsor

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  • From Chris Hughes@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, October 22, 2025 19:08:27
    In message <5c6fc153f1Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
    Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <mpro.t4hvy700mq91t0c1b.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
    Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
    On 21 Oct, Stuart wrote in message
    <5c6f33ee75Spambin@argonet.co.uk>:

    Next year, Please try not to clash with "The Great British Model Railway >>> Show" at Gaydon. You have done this two years running now.

    The London show has always been on the same weekend -- that of the
    clocks changing -- for as long as I can remember.

    And (speaking as a one-time show organiser elsewhere) whatever weekend
    the organisers select, it will clash with some niche event somewhere
    else. I'm pretty sure that the ROUGOL folk aren't looking at the GBMRS
    website when selecting the show date, just to make sure that they spite
    Stuart Winsor.

    I don't thing I would call the GBMRS a niche event, it attracts a lot of people.

    O well, unless the "Wakefield show" moves back to Wakefield next year,
    it'll be no shows for me then, and my money will remain in my pocket. Appologies to all the exhibitors.

    I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but hopefully
    RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a regular basis.



    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From Stuart@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, October 23, 2025 08:15:03
    In article <d6fae86f5c.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but hopefully
    RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a regular basis.

    Thank you for the info, the return journey in one day is too far for me to drive these days.

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
    sending tools across the world
    http://www.twam.co.uk/

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  • From Matthew Phillips@3:633/10 to All on Friday, November 21, 2025 21:34:46
    In message <5c703601c5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
    on 23 Oct 2025 Stuart wrote:

    In article <d6fae86f5c.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but hopefully
    RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a regular basis.

    Thank you for the info, the return journey in one day is too far for me to drive these days.

    Surely if you are interested in the GB Model Railway Show you might be prepared to travel to Warrington by train instead? :-)

    --
    Matthew Phillips
    Durham

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  • From Stuart@3:633/10 to All on Monday, November 24, 2025 18:15:02
    In article <46f26e7f5c.Matthew@sinenomine.co.uk>,
    Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <5c703601c5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
    on 23 Oct 2025 Stuart wrote:

    In article <d6fae86f5c.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but
    hopefully RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a
    regular basis.

    Thank you for the info, the return journey in one day is too far for
    me to drive these days.

    Surely if you are interested in the GB Model Railway Show you might be prepared to travel to Warrington by train instead? :-)

    Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7 gallons
    of Petrol!

    Train travel to Warrington, leaving Kenilworth at 07.47, arriving
    Warrington central 10.46 would cost me ?64.60 (putting in details for this comimg Saturday). This would seriously affect the amount I have available
    to spend on Riscos hardware/software.

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
    sending tools across the world
    http://www.twam.co.uk/

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  • From David Higton@3:633/10 to All on Monday, November 24, 2025 20:55:41
    In message <5c80e70fe9Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
    Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

    Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7 gallons
    of Petrol!

    Good Grief! What on Earth do you drive that consumes petrol at that rate?
    A planet destroyer?

    I drive a quite large electric car. 17 miles would use roughly 5 kWh,
    which, at my average unit price, would probably cost under ?1.

    David

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  • From Stuart@3:633/10 to All on Monday, November 24, 2025 22:15:03
    In article <43e0f6805c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7
    gallons of Petrol!

    Good Grief! What on Earth do you drive that consumes petrol at that
    rate? A planet destroyer?

    Check you maths, round trip 34 miles!

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
    sending tools across the world
    http://www.twam.co.uk/

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  • From Matthew Phillips@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, November 25, 2025 21:33:52
    In message <5c80e70fe9Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
    on 24 Nov 2025 Stuart wrote:

    In article <46f26e7f5c.Matthew@sinenomine.co.uk>,
    Matthew Phillips <spam2011m@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <5c703601c5Spambin@argonet.co.uk>
    on 23 Oct 2025 Stuart wrote:

    In article <d6fae86f5c.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
    I can say now there will be no Wakefield Show next year, but
    hopefully RISC OS North show will become the new northern show on a
    regular basis.

    Thank you for the info, the return journey in one day is too far for
    me to drive these days.

    Surely if you are interested in the GB Model Railway Show you might be
    prepared to travel to Warrington by train instead? :-)

    Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7 gallons
    of Petrol!

    That wasn't really my point. I thought that if you like model railways
    you might like real railways as well, and therefore might like to avoid driving, but these things do not always follow!

    Train travel to Warrington, leaving Kenilworth at 07.47, arriving
    Warrington central 10.46 would cost me ?64.60 (putting in details for this comimg Saturday). This would seriously affect the amount I have available
    to spend on Riscos hardware/software.

    You can often get cheaper tickets by booking further ahead. At the moment
    you can get tickets for ?20 each way Kenilworth - Warrington for early January, for example.

    The problem with public transport prices for most people is that having
    tied up quite a lot of capital in a car, and paid tax and insurance each
    year up front, the marginal cost of driving somewhere is pretty cheap, so
    the train fare naturally looks unrealistically expensive. If you do not
    have a car, train travel is often still good value considering the
    additional spending money you have from not keeping a car.

    Your original complaint was that having the London show clashing with the model railway show meant you couldn't get to any RISC OS shows as
    Warrington was too far to drive. But from Kenilworth (which I realise is
    only your nearest station, not your home address) the distances to
    Warrington and Harrow are only about 10 miles different by car, and some
    route planners reckon that Warrington is quicker to get to.

    So I guess that the London show is also too far for you to drive for a day trip? Unless, of course, you have a handy family member to stay overnight
    with in the London area!

    Train tickets from Kenilworth to Harrow look like they are slightly more expensive than tickets to Warrington too.

    No need to volunteer more information - I'm only looking up stuff to
    distract myself from getting on with programming something! But I think
    it shows that travel choices are often affected by personal circumstances
    in a way that is hard for outsiders to follow. Just as choosing the date
    for a show is affected by circumstances that outsiders have little grasp
    of.

    For what it's worth, there were a few years pre-Covid when the London Show
    was on a weekend when our handy family member in the London area was
    routinely away running Hallowe'en events in the Peak District, so as exhibitors we either had to do the Durham to London trip in a day, by
    train (4.5 hours each way), or shell out for an overnight stay in London, which costs a lot more than Warrington!

    --
    Matthew Phillips
    Durham

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  • From Stuart@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, December 24, 2025 09:45:03
    In article <10g2s9b$2uhu7$1@druck.eternal-september.org>,
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
    On 24/11/2025 22:15, Stuart wrote:
    In article <43e0f6805c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
    David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
    Gaydon is 17 miles from my home, it takes about 20 mimutes and 0.7
    gallons of Petrol!

    Good Grief! What on Earth do you drive that consumes petrol at that
    rate? A planet destroyer?

    Check you maths, round trip 34 miles!

    20 minutes there and back too? Pretty good going.

    No Druck, stop acting like a Dumbo, which I know you aren't, about 20mins
    to get there down the A46/M40.

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
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