• Audio files

    From Chris Newman@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 08, 2026 11:49:33
    Hi all.

    Greetings from a VERY hot Australia.

    I sent this to acorn.misc but I'm not sure if it went so in the spirit of
    belt and braces, I'm trying here as well.

    For some time I've been using OHP (Tony Still& Photodesk) very
    successfully to produce presentations which include visual and audio..

    To associate an audio file with a still in the Scripts window you just
    drop it on top.
    OHP accepts WAV files which I am using. This has always worked flawlessly
    in the past. I've usually done it on my FAT RISC OS 5 machine but I'm
    away at the moment and using

    Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook

    I think I've done it on this machine as well but can't remember.

    This time I get an error message

    Sound file unusable: Couldn't auto-detect sample format.

    The sound files seem not to be corrupted as they play perfectly with
    Andre Timmermans' Digital CD.

    In Reporter I see a list of filetypes set for Digital CD one of which is

    FB1 WaveForm

    In my MimeMap I see the line

    audio/L16 WaveForm fb1 .wav .l16 .AIFF

    Is .116 an alternative RISC OS filetype?

    If I look at SetType for my audio file it gives Wave. I have seen
    previous ones which give WaveForm.

    Any idea what might be going on?

    Meanwhile, I'll do a bit of experimenting changing file type to FB1.

    I used Rick Hudson's SoundCon to convert one WAV files to Armadeus format
    and OHP recognised that but I wonder if the conversion degraded the sound quality a bit. Hard to tell on this tinny netbook speaker.

    Now all the files show the Armadeus icon, not the WAV icon even though
    I've only converted one.

    Any enlightenment gratefully received.

    --
    Chris Newman

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Richard Ashbery@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 08, 2026 14:48:00
    In article <5c97b7d08dmec@npost.uk>, Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk>
    wrote:

    For some time I've been using OHP (Tony Still& Photodesk) very
    successfully to produce presentations which include visual and
    audio..

    Excellent bit of software - pity it's no longer being developed.

    To associate an audio file with a still in the Scripts window you
    just drop it on top. OHP accepts WAV files which I am using. This
    has always worked flawlessly in the past. I've usually done it on
    my FAT RISC OS 5 machine but I'm away at the moment and using

    Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook

    I think I've done it on this machine as well but can't remember.

    Probably best to check on a dedicated RISC OS 5 machine. I've
    checked WAVs play correctly on OHP on my ARMX6 (RISC OS 5.31)
    and Raspberry Pi 4 (RISC OS 5.30).

    This time I get an error message

    Sound file unusable: Couldn't auto-detect sample format.

    Never seen this.

    The sound files seem not to be corrupted as they play perfectly
    with Andre Timmermans' Digital CD.

    In Reporter I see a list of filetypes set for Digital CD one of
    which is

    FB1 WaveForm

    Verified that correct format is WaveForm.

    In my MimeMap I see the line

    audio/L16 WaveForm fb1 .wav .l16 .AIFF

    Mines the same.

    Is .116 an alternative RISC OS filetype?

    Don't know.

    Any idea what might be going on?

    Apart from verifying that WAV files work correctly in my OHP version
    I'm sorry I can't really help.

    I wonder if it's an issue with Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39?

    Richard


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  • From Frederick@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, January 08, 2026 18:10:00
    In message <5c9801d4a8basura@invalid.addr.uk>
    Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:

    Verified that correct format is WaveForm.

    In my MimeMap I see the line

    audio/L16 WaveForm fb1 .wav .l16 .AIFF

    Mines the same.

    Is .116 an alternative RISC OS filetype?


    Don't know anything about your issue but I notice you've
    used .l16 and .116 in case it's relevant (lower case L & number 1).

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  • From Chris Newman@3:633/10 to All on Friday, January 09, 2026 12:04:26
    In article <5c9801d4a8basura@invalid.addr.uk>,
    Richard Ashbery <basura@invalid.addr.uk> wrote:
    In article <5c97b7d08dmec@npost.uk>, Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk>
    wrote:

    For some time I've been using OHP (Tony Still& Photodesk) very
    successfully to produce presentations which include visual and
    audio..

    Excellent bit of software - pity it's no longer being developed.

    To associate an audio file with a still in the Scripts window you
    just drop it on top. OHP accepts WAV files which I am using. This
    has always worked flawlessly in the past. I've usually done it on
    my FAT RISC OS 5 machine but I'm away at the moment and using

    Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook

    I think I've done it on this machine as well but can't remember.

    Probably best to check on a dedicated RISC OS 5 machine. I've
    checked WAVs play correctly on OHP on my ARMX6 (RISC OS 5.31)
    and Raspberry Pi 4 (RISC OS 5.30).

    This time I get an error message

    Sound file unusable: Couldn't auto-detect sample format.

    Never seen this.

    The sound files seem not to be corrupted as they play perfectly
    with Andre Timmermans' Digital CD.

    In Reporter I see a list of filetypes set for Digital CD one of
    which is

    FB1 WaveForm

    Verified that correct format is WaveForm.

    In my MimeMap I see the line

    audio/L16 WaveForm fb1 .wav .l16 .AIFF

    Mines the same.

    Is .116 an alternative RISC OS filetype?

    Don't know.

    Any idea what might be going on?

    Apart from verifying that WAV files work correctly in my OHP version
    I'm sorry I can't really help.

    I wonder if it's an issue with Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39?

    Happy New Year to all from a 45 deg C Australia. Phew!

    Thanks to all who replied.

    Re-filetyping as fb1 didn't help.

    I've solved the problem by converting them all to Armadeus files with
    SoundCon. Doesn't seem to have degraded the quality markedly.

    I'll investigate on the R5 m/c when I get home. It may indeed be a R4.39
    thing.

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Chris Newman@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 10, 2026 12:40:36
    In article <5c983d0262mec@npost.uk>,
    Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

    <Big snip>

    I'm sending this again because when I tried 2 days ago I got a refusal
    message

    Diagnostic-Code: smtp; Posting to this group is not allowed.
    Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:47:01 -0800 (PST)

    Very odd. Weird thing happen when in Australia. I'll try sending from a different e-address.
    IIRC mailing groups require the e-address you signed up with but news
    groups don't care. (Or is it the other way round?)

    ------

    Happy New Year to all from a 45 deg C Australia. Phew!

    Thanks to all who replied.

    Re-filetyping as fb1 didn't help.

    I've solved the problem by converting them all to Armadeus files with
    SoundCon. Doesn't seem to have degraded the quality markedly.

    I'll investigate on the R5 m/c when I get home. It may indeed be a R4.39
    thing.

    Presentations I've previously constructed on the R5 machine run happily
    on the VA. I presume because the WAV audio files have already been
    successfully allied to the slide.

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Jean-Michel@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 10, 2026 11:15:05
    In message <5c98c42948cjazz@npost.uk>
    Chris Newman <cjazz@npost.uk> wrote:

    In article <5c983d0262mec@npost.uk>,
    Chris Newman <mec@npost.uk> wrote:

    <Big snip>

    I'm sending this again because when I tried 2 days ago I got a refusal message

    Diagnostic-Code: smtp; Posting to this group is not allowed. Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:47:01 -0800 (PST)

    Very odd. Weird thing happen when in Australia. I'll try sending from a different e-address.
    IIRC mailing groups require the e-address you signed up with but news
    groups don't care. (Or is it the other way round?)

    ------

    Happy New Year to all from a 45 deg C Australia. Phew!

    Thanks to all who replied.

    Re-filetyping as fb1 didn't help.

    I've solved the problem by converting them all to Armadeus files with SoundCon. Doesn't seem to have degraded the quality markedly.

    I'll investigate on the R5 m/c when I get home. It may indeed be a R4.39 thing.

    Presentations I've previously constructed on the R5 machine run happily
    on the VA. I presume because the WAV audio files have already been successfully allied to the slide.

    Hello 3 deg C France....
    This can be a sample rates problem on Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39
    To test

    REM Show the sample rates available from the sound system.
    SYS "Sound_SampleRate",0 TO ,nrates
    PRINT"Sound system has ";nrates;" sample rates available"
    FOR index = 1 TO nrates
    SYS "Sound_SampleRate",2,index TO ,,rate
    PRINT"Index ";index;" rate ";rate / 1024;" Hz"
    NEXT
    Here a little utility from Jim Lesurf to get information on &FB1 files
    https://jeanmichelb.riscos.fr/Audio/Download/ReadWavHeader.zip
    (it's a desktop version,just drag and drop)


    For information:
    Prosound is able to load several formats (wav /AIF), edit them if
    necessary and convert them. The application works well with a CM4 or
    ARMX6.
    As an aside, Prosound also recognizes certain ARMovie files (&AE7) https://jeanmichelb.riscos.fr/Audio/Download/ProSoundV202.zip

    --
    Jean-Michel

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  • From Chris Newman@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 11, 2026 11:25:56
    In article <3a84f0985c.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>,
    Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> wrote:
    In message <5c98c42948cjazz@npost.uk>
    Chris Newman <cjazz@npost.uk> wrote:

    <Big snip>

    Hello 3 deg C France....
    This can be a sample rates problem on Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39
    To test

    REM Show the sample rates available from the sound system.
    SYS "Sound_SampleRate",0 TO ,nrates
    PRINT"Sound system has ";nrates;" sample rates available"
    FOR index = 1 TO nrates
    SYS "Sound_SampleRate",2,index TO ,,rate
    PRINT"Index ";index;" rate ";rate / 1024;" Hz"
    NEXT
    Here a little utility from Jim Lesurf to get information on &FB1 files
    https://jeanmichelb.riscos.fr/Audio/Download/ReadWavHeader.zip
    (it's a desktop version,just drag and drop)


    For information:
    Prosound is able to load several formats (wav /AIF), edit them if
    necessary and convert them. The application works well with a CM4 or
    ARMX6.
    As an aside, Prosound also recognizes certain ARMovie files (&AE7) https://jeanmichelb.riscos.fr/Audio/Download/ProSoundV202.zip


    Thanks for this. I'll investigate when I get a bit of time.

    Should that bit of code be put in an obey file? I'm a bit hazy on the
    technical side.

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Harriet Bazley@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 11, 2026 02:08:26
    On 11 Jan 2026 as I do recall,
    Chris Newman wrote:

    In article <3a84f0985c.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>,
    Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> wrote:

    Hello 3 deg C France....
    This can be a sample rates problem on Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39
    To test

    REM Show the sample rates available from the sound system.
    SYS "Sound_SampleRate",0 TO ,nrates
    PRINT"Sound system has ";nrates;" sample rates available"
    FOR index = 1 TO nrates
    SYS "Sound_SampleRate",2,index TO ,,rate
    PRINT"Index ";index;" rate ";rate / 1024;" Hz"
    NEXT

    [snip]

    Should that bit of code be put in an obey file? I'm a bit hazy on the technical side.

    It's a BASIC program.
    Save it as a file of type BASIC (&FFB) and double-click the file to run
    it.

    Or save it into your root directory, open a taskwindow, and type
    *Run <filename>
    in order to get the results in a form that can be copied and pasted;
    mine gives:

    Sound system has 9 sample rates available
    Index 1 rate 8000 Hz
    Index 2 rate 11025 Hz
    Index 3 rate 12000 Hz
    Index 4 rate 16000 Hz
    Index 5 rate 22050 Hz
    Index 6 rate 24000 Hz
    Index 7 rate 44100 Hz
    Index 8 rate 48000 Hz
    Index 9 rate 96000 Hz


    --
    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    Flying is the art of throwing yourself at the ground... and missing.

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  • From Chris Newman@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 11, 2026 18:09:19
    In article <59cc47995c.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>,
    Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
    On 11 Jan 2026 as I do recall,


    Should that bit of code be put in an obey file? I'm a bit hazy on the technical side.

    It's a BASIC program.
    Save it as a file of type BASIC (&FFB) and double-click the file to run
    it.

    Or save it into your root directory, open a taskwindow, and type
    *Run <filename>
    in order to get the results in a form that can be copied and pasted;
    mine gives:

    Sound system has 9 sample rates available
    Index 1 rate 8000 Hz
    Index 2 rate 11025 Hz
    Index 3 rate 12000 Hz
    Index 4 rate 16000 Hz
    Index 5 rate 22050 Hz
    Index 6 rate 24000 Hz
    Index 7 rate 44100 Hz
    Index 8 rate 48000 Hz
    Index 9 rate 96000 Hz

    Ta.

    --
    Chris Newman

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)