• Re: OT: Post-infection syndromes

    From The Natural Philosopher@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 11:16:33
    On 24/01/2026 09:24, Nuno Silva wrote:
    Now COVID-19 could have been a good excuse not only to improve
    societies' reaction to illness (mask when sick, improve sick leave, and
    so on), but also to understand these post-infection scenarios better and
    at least take them into account somehow.

    Sadly, we know this was grabbed by political extremists that are undoing
    the little advances that were achieved during the early years of the pandemic.

    politicians today are far more interested in controlling populations
    than tending to them and as for educating them? Heaven forfend!

    Would any educated person vote for any of them?

    --
    "Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing...."
    "What kind of person is not interested in those things?"

    "Jeremy Corbyn?"



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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 14:14:26

    [Note Followup-To: alt.unix.geeks, since this has nothing to do with
    Linux]

    On 2026-01-24 10:24, Nuno Silva wrote:
    On 2025-12-23, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
    On 23/12/2025 19:38, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    ’’’’I wish I could say that i am doing better but it seems that the
    whole day of surgery and repair has exhaberated my Chronic Exhaustion
    and I am so, so worn out by the activities of daily living that it is a >>>> relief to sit down and type for a bit.
    ’’’’Usually when I have over-exerted myself I get sick with influenza >>>> like symptoms but I am just so tired that it is hard to believe.

    BTDTGTTS...

    My last operation fucked me up for over a year with similar symptoms.

    ’’’’If you every have a 'flu like illness and find that your get tired on
    resuming your normal activities for the sake of your health get more
    rest and be very careful of exertion.’ This may or may not prevent the >>>> post virual fatigue syndrome but I had never heard of such a problem
    in my years of nursing.’ So I went out and started to exercise again and >>>> soon I was reduced to very little activity. That was when I was 46 yoa >>>> and I am now 88 yoa and can barely take care of myself.
    ’’’’bliss

    You may have some undiagnosed viral illness or even a depressed immune
    system due to some cancer or other.

    I think the long-term impacts of viral infections are becoming clearer
    and clearer. Post-polio syndrome has been reported since at least the
    1980s. Long COVID is well known. Epstein-Barr virus has been
    statistically connected to MS (although I don?t think anyone?s figured
    out what the mechanism is yet) and more recently Lupus.

    Personally I?ve got lucky so far. But I know four people with MS and
    one of my coworkers spent years struggling with long COVID, with
    Bobbie?s description above matching their experience. (Another coworker
    went long-term sick around the same time but I don?t have the inside
    track on what?s up with them.)

    I do get the impression that there are some patterns arising out of
    "Long COVID" that seem to match what I've seen before SARS-CoV-2 was a
    thing, and that there might be something out there.

    Now COVID-19 could have been a good excuse not only to improve
    societies' reaction to illness (mask when sick, improve sick leave, and
    so on), but also to understand these post-infection scenarios better and
    at least take them into account somehow.

    Sadly, we know this was grabbed by political extremists that are undoing
    the little advances that were achieved during the early years of the pandemic.

    (I'm happy to move this to alt.unix.geeks if there's any reply.)

    Here we had an early flu season, early and strong, and suddenly masks
    were again mandatory in clinics and health centres. People just accepted
    it without complaint, but many were not aware and did not have a mask,
    had to be supplied one on the spot. Me, I still have a mask or two in my
    bag.


    In the far east, people with flu have the courtesy of wearing a mask on
    the street. Since before Covid, I think.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 24, 2026 08:43:51


    On 1/24/26 05:14, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    [Note Followup-To: alt.unix.geeks, since this has nothing to do with
    Linux]

    It has a lot to do with some Linux Users.

    On 2026-01-24 10:24, Nuno Silva wrote:
    On 2025-12-23, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
    On 23/12/2025 19:38, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
    ’ ’’’’I wish I could say that i am doing better but it seems that the >>>>> whole day of surgery and repair has exhaberated my Chronic Exhaustion >>>>> and I am so, so worn out by the activities of daily living that it
    is a
    relief to sit down and type for a bit.
    ’ ’’’’Usually when I have over-exerted myself I get sick with
    influenza
    like symptoms but I am just so tired that it is hard to believe.

    BTDTGTTS...

    My last operation fucked me up for over a year with similar symptoms.

    ’ ’’’’If you every have a 'flu like illness and find that your get
    tired on
    resuming your normal activities for the sake of your health get more >>>>> rest and be very careful of exertion.’ This may or may not prevent the >>>>> post virual fatigue syndrome but I had never heard of such a problem >>>>> in my years of nursing.’ So I went out and started to exercise
    again and
    soon I was reduced to very little activity. That was when I was 46 yoa >>>>> and I am now 88 yoa and can barely take care of myself.
    ’ ’’’’bliss

    You may have some undiagnosed viral illness or even a depressed immune >>>> system due to some cancer or other.

    I don't think I have cancer but I have age as well as my SAID.
    Most people after the age of 42 suffer immune systems decline.

    I think the long-term impacts of viral infections are becoming clearer
    and clearer. Post-polio syndrome has been reported since at least the
    1980s. Long COVID is well known.’ Epstein-Barr virus has been
    statistically connected to MS (although I don?t think anyone?s figured
    out what the mechanism is yet) and more recently Lupus.

    Personally I?ve got lucky so far.’ But I know four people with MS and
    one of my coworkers spent years struggling with long COVID, with
    Bobbie?s description above matching their experience. (Another coworker
    went long-term sick around the same time but I don?t have the inside
    track on what?s up with them.)

    I do get the impression that there are some patterns arising out of
    "Long COVID" that seem to match what I've seen before SARS-CoV-2 was a
    thing, and that there might be something out there.

    Now COVID-19 could have been a good excuse not only to improve
    societies' reaction to illness (mask when sick, improve sick leave, and
    so on), but also to understand these post-infection scenarios better and
    at least take them into account somehow.

    Sadly, we know this was grabbed by political extremists that are undoing
    the little advances that were achieved during the early years of the
    pandemic.

    (I'm happy to move this to alt.unix.geeks if there's any reply.)

    Here we had an early flu season, early and strong, and suddenly masks
    were again mandatory in clinics and health centres. People just accepted
    it without complaint, but many were not aware and did not have a mask,
    had to be supplied one on the spot. Me, I still have a mask or two in my bag.


    In the far east, people with flu have the courtesy of wearing a mask on
    the street. Since before Covid, I think.

    Quite a while before Covid-19. I saw them on the streets
    when I was on Taiwan in the 1950s.

    Not just with influenza but with any upper respiratory illness that might
    be spread by coughing, sneezing, or merely breathing a bit hard. I have multiple allegies and sensitivities and am subject to coughing spells. Since
    I have to use the buses to go places when i am away from my apartment
    I am almost always wearing a mask. Back in 2020 when they announced
    that people could have Covid without symptoms I started weating a doubled surgical mask and now kn95 masks.

    Under aegis of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. who may be just a grifter we
    have a spreading effusion of measles and he has had to reverse his
    stance against the use of the measles, mumps and rubella.
    He is hoping to infect lots of infants with Hepatitis by removing
    that vaccine from the list of scheduled shots for infants.

    I was born before we had the MMR vaccine or the Hepatitis vaccine
    and have had most of those some as I was working as a nurse.

    The Systemic Exertion Intolerance Disease that I became aware of
    when i was 46 followed not only numerous viral infections but physical
    stress due to surgical blood loss. Some people have similar problems
    with malformation of the orifice in the skull that permits connection
    of the brain the spinal cord. Those can also be due to trauma.
    Then we had one man in the CFIDS support group online who
    eventually learned his brain was being attacked by late stage
    syphillis. Others find themselves being attacked by mold spores.

    My point is that there are lots of causes including parasitism
    of the sufferer by various organisms from those causing malaria
    to more exotic little things that make your immune system
    their playground.

    bliss

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