with <slrn10me2bs.2q1o6.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> Lars Poulsen wrote:

[Posted here, beause I can't find a live perl group; if you know of
one, please refer me there.]

# This troll is so lame and boring. Reaching for popcorn anyway.

*SKIP* [ 2 lines 1 level deep]

#! /usr/bin/perl
#
use strict;
my $aaa;
my @bbb = ( # "1ab",
"2bc",
"3cd"
):

Your attempt at The Complete Minimal Example has been noted and
invalidated. This isn't valid perl. Either way perl complains about
'syntax error ... nead "):"'.

*CUT* [ 6 lines 1 level deep]

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On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 13:09:25 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

There was a blank line at the top, and the error messages must have
come from the shell (bash) rather than from perl.

I have made a similar mistake once or twice, by forgetting the shebang
line in a Python script.

The symptom was, as soon as I ran the script, my terminal session
would completely hang.

Took me a while to figure out what was going on, the first time: the
system thought it was a shell script, and the first non-comment line
happened to be an ?import? statement. As you may or may not know,
there is a command in the ImageMagick suite named ?import?, for doing
screen captures. The hang was actually the program waiting for me to
select the window/region to capture.

I see that ImageMagick is now moving to prefix all its commands as
subcommands of a common ?magick? command. I guess reducing pollution
of the global command-name space is, in general, a Good Thing ...

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On 2026-01-14, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:

I see that ImageMagick is now moving to prefix all its commands as subcommands of a common ?magick? command. I guess reducing pollution
of the global command-name space is, in general, a Good Thing ...

Would make more sense to have a common prefix, given that at least some
of the platforms where it gets installed *are* designed around the
concept of utilities.

Even, conceptually, things like a separate online manual page for each
utility as opposed to having everything in a single page, or having to
split it over several pages that have subnames.

(Didn't ffmpeg's situation regarding the online manual get discussed
here some months ago?)

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Nuno Silva

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On 1/14/26 18:51, Nuno Silva wrote:

On 2026-01-14, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:

I see that ImageMagick is now moving to prefix all its commands as
subcommands of a common ?magick? command. I guess reducing pollution
of the global command-name space is, in general, a Good Thing ...

Would make more sense to have a common prefix, given that at least some
of the platforms where it gets installed *are* designed around the
concept of utilities.

Wouldn't hurt. However a zillion related utils that
get evoked separately DO clutter-up things. This may
be a six/half-dozen situation here.

'Granularity' has its uses, esp on multi-core CPUs,
but it's not a general-purpose fix-all.

Even, conceptually, things like a separate online manual page for each utility as opposed to having everything in a single page, or having to
split it over several pages that have subnames.

(Didn't ffmpeg's situation regarding the online manual get discussed
here some months ago?)

FFMPEG is one of those "collaborative efforts", many
people contributed their own little solutions over
the years and they're just bundled under the general
"ffmpeg" umbrella. So, multi-manuals are understandable,
not desirable, but understandable.

To really use ffmpeg stuff these days it's best to skip
the official manuals and surf the 'solutions' pages. There
are SO many options now, often more than one way to get
similar results, that you'd go mad trying to find EXACTLY
what you want on the CL, or evoke separately. I know, I
use ffmpeg on four units for processing security cam images,
twice over on one archival unit.


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In comp.os.linux.misc, Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> wrote:

with <slrn10me2bs.2q1o6.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> Lars Poulsen wrote:

[Posted here, beause I can't find a live perl group; if you know of
one, please refer me there.]

I subscribe to comp.lang.perl.misc, and I suspect many others do, too.
We just don't have questions coming in.

# This troll is so lame and boring. Reaching for popcorn anyway.

Hmmm.

Your attempt at The Complete Minimal Example has been noted and
invalidated. This isn't valid perl. Either way perl complains about
'syntax error ... nead "):"'.

I suspect it does not say that at all. Probably no perl error message
says anything with "nead".

Elijah
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your attempt at the The Complete Takedown Post has been noted

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with <eli$2601150111@qaz.wtf> Eli the Bearded wrote:

In comp.os.linux.misc, Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> wrote:

with <slrn10me2bs.2q1o6.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> Lars Poulsen wrote:

[Posted here, beause I can't find a live perl group; if you know of
one, please refer me there.]

I subscribe to comp.lang.perl.misc, and I suspect many others do, too.
We just don't have questions coming in.

# This troll is so lame and boring. Reaching for popcorn anyway.

Hmmm.

Like right here <slrn10me2bs.2q1o6.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>.

Your attempt at The Complete Minimal Example has been noted and
invalidated. This isn't valid perl. Either way perl complains about
'syntax error ... nead "):"'.

I suspect it does not say that at all. Probably no perl error message
says anything with "nead".

And no shame in it.

your attempt at the The Complete Takedown Post has been noted

I don't claim success. You can't say it was failure.

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Torvalds' goal for Linux is very simple: World Domination
Stallman's goal for GNU is even simpler: Freedom

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