On 13/01/2026 17:52, c186282 wrote:

On 1/13/26 04:03, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:

Noted that the Deb libs are still using VERY
old versions of FPC/Lazarus - Laz 2.2

The current version of Lazarus is 4.4, FPC around 3.3 or so.

lazarus in Debian stable is 4.0 (with 4.4 in unstable). If you?re seeing
something older you?re not using current Debian.

MX

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lazarus

Had to get the CURRENT Lazarus/FPC stuff
directly from the Laz site. Previous ver
didn't work, they got some version stuff
wrong. The latest though WORKS.

Is this 'Pascal Prejudice', or just laziness ?

Debian is an unpaid volunteer project. If nobody who cares about a given
language volunteers their time, the outcome is poor or nonexistent
support for that language.

Delphi still sells (for a LOT) ... so there clearly
are people who care about Pascal.

OK, it's Pascal++ at this point.

They keep updating FORTRAN compilers, even COBOL
compilers. I suspect anti-Wirthism !!!

Delphi was born around the time people started connecting Windows
applications to remote databases via OCBC. There will be bespoke
applications written in the mid 90s that are still viable being maintained
to this day.

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On 1/15/26 17:38, Jason H wrote:

On 13/01/2026 17:52, c186282 wrote:

On 1/13/26 04:03, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> writes:

Noted that the Deb libs are still using VERY
old versions of FPC/Lazarus - Laz 2.2

The current version of Lazarus is 4.4, FPC around 3.3 or so.

lazarus in Debian stable is 4.0 (with 4.4 in unstable). If you?re seeing >>> something older you?re not using current Debian.

ÿ MX

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lazarus

Had to get the CURRENT Lazarus/FPC stuff
directly from the Laz site. Previous ver
didn't work, they got some version stuff
wrong. The latest though WORKS.

Is this 'Pascal Prejudice', or just laziness ?

Debian is an unpaid volunteer project. If nobody who cares about a given >>> language volunteers their time, the outcome is poor or nonexistent
support for that language.

ÿ Delphi still sells (for a LOT) ... so there clearly
ÿ are people who care about Pascal.

ÿ OK, it's Pascal++ at this point.

ÿ They keep updating FORTRAN compilers, even COBOL
ÿ compilers. I suspect anti-Wirthism !!!

Delphi was born around the time people started connecting Windows applications to remote databases via OCBC. There will be bespoke
applications written in the mid 90s that are still viable being maintained
to this day.

No doubt.

Delphi has object Pascal going for it, but it
also has a great WYSIWYG form builder with a
mass of fine-tuning and IQ-adding options. If
you need a GUI like TODAY, Delphi (Laz/FPC) is
your first stop. Still use it, still like it.


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