• Samsung: How many restarts for "software update"?

    From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 21:57:40
    Samsung A36
    Android 15
    UI 7.0

    Seems to be stuck in a repeating software (OS) update. The phone came
    with UI 7.0 and Android 15. Brand new phone. This was the first day it
    was powered up, and went through the SIM card activation.

    Later a notification said there was a software update which, I guess,
    means an OS update. It updated to UI 8.0 and Android 16. However, when
    I finally got back to the Home screen, a notification says "finishing
    previous update ...". Eventually that goes away after many minutes, but
    soon I get another notification about a software update, and the whole
    update begins anew: "Your phone has been updated ...", "Software update
    - Your phone has been updated - OK", tap on OK, get notified of an
    software update, tap OK, shows percentage downloaded, and then
    percentage verified, restarts the phone, and after getting back to the
    Home screen a notification shows "finishing previous update ...", and
    the whole process repeats again.

    It's been a few minutes of not seeing the "Software update", so maybe it finally stablized. I think it went through 3 restarts, but I was busy
    and probably lost count. How many times does the phone cycle through
    this update process before it finally completes?

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  • From Jörg Lorenz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 08:05:13
    On 19.01.26 04:57, VanguardLH wrote:
    Samsung A36
    Android 15
    UI 7.0

    Seems to be stuck in a repeating software (OS) update. The phone came
    with UI 7.0 and Android 15. Brand new phone. This was the first day it
    was powered up, and went through the SIM card activation.

    Later a notification said there was a software update which, I guess,
    means an OS update. It updated to UI 8.0 and Android 16. However, when
    I finally got back to the Home screen, a notification says "finishing previous update ...". Eventually that goes away after many minutes, but
    soon I get another notification about a software update, and the whole
    update begins anew: "Your phone has been updated ...", "Software update
    - Your phone has been updated - OK", tap on OK, get notified of an
    software update, tap OK, shows percentage downloaded, and then
    percentage verified, restarts the phone, and after getting back to the
    Home screen a notification shows "finishing previous update ...", and
    the whole process repeats again.

    It's been a few minutes of not seeing the "Software update", so maybe it finally stablized. I think it went through 3 restarts, but I was busy
    and probably lost count. How many times does the phone cycle through
    this update process before it finally completes?

    Once.

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  • From Jörg Lorenz@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 08:10:20
    On 19.01.26 08:05, J”rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.01.26 04:57, VanguardLH wrote:
    It's been a few minutes of not seeing the "Software update", so maybe it
    finally stablized. I think it went through 3 restarts, but I was busy
    and probably lost count. How many times does the phone cycle through
    this update process before it finally completes?

    Once.

    Android is not Windows. The kernel is Linux.


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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 16:44:59
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Samsung A36
    Android 15
    UI 7.0

    Seems to be stuck in a repeating software (OS) update. The phone came
    with UI 7.0 and Android 15. Brand new phone. This was the first day it
    was powered up, and went through the SIM card activation.

    Later a notification said there was a software update which, I guess,
    means an OS update. It updated to UI 8.0 and Android 16. However, when
    I finally got back to the Home screen, a notification says "finishing previous update ...". Eventually that goes away after many minutes, but
    soon I get another notification about a software update, and the whole
    update begins anew: "Your phone has been updated ...", "Software update
    - Your phone has been updated - OK", tap on OK, get notified of an
    software update, tap OK, shows percentage downloaded, and then
    percentage verified, restarts the phone, and after getting back to the
    Home screen a notification shows "finishing previous update ...", and
    the whole process repeats again.

    It's been a few minutes of not seeing the "Software update", so maybe it finally stablized. I think it went through 3 restarts, but I was busy
    and probably lost count. How many times does the phone cycle through
    this update process before it finally completes?

    There probably was a backlog of 'Software update's (which is indeed a system/OS update, not an app update or a 'Google Play system' update).

    If the 'Brand new phone' came with Android 15, it was out-of-date when
    you got it (I got my Android 16 update for my Samsung Galaxy A56 in
    early October). So it probably did an update to Android 16 and then one
    or more security updates. IIRC, security updates are not/not_always
    cumulative.

    Bottom line: Since we don't know which updates were offered/installed, there's no way of knowing whether the updating of your phone was normal
    or not.

    N.B. Before allowing the 'Software update's, I always make a (long) screenshot of the 'Software update' screen and after the update a
    screenshot of the (Settings) 'Software information' screen. So I have a
    record of before and after.

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  • From VanguardLH@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 19:19:31
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Samsung A36
    Android 15
    UI 7.0

    Seems to be stuck in a repeating software (OS) update. The phone came
    with UI 7.0 and Android 15. Brand new phone. This was the first day it
    was powered up, and went through the SIM card activation.

    Later a notification said there was a software update which, I guess,
    means an OS update. It updated to UI 8.0 and Android 16. However, when
    I finally got back to the Home screen, a notification says "finishing
    previous update ...". Eventually that goes away after many minutes, but
    soon I get another notification about a software update, and the whole
    update begins anew: "Your phone has been updated ...", "Software update
    - Your phone has been updated - OK", tap on OK, get notified of an
    software update, tap OK, shows percentage downloaded, and then
    percentage verified, restarts the phone, and after getting back to the
    Home screen a notification shows "finishing previous update ...", and
    the whole process repeats again.

    It's been a few minutes of not seeing the "Software update", so maybe it
    finally stablized. I think it went through 3 restarts, but I was busy
    and probably lost count. How many times does the phone cycle through
    this update process before it finally completes?

    There probably was a backlog of 'Software update's (which is indeed a system/OS update, not an app update or a 'Google Play system' update).

    If the 'Brand new phone' came with Android 15, it was out-of-date when
    you got it (I got my Android 16 update for my Samsung Galaxy A56 in
    early October). So it probably did an update to Android 16 and then one
    or more security updates. IIRC, security updates are not/not_always cumulative.

    Android 16 was *released* in June 2025.

    Samsung Galaxy A36 was released in March 2025 -- way to close to the
    Android 16 release date.

    Obviously phones sitting in boxes in storage aren't going to get
    updated. Takes time to deploy a new OS to in-stock phones.

    Bottom line: Since we don't know which updates were offered/installed, there's no way of knowing whether the updating of your phone was normal
    or not.

    N.B. Before allowing the 'Software update's, I always make a (long) screenshot of the 'Software update' screen and after the update a
    screenshot of the (Settings) 'Software information' screen. So I have a record of before and after.

    Alas, the notification only said "Software update". When I tapped on
    the notification, the expanded bubble gave no additional information.
    One could've been for Android 15 to 16, the other for UI 7 to 8, but
    don't know what the 3rd would be for other than some sync or cleanup
    task.

    I got concerned when there were 3 "Software updates", and 3 phone
    restarts. I figured one would be for Android 15 to 16, and maybe the
    second for UI 7 to UI 8, but a bit wary what the 3rd restart was for,
    like maybe one of the other updates got interrupted.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 19:08:19
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Samsung A36
    Android 15
    UI 7.0

    Seems to be stuck in a repeating software (OS) update. The phone came
    with UI 7.0 and Android 15. Brand new phone. This was the first day it >> was powered up, and went through the SIM card activation.

    Later a notification said there was a software update which, I guess,
    means an OS update. It updated to UI 8.0 and Android 16. However, when >> I finally got back to the Home screen, a notification says "finishing
    previous update ...". Eventually that goes away after many minutes, but >> soon I get another notification about a software update, and the whole
    update begins anew: "Your phone has been updated ...", "Software update
    - Your phone has been updated - OK", tap on OK, get notified of an
    software update, tap OK, shows percentage downloaded, and then
    percentage verified, restarts the phone, and after getting back to the
    Home screen a notification shows "finishing previous update ...", and
    the whole process repeats again.

    It's been a few minutes of not seeing the "Software update", so maybe it >> finally stablized. I think it went through 3 restarts, but I was busy
    and probably lost count. How many times does the phone cycle through
    this update process before it finally completes?

    There probably was a backlog of 'Software update's (which is indeed a system/OS update, not an app update or a 'Google Play system' update).

    If the 'Brand new phone' came with Android 15, it was out-of-date when you got it (I got my Android 16 update for my Samsung Galaxy A56 in
    early October). So it probably did an update to Android 16 and then one
    or more security updates. IIRC, security updates are not/not_always cumulative.

    Android 16 was *released* in June 2025.

    Samsung Galaxy A36 was released in March 2025 -- way to close to the
    Android 16 release date.

    Obviously phones sitting in boxes in storage aren't going to get
    updated. Takes time to deploy a new OS to in-stock phones.

    Yes, that's what I meant with 'out-of-date'. Not blaming anybody.

    BTW, release time - of the phone versus the Android version - is not
    what matters, but when *your* phone was *manufactured*. If your phone
    was manufactured a reasonable time after June 2025, it should have
    Android 16.

    Bottom line: Since we don't know which updates were offered/installed, there's no way of knowing whether the updating of your phone was normal
    or not.

    N.B. Before allowing the 'Software update's, I always make a (long) screenshot of the 'Software update' screen and after the update a screenshot of the (Settings) 'Software information' screen. So I have a record of before and after.

    Alas, the notification only said "Software update". When I tapped on
    the notification, the expanded bubble gave no additional information.

    I don't mean the notification or the bubble, but the full (and long)
    screen you get after that. That about two (or more) screen-lengths
    'page' says something like

    "Software update

    Almost done! Restart your
    phone to finish the update.

    <details about this update>

    Learn more at:
    <link to release info>

    <more info>

    Update information
    * One UI version: ...
    * Android version: ...
    * Version: <related to your model>
    * Size: ...
    * Security patch level: <month> <day, <year>
    ...
    (Schedule restart)
    (Restart now)"

    The 'Update information' clearly indicates which update is what and
    can be traced back to the <link to release info> webpage.

    One could've been for Android 15 to 16, the other for UI 7 to 8, but
    don't know what the 3rd would be for other than some sync or cleanup
    task.

    I got concerned when there were 3 "Software updates", and 3 phone
    restarts. I figured one would be for Android 15 to 16, and maybe the
    second for UI 7 to UI 8, but a bit wary what the 3rd restart was for,
    like maybe one of the other updates got interrupted.

    On my A56, the update from Android 15 to 16 and from One UI 7 to 8 was
    one and the same update.

    Bottom line: Next time you see

    "(Schedule restart)
    (Restart now)"

    at the bottom of your screen, make a (long) screenshot, before one of
    these buttons.

    BTW, perhaps from this URL for my phone, you can construct the URL of
    the release info page for your phone:

    <https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-A566B/EUX/doc.html>

    "SM-A566B" is (part of) the 'Model name' on the 'About phone' page.

    For me, that says

    "Model name SM-A566B/DS"

    so apparently they only use the part before the slash. I don't know how
    to determine the correct 'EUX' part, perhaps you can just pretend your
    phone is also 'EUX'.

    If you can't get it to work, then post your 'Model name' line and I
    will try.

    N.B. I have found not (read: searched for) a page where you can search
    on phone model name. Just using <https://doc.samsungmobile.com/> gives 'Forbidden' (403).

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, January 20, 2026 23:34:24
    On 2026-01-20 20:08, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    ...


    Android 16 was *released* in June 2025.

    Samsung Galaxy A36 was released in March 2025 -- way to close to the
    Android 16 release date.

    Obviously phones sitting in boxes in storage aren't going to get
    updated. Takes time to deploy a new OS to in-stock phones.

    Yes, that's what I meant with 'out-of-date'. Not blaming anybody.

    BTW, release time - of the phone versus the Android version - is not
    what matters, but when *your* phone was *manufactured*. If your phone
    was manufactured a reasonable time after June 2025, it should have
    Android 16.

    That should be "designed". I have seen phones sold with Android versions
    one or two year old. Samsung.

    ...

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 13:19:22
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-01-20 20:08, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    ...


    Android 16 was *released* in June 2025.

    Samsung Galaxy A36 was released in March 2025 -- way to close to the
    Android 16 release date.

    Obviously phones sitting in boxes in storage aren't going to get
    updated. Takes time to deploy a new OS to in-stock phones.

    Yes, that's what I meant with 'out-of-date'. Not blaming anybody.

    BTW, release time - of the phone versus the Android version - is not what matters, but when *your* phone was *manufactured*. If your phone
    was manufactured a reasonable time after June 2025, it should have
    Android 16.

    That should be "designed". I have seen phones sold with Android versions
    one or two year old. Samsung.

    No, it should be "manufactured". It's quite possible that an already
    designed phone gets a new Android version during it's lifetime, i.e.
    multiple manufacturing batches, often at multiple manufacturing
    locations [1].

    Note that I said it *should* have Android 16. Should, not must, as, as
    you say, this preferred practice is not always followed.

    BTW, it's the same with Windows PCs. When you get them, the Windows
    version is often out-of-date, i.e. Windows 11 24H2 instead of 25H2 and
    missing a number of monthly updates.

    [1] We had two Samsung Galaxy A51 phones, which were bought at the same
    time, but manufactured at different locations/countries. Their firmware
    was slightly different.

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  • From AJL@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 08:43:50
    On 1/21/2026 6:19 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    BTW, it's the same with Windows PCs. When you get them, the Windows
    version is often out-of-date, i.e. Windows 11 24H2 instead of 25H2

    Yup. That's exactly what happened with this new W11 Sneeze brand laptop.
    Kinda scared me though since it took a few days. One of my past W11 toys refused to update and was stuck on 23H2. And another somehow lost its
    product key. My Android stuff has certainly given me less grief over the years...

    and missing a number of monthly updates.

    This thing seems to get security updates most every day. Just checked
    and got another one. Heck, I haven't had one on my phone in over a
    year... 8-O



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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 16:32:39
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
    On 1/21/2026 6:19 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    BTW, it's the same with Windows PCs. When you get them, the Windows
    version is often out-of-date, i.e. Windows 11 24H2 instead of 25H2

    Yup. That's exactly what happened with this new W11 Sneeze brand laptop. Kinda scared me though since it took a few days. One of my past W11 toys refused to update and was stuck on 23H2. And another somehow lost its
    product key. My Android stuff has certainly given me less grief over the years...

    and missing a number of monthly updates.

    This thing seems to get security updates most every day. Just checked
    and got another one. Heck, I haven't had one on my phone in over a
    year... 8-O

    I'm sure they are Microsoft Defender updates [1], i.e. anti-virus
    updates. Of course these are also about 'security' for your system, but
    they're not the normal monthly 'Security Update's. Anyway, your 'Update history' will tell you what was installed when.

    [1] 'Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus -
    KB2267602 (Version 1.443.NNN.0) - Current Channel (Broad)'

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  • From AJL@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 10:38:25
    On 1/21/2026 9:32 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

    This thing seems to get security updates most every day. Just
    checked and got another one. Heck, I haven't had one on my phone in
    over a year... 8-O

    I'm sure they are Microsoft Defender updates [1], i.e. anti-virus
    updates. Of course these are also about 'security' for your system,
    but they're not the normal monthly 'Security Update's. Anyway, your
    'Update history' will tell you what was installed when.

    [1] 'Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus - KB2267602 (Version 1.443.NNN.0) - Current Channel (Broad)'

    Guess we're in sync then. This is a cut and paste from Settings of the
    one that just arrived during my last post after I pushed the "Check for updates' button:

    "Security Intelligence Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus -
    KB2267602 (Version 1.443.781.0) - Current Channel (Broad)"

    Look familiar... :)


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