• Transfer to PC

    From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 18:04:09
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful
    stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those. The same files are offered on the phone itself when I
    try to attach it to an email.

    Am I missing something here? Or is it perhaps somewhere in the hierarchy
    of files displayed?

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud service. I know about those.

    Ed

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 18:49:58
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those.

    If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by the
    Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-private storage.

    App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but should be visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    However app-private storage is not in the 'normal' folders, but in \Android\data\<app-id>, or \Android\obb\<app-id> or
    \Android\media\<app-id>, where <app-id> is the app's 'id=...' name as
    listed in the app's entry on Google Play. For example the <app-id> of
    the Google Maps app is 'com.google.android.apps.maps' as shown
    on
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps>
    So for Google Maps the relevant (top-level) folder is
    Internal storage\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.maps

    There are apps which can show the <app-id> for installed apps, i.e.
    for your Notepad app, but normally, Android does not show that info.

    If you can not find the <app-id> or can not find the needed files in
    the \Android\... folders, you can check if the Notepad app can save,
    share, export the needed 'useful stuff' to 'normal' folders which you
    *can* access. Compare it to your e-mail client (Betterbird): Its
    'profile' folder is mostly useless gobbledegook, but you can save/export
    the messages to normal files.

    I hope this helps.

    The same files are offered on the phone itself when I
    try to attach it to an email.

    Am I missing something here? Or is it perhaps somewhere in the hierarchy
    of files displayed?

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud service. I know about those.

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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 19:18:31
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful
    stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those.

    If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by the Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-private storage.

    App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but should be visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    However app-private storage is not in the 'normal' folders, but in \Android\data\<app-id>, or \Android\obb\<app-id> or
    \Android\media\<app-id>, where <app-id> is the app's 'id=...' name as
    listed in the app's entry on Google Play. For example the <app-id> of
    the Google Maps app is 'com.google.android.apps.maps' as shown
    on <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps> So for Google Maps the relevant (top-level) folder is
    Internal storage\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.maps

    There are apps which can show the <app-id> for installed apps, i.e.
    for your Notepad app, but normally, Android does not show that info.

    If you can not find the <app-id> or can not find the needed files in
    the \Android\... folders, you can check if the Notepad app can save,
    share, export the needed 'useful stuff' to 'normal' folders which you
    *can* access. Compare it to your e-mail client (Betterbird): Its
    'profile' folder is mostly useless gobbledegook, but you can save/export
    the messages to normal files.

    I hope this helps.



    Thanks for that, Frank. I've searched the lot and I can't find it
    anywhere. Perhaps the app doesn't use .text format. I think it came with
    the Hawaii phone.
    BTW, nearly all the folders are empty; just a few .text files such as logs.

    ED

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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 19:21:41
    Andy Burns wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud
    service. I know about those.

    Do you know about non-cloud services, such as <https://localsend.org> ?



    All that app does is flash a message at me saying Tidy Pear #65, and
    when I click Receive nothing happens. I suppose I have to somehow send
    from the phone, but how?

    Ed

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  • From Stan Brown@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 11:51:39
    On Sat, 17 Jan 2026 19:21:41 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud
    service. I know about those.

    Do you know about non-cloud services, such as <https://localsend.org> ?



    All that app does is flash a message at me saying Tidy Pear #65, and
    when I click Receive nothing happens. I suppose I have to somehow send
    from the phone, but how?

    How else? Put the app on your phone. (It's in the Google Play Store.)
    The phone copy and PC copy know how to talk to each other.

    Your steps:
    1. On the sending device, press Send and identify the receiving
    device.

    2. On the receiving device, you should get a message that {sending
    device name} is sending you a file. _That's_ when you should tap or
    click Receive.



    --
    "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw

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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 21:46:00
    Stan Brown wrote:
    On Sat, 17 Jan 2026 19:21:41 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Ed Cryer wrote:

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud >>>> service. I know about those.

    Do you know about non-cloud services, such as <https://localsend.org> ?



    All that app does is flash a message at me saying Tidy Pear #65, and
    when I click Receive nothing happens. I suppose I have to somehow send
    from the phone, but how?

    How else? Put the app on your phone. (It's in the Google Play Store.)
    The phone copy and PC copy know how to talk to each other.

    Your steps:
    1. On the sending device, press Send and identify the receiving
    device.

    2. On the receiving device, you should get a message that {sending
    device name} is sending you a file. _That's_ when you should tap or
    click Receive.



    It doesn't work; possibly due to the ancient version of android on the
    phone.
    Two problems.

    I downloaded the app to phone, ran it, the two servers saw each other.
    I selected send, selected apps, got quite a list but no Notepad in it.
    So I tried with another file, got "waiting for response" on the phone,
    then "error" appeared on phone.

    Ed





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  • From Roger Mills@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, January 17, 2026 21:47:51
    On 17/01/2026 19:18, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful
    stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those.

    ÿÿ If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by the
    Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-private
    storage.

    ÿÿ App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but should be
    visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    ÿÿ However app-private storage is not in the 'normal' folders, but in
    \Android\data\<app-id>, or \Android\obb\<app-id> or
    \Android\media\<app-id>, where <app-id> is the app's 'id=...' name as
    listed in the app's entry on Google Play. For example the <app-id> of
    the Google Maps app is 'com.google.android.apps.maps' as shown
    on
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?
    id=com.google.android.apps.maps>
    So for Google Maps the relevant (top-level) folder is
    Internal storage\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.maps

    ÿÿ There are apps which can show the <app-id> for installed apps, i.e.
    for your Notepad app, but normally, Android does not show that info.

    ÿÿ If you can not find the <app-id> or can not find the needed files in
    the \Android\... folders, you can check if the Notepad app can save,
    share, export the needed 'useful stuff' to 'normal' folders which you
    *can* access. Compare it to your e-mail client (Betterbird): Its
    'profile' folder is mostly useless gobbledegook, but you can save/export
    the messages to normal files.

    ÿÿ I hope this helps.



    Thanks for that, Frank. I've searched the lot and I can't find it
    anywhere. Perhaps the app doesn't use .text format. I think it came with
    the Hawaii phone.
    BTW, nearly all the folders are empty; just a few .text files such as logs.

    ED

    If I understand you correctly, in your first post you say that it is
    possible to attach the desired files to a email. If all elso fails,
    can't you do that and email them to yourself? I accept that it will be a
    bit balls aching if there are a lot of them.

    For sending files from my Anroid devices to my PC I always use ES File
    Manager (which is no longer available in the Play Store because of some alleged security risk - so you have to sideload it). That sets up an FTP server on the Anroid device, and you need to install an FTP server on
    the Windows system to connect to it. That does everything I need, but if
    you can't see the files when using a USB connection, you may not be able
    to see them in that either!
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger

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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 09:32:35
    Roger Mills wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 19:18, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an >>>> app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful >>>> stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there >>>> are lots of those.

    ÿÿ If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by the
    Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-private >>> storage.

    ÿÿ App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but should be >>> visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    ÿÿ However app-private storage is not in the 'normal' folders, but in
    \Android\data\<app-id>, or \Android\obb\<app-id> or
    \Android\media\<app-id>, where <app-id> is the app's 'id=...' name as
    listed in the app's entry on Google Play. For example the <app-id> of
    the Google Maps app is 'com.google.android.apps.maps' as shown
    on
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?
    id=com.google.android.apps.maps>
    So for Google Maps the relevant (top-level) folder is
    Internal storage\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.maps

    ÿÿ There are apps which can show the <app-id> for installed apps, i.e.
    for your Notepad app, but normally, Android does not show that info.

    ÿÿ If you can not find the <app-id> or can not find the needed files in
    the \Android\... folders, you can check if the Notepad app can save,
    share, export the needed 'useful stuff' to 'normal' folders which you
    *can* access. Compare it to your e-mail client (Betterbird): Its
    'profile' folder is mostly useless gobbledegook, but you can save/export >>> the messages to normal files.

    ÿÿ I hope this helps.



    Thanks for that, Frank. I've searched the lot and I can't find it
    anywhere. Perhaps the app doesn't use .text format. I think it came
    with the Hawaii phone.
    BTW, nearly all the folders are empty; just a few .text files such as
    logs.

    ED

    If I understand you correctly, in your first post you say that it is possible to attach the desired files to a email. If all elso fails,
    can't you do that and email them to yourself? I accept that it will be a
    bit balls aching if there are a lot of them.

    For sending files from my Anroid devices to my PC I always use ES File Manager (which is no longer available in the Play Store because of some alleged security risk - so you have to sideload it). That sets up an FTP server on the Anroid device, and you need to install an FTP server on
    the Windows system to connect to it. That does everything I need, but if
    you can't see the files when using a USB connection, you may not be able
    to see them in that either!

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think
    Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    Ed


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  • From Roger Mills@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 10:54:31
    On 18/01/2026 09:32, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Roger Mills wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 19:18, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an >>>>> app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful >>>>> stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there >>>>> are lots of those.

    ÿÿ If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by the >>>> Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-
    private
    storage.

    ÿÿ App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but
    should be
    visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    ÿÿ However app-private storage is not in the 'normal' folders, but in
    \Android\data\<app-id>, or \Android\obb\<app-id> or
    \Android\media\<app-id>, where <app-id> is the app's 'id=...' name as
    listed in the app's entry on Google Play. For example the <app-id> of
    the Google Maps app is 'com.google.android.apps.maps' as shown
    on
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?
    id=com.google.android.apps.maps>
    So for Google Maps the relevant (top-level) folder is
    Internal storage\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.maps

    ÿÿ There are apps which can show the <app-id> for installed apps, i.e. >>>> for your Notepad app, but normally, Android does not show that info.

    ÿÿ If you can not find the <app-id> or can not find the needed files in >>>> the \Android\... folders, you can check if the Notepad app can save,
    share, export the needed 'useful stuff' to 'normal' folders which you
    *can* access. Compare it to your e-mail client (Betterbird): Its
    'profile' folder is mostly useless gobbledegook, but you can save/
    export
    the messages to normal files.

    ÿÿ I hope this helps.



    Thanks for that, Frank. I've searched the lot and I can't find it
    anywhere. Perhaps the app doesn't use .text format. I think it came
    with the Hawaii phone.
    BTW, nearly all the folders are empty; just a few .text files such as
    logs.

    ED

    If I understand you correctly, in your first post you say that it is
    possible to attach the desired files to a email. If all elso fails,
    can't you do that and email them to yourself? I accept that it will be
    a bit balls aching if there are a lot of them.

    For sending files from my Anroid devices to my PC I always use ES File
    Manager (which is no longer available in the Play Store because of
    some alleged security risk - so you have to sideload it). That sets up
    an FTP server on the Anroid device, and you need to install an FTP
    server on the Windows system to connect to it. That does everything I
    need, but if you can't see the files when using a USB connection, you
    may not be able to see them in that either!

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    Ed
    I asked ChatGPT where your data is likely to be, and this is what it said: https://chatgpt.com/share/696cbabf-ea28-8007-a40a-52ce78697b44

    Do you have details of the precise "Notebook" app which you're using?
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 11:24:34
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    I already mentioned to look for a sharing facility in the app, because
    that is how Android apps make content available to other apps.

    So I did another Google search on 'huawei android notepad app' and
    that came up with this document which indicates that there *is* a
    sharing facility in the Huawei Notepad app:

    'Manage Your Notepad' <https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/content/en-gb15867516/#:~:text=You%20can%20view%20saved%20notes,and%20share%20them%20as%20prompted.>

    See the 'Share Notepad Items' for details.

    So you should be able to share content to other apps like mail apps,
    etc..

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 13:22:31
    On 2026-01-17 22:47, Roger Mills wrote:
    If I understand you correctly, in your first post you say that it is possible to attach the desired files to a email. If all elso fails,
    can't you do that and email them to yourself? I accept that it will be a
    bit balls aching if there are a lot of them.

    I share files using email, but I do not send them, just use drafts.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From knuttle@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 07:53:45
    On 01/17/2026 1:04 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those. The same files are offered on the phone itself when I
    try to attach it to an email.

    Am I missing something here? Or is it perhaps somewhere in the hierarchy
    of files displayed?

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud service. I know about those.

    Ed
    Can you export them from the program?
    If so the easiest way to transfer data from the phone to the computer is
    use Bluetooth. With an android phone there is on special software. I
    never use apple products so I don't know about those systems.

    I routinely transfer pictures, pdf, and other files both way using the Bluetooth connection.

    Yes it is not as fast as transferring them by other means, BUT, by the
    time you find the other program and prepare the files to send; they are already on your computer using the Bluetooth exchange.

    You my also look at the functions of Notepad and see if they can be Bluetoothed directly from the program.

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  • From Arno Welzel@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 15:22:58
    Frank Slootweg, 2026-01-17 19:49:

    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful
    stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those.

    If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by the Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-private storage.

    App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but should be visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    App-private storage is usually also not accessible via MTP/PTP or direct
    file transfer via USB. Without having root access there are some other
    options, depending on what "Notepad" supports:

    - export the data to the internal shared storage

    - share the data with an app which allows to send it somewhere else (for example with Nextcloud you can upload shared data to your Nextcloud
    server, which can also be self-hosted within your own network).


    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From Arno Welzel@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 15:30:18
    Ed Cryer, 2026-01-17 19:04:

    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those. The same files are offered on the phone itself when I
    try to attach it to an email.

    Am I missing something here? Or is it perhaps somewhere in the hierarchy
    of files displayed?

    No, apps usually only use private storage which is not accessible for
    other apps at all for security reasons.

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud service. I know about those.

    On basic concept in Android is to share data with other apps using the
    "share" feature of the app. The target can by *any* other apps which
    registered itself as target for sharing actions.

    Cx File Explorer can also be used for that (<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cxinventor.file.explorer>).

    1) Open "Notepad"
    2) See if "Notepad" has a "share" feature - if yes, continue
    3) Install Cx File Explorer
    4) In "Notepad" use "share" to share a file with another app
    5) Select "Cx File Explorer" as target for the share action
    6) In "Cx File Explorer" save the shared data as file in the shared storage

    When exported everything as needed, you can then use USB to copy the
    files from the internal storage to your PC.

    Cx File Explorer also supports direct access to Windows shares, so if
    you create a shared folder on your PC you can access this with Cx File
    Explorer as well when the phone is connected to the same network via WiFi.



    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 15:53:18
    Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg, 2026-01-17 19:49:

    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful
    stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those.

    If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by the Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-private storage.

    App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but should be visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    App-private storage is usually also not accessible via MTP/PTP or direct
    file transfer via USB. Without having root access there are some other options, depending on what "Notepad" supports:

    Well, yes and no. If I use the Samsung 'My Files' app on my phone, the
    folder 'Internal storage\Android\data' is indeed not accessible and My
    Files says "Due to Android restrictions, the contents of this folder can
    only be shown on a computer.".

    And indeed, if I connect my phone via a MTP USB connection to my
    Windows laptop, I *can* see that folder and its subfolders, including
    the 'Internal storage\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.maps' Google
    Maps folder which I mentioned (and its contents).

    So I *can* access app-private storage via a MTP USB connection.

    OTOH, you are probably partly right, because some app-private
    Android\data folders seem to be empty, while I would expect there to be
    at least some data in them (and the corresponding obb and media folders
    are also empty or non-existing). I wonder what determines which
    app-private storage areas are accessible via MT/USB and which not.

    - export the data to the internal shared storage

    - share the data with an app which allows to send it somewhere else (for example with Nextcloud you can upload shared data to your Nextcloud
    server, which can also be self-hosted within your own network).

    Yes, as I mentioned, if Ed can not find or access the app-private
    storage of the Huawei Notepad app, save/share/export from the app are
    the next best alternatives.

    In the meantime in another response, I mentioned that according to
    Huawei their 'Notepad' their app indeed has Share functionality.

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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 15:59:22
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful
    stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those.

    If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by the Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-private storage.

    App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but should be visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    However app-private storage is not in the 'normal' folders, but in \Android\data\<app-id>, or \Android\obb\<app-id> or
    \Android\media\<app-id>, where <app-id> is the app's 'id=...' name as
    listed in the app's entry on Google Play. For example the <app-id> of
    the Google Maps app is 'com.google.android.apps.maps' as shown
    on <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps> So for Google Maps the relevant (top-level) folder is
    Internal storage\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.maps

    There are apps which can show the <app-id> for installed apps, i.e.
    for your Notepad app, but normally, Android does not show that info.

    If you can not find the <app-id> or can not find the needed files in
    the \Android\... folders, you can check if the Notepad app can save,
    share, export the needed 'useful stuff' to 'normal' folders which you
    *can* access. Compare it to your e-mail client (Betterbird): Its
    'profile' folder is mostly useless gobbledegook, but you can save/export
    the messages to normal files.

    I hope this helps.

    The same files are offered on the phone itself when I
    try to attach it to an email.

    Am I missing something here? Or is it perhaps somewhere in the hierarchy
    of files displayed?

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud
    service. I know about those.

    Thanks for that, Frank.
    Individual items in Notepad give you the Share option, but there are so
    many items in there; hundreds. The Notepad options are just To-Dos,
    Camera and New Note.
    I want the whole caboodle.

    Ed


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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 16:05:22
    Arno Welzel wrote:
    Ed Cryer, 2026-01-17 19:04:

    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful
    stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those. The same files are offered on the phone itself when I
    try to attach it to an email.

    Am I missing something here? Or is it perhaps somewhere in the hierarchy
    of files displayed?

    No, apps usually only use private storage which is not accessible for
    other apps at all for security reasons.

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud
    service. I know about those.

    On basic concept in Android is to share data with other apps using the "share" feature of the app. The target can by *any* other apps which registered itself as target for sharing actions.

    Cx File Explorer can also be used for that (<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cxinventor.file.explorer>).

    1) Open "Notepad"
    2) See if "Notepad" has a "share" feature - if yes, continue
    3) Install Cx File Explorer
    4) In "Notepad" use "share" to share a file with another app
    5) Select "Cx File Explorer" as target for the share action
    6) In "Cx File Explorer" save the shared data as file in the shared storage

    When exported everything as needed, you can then use USB to copy the
    files from the internal storage to your PC.

    Cx File Explorer also supports direct access to Windows shares, so if
    you create a shared folder on your PC you can access this with Cx File Explorer as well when the phone is connected to the same network via WiFi.




    That will only work for individual files. The app itself can export
    individual files. I want all of them, and there are lots and lots.

    Ed


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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 16:13:28
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think
    Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    I already mentioned to look for a sharing facility in the app, because that is how Android apps make content available to other apps.

    So I did another Google search on 'huawei android notepad app' and
    that came up with this document which indicates that there *is* a
    sharing facility in the Huawei Notepad app:

    'Manage Your Notepad' <https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/content/en-gb15867516/#:~:text=You%20can%20view%20saved%20notes,and%20share%20them%20as%20prompted.>

    See the 'Share Notepad Items' for details.

    So you should be able to share content to other apps like mail apps,
    etc..

    Many of those functions mentioned are not available in my android 9
    version of Notepad (9.1.7.326); certainly not the export many together,
    nor export as Document.

    Ed


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  • From knuttle@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 11:18:37
    On 01/18/2026 11:13 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think
    Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    ÿÿ I already mentioned to look for a sharing facility in the app, because
    that is how Android apps make content available to other apps.

    ÿÿ So I did another Google search on 'huawei android notepad app' and
    that came up with this document which indicates that there *is* a
    sharing facility in the Huawei Notepad app:

    'Manage Your Notepad'
    <https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/content/en-gb15867516/
    #:~:text=You%20can%20view%20saved%20notes,and%20share%20them%20as%20prompted.>

    ÿÿ See the 'Share Notepad Items' for details.

    ÿÿ So you should be able to share content to other apps like mail apps,
    etc..

    Many of those functions mentioned are not available in my android 9
    version of Notepad (9.1.7.326); certainly not the export many together,
    nor export as Document.

    Ed

    Can you download the most recent version to your phone and find export
    in that version?


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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 16:42:20
    knuttle wrote:
    On 01/18/2026 11:13 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think >>>> Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    ÿÿ I already mentioned to look for a sharing facility in the app,
    because
    that is how Android apps make content available to other apps.

    ÿÿ So I did another Google search on 'huawei android notepad app' and
    that came up with this document which indicates that there *is* a
    sharing facility in the Huawei Notepad app:

    'Manage Your Notepad'
    <https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/content/en-gb15867516/
    #:~:text=You%20can%20view%20saved%20notes,and%20share%20them%20as%20prompted.>

    ÿÿ See the 'Share Notepad Items' for details.

    ÿÿ So you should be able to share content to other apps like mail apps,
    etc..

    Many of those functions mentioned are not available in my android 9
    version of Notepad (9.1.7.326); certainly not the export many
    together, nor export as Document.

    Ed

    Can you download the most recent version to your phone and find export
    in that version?

    There are lots of Notepads from other people in the Play Store, but not
    the Huawei one. I think android 9 was a cut-off point in technical
    terms. My ISP is going shortly to cut it from their service.

    Ed



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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 16:51:06
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think
    Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    I already mentioned to look for a sharing facility in the app, because that is how Android apps make content available to other apps.

    So I did another Google search on 'huawei android notepad app' and
    that came up with this document which indicates that there *is* a
    sharing facility in the Huawei Notepad app:

    'Manage Your Notepad' <https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/content/en-gb15867516/#:~:text=You%20can%20view%20saved%20notes,and%20share%20them%20as%20prompted.>

    See the 'Share Notepad Items' for details.

    So you should be able to share content to other apps like mail apps, etc..

    Many of those functions mentioned are not available in my android 9
    version of Notepad (9.1.7.326); certainly not the export many together,
    nor export as Document.

    The function for multiple notes is not export, but share. Do you have
    the mentioned 'All notes' screen or not?

    If not, what about saving the APK of the Notepad version you have (so
    you can go back) and then updating it to a newer version?

    [And from your misplaced response:]

    Thanks for that, Frank.
    Individual items in Notepad give you the Share option, but there are so
    many items in there; hundreds. The Notepad options are just To-Dos,
    Camera and New Note.
    I want the whole caboodle.

    Did you find the
    [Internal storage\]Android\[data|obb|media]\<app-id_of_the_Notepad_app> folders?

    If not, why not?

    And do a Google search like "Huawei Android Notepad (9.1.7.326)" and
    read the 'AI Overview' and follow some of the references, for example
    those about how to get old/new APKs, documentation, etc.. IOW, at least
    try to do some of the work yourself, instead of depending on others who
    don't have/use the app, nor have the problem.

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  • From Roger Mills@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 20:20:52
    On 18/01/2026 10:54, Roger Mills wrote:
    On 18/01/2026 09:32, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Roger Mills wrote:
    On 17/01/2026 19:18, Ed Cryer wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It
    has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of
    useful
    stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it >>>>>> anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and
    there
    are lots of those.

    ÿÿ If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by >>>>> the
    Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-
    private
    storage.

    ÿÿ App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but
    should be
    visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    ÿÿ However app-private storage is not in the 'normal' folders, but in >>>>> \Android\data\<app-id>, or \Android\obb\<app-id> or
    \Android\media\<app-id>, where <app-id> is the app's 'id=...' name as >>>>> listed in the app's entry on Google Play. For example the <app-id> of >>>>> the Google Maps app is 'com.google.android.apps.maps' as shown
    on
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?
    id=com.google.android.apps.maps>
    So for Google Maps the relevant (top-level) folder is
    Internal storage\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.maps

    ÿÿ There are apps which can show the <app-id> for installed apps, i.e. >>>>> for your Notepad app, but normally, Android does not show that info. >>>>>
    ÿÿ If you can not find the <app-id> or can not find the needed
    files in
    the \Android\... folders, you can check if the Notepad app can save, >>>>> share, export the needed 'useful stuff' to 'normal' folders which you >>>>> *can* access. Compare it to your e-mail client (Betterbird): Its
    'profile' folder is mostly useless gobbledegook, but you can save/
    export
    the messages to normal files.

    ÿÿ I hope this helps.



    Thanks for that, Frank. I've searched the lot and I can't find it
    anywhere. Perhaps the app doesn't use .text format. I think it came
    with the Hawaii phone.
    BTW, nearly all the folders are empty; just a few .text files such
    as logs.

    ED

    If I understand you correctly, in your first post you say that it is
    possible to attach the desired files to a email. If all elso fails,
    can't you do that and email them to yourself? I accept that it will
    be a bit balls aching if there are a lot of them.

    For sending files from my Anroid devices to my PC I always use ES
    File Manager (which is no longer available in the Play Store because
    of some alleged security risk - so you have to sideload it). That
    sets up an FTP server on the Anroid device, and you need to install
    an FTP server on the Windows system to connect to it. That does
    everything I need, but if you can't see the files when using a USB
    connection, you may not be able to see them in that either!

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think
    Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    Ed
    I asked ChatGPT where your data is likely to be, and this is what it said: https://chatgpt.com/share/696cbabf-ea28-8007-a40a-52ce78697b44

    Do you have details of the precise "Notebook" app which you're using?

    I've had another go at ChatGPT, and it's come back with a lot more
    information - but it ain't going to be easy!

    See: https://chatgpt.com/share/696cbabf-ea28-8007-a40a-52ce78697b44

    I'm afraid that the first part is the same as before, but the new staff
    is after that. I couldn't find a way of separating it.
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger

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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 18, 2026 22:16:14
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think >>>> Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    I already mentioned to look for a sharing facility in the app, because >>> that is how Android apps make content available to other apps.

    So I did another Google search on 'huawei android notepad app' and
    that came up with this document which indicates that there *is* a
    sharing facility in the Huawei Notepad app:

    'Manage Your Notepad'
    <https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/content/en-gb15867516/#:~:text=You%20can%20view%20saved%20notes,and%20share%20them%20as%20prompted.>

    See the 'Share Notepad Items' for details.

    So you should be able to share content to other apps like mail apps, >>> etc..

    Many of those functions mentioned are not available in my android 9
    version of Notepad (9.1.7.326); certainly not the export many together,
    nor export as Document.

    The function for multiple notes is not export, but share. Do you have
    the mentioned 'All notes' screen or not?

    If not, what about saving the APK of the Notepad version you have (so
    you can go back) and then updating it to a newer version?

    [And from your misplaced response:]

    Thanks for that, Frank.
    Individual items in Notepad give you the Share option, but there are so
    many items in there; hundreds. The Notepad options are just To-Dos,
    Camera and New Note.
    I want the whole caboodle.

    Did you find the
    [Internal storage\]Android\[data|obb|media]\<app-id_of_the_Notepad_app> folders?

    If not, why not?

    And do a Google search like "Huawei Android Notepad (9.1.7.326)" and
    read the 'AI Overview' and follow some of the references, for example
    those about how to get old/new APKs, documentation, etc.. IOW, at least
    try to do some of the work yourself, instead of depending on others who
    don't have/use the app, nor have the problem.

    I have an "All Notes" screen, but no multi-share function with it.
    Own up, Frank. You know you love sharing your knowledge and competence
    in this group, and I'm giving you carte blanche here, where you're doing
    fine in my eyes. Thank you.

    Ed

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 15:42:59
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think >>>> Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    I already mentioned to look for a sharing facility in the app, because
    that is how Android apps make content available to other apps.

    So I did another Google search on 'huawei android notepad app' and >>> that came up with this document which indicates that there *is* a
    sharing facility in the Huawei Notepad app:

    'Manage Your Notepad'
    <https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/content/en-gb15867516/#:~:text=You%20can%20view%20saved%20notes,and%20share%20them%20as%20prompted.>

    See the 'Share Notepad Items' for details.

    So you should be able to share content to other apps like mail apps, >>> etc..

    Many of those functions mentioned are not available in my android 9
    version of Notepad (9.1.7.326); certainly not the export many together,
    nor export as Document.

    The function for multiple notes is not export, but share. Do you have the mentioned 'All notes' screen or not?

    If not, what about saving the APK of the Notepad version you have (so you can go back) and then updating it to a newer version?

    [And from your misplaced response:]

    Thanks for that, Frank.
    Individual items in Notepad give you the Share option, but there are so
    many items in there; hundreds. The Notepad options are just To-Dos,
    Camera and New Note.
    I want the whole caboodle.

    Did you find the
    [Internal storage\]Android\[data|obb|media]\<app-id_of_the_Notepad_app> folders?

    If not, why not?

    And do a Google search like "Huawei Android Notepad (9.1.7.326)" and read the 'AI Overview' and follow some of the references, for example
    those about how to get old/new APKs, documentation, etc.. IOW, at least
    try to do some of the work yourself, instead of depending on others who don't have/use the app, nor have the problem.

    I have an "All Notes" screen, but no multi-share function with it.
    Own up, Frank. You know you love sharing your knowledge and competence
    in this group, and I'm giving you carte blanche here, where you're doing fine in my eyes. Thank you.

    I just checked and am quite sure that, while I might have all kinds of problems, Huawei's Notepad app on a Huawei phone isn't one of them.

    Not answering my - rather essential - questionS (plural) (You know,
    these things with a '?' at the end.), isn't making things any better/
    easier to get *your* problem resolved.

    So unless/until you answer these questions and followup on
    suggestions. there's nothing more I can/want_to do.

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  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 17:04:37
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]

    As you say, the file in question isn't visible in either a USB
    connection nor an email attachment dialogue. I wonder why not. I think >>>>>> Huawei must have set it that way.
    Ah well, I'll have to live without it.

    Thanks for your reply and comments,

    I already mentioned to look for a sharing facility in the app, because
    that is how Android apps make content available to other apps.

    So I did another Google search on 'huawei android notepad app' and >>>>> that came up with this document which indicates that there *is* a
    sharing facility in the Huawei Notepad app:

    'Manage Your Notepad'
    <https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/support/content/en-gb15867516/#:~:text=You%20can%20view%20saved%20notes,and%20share%20them%20as%20prompted.>

    See the 'Share Notepad Items' for details.

    So you should be able to share content to other apps like mail apps, >>>>> etc..

    Many of those functions mentioned are not available in my android 9
    version of Notepad (9.1.7.326); certainly not the export many together, >>>> nor export as Document.

    The function for multiple notes is not export, but share. Do you have >>> the mentioned 'All notes' screen or not?

    If not, what about saving the APK of the Notepad version you have (so >>> you can go back) and then updating it to a newer version?

    [And from your misplaced response:]

    Thanks for that, Frank.
    Individual items in Notepad give you the Share option, but there are so >>>> many items in there; hundreds. The Notepad options are just To-Dos,
    Camera and New Note.
    I want the whole caboodle.

    Did you find the
    [Internal storage\]Android\[data|obb|media]\<app-id_of_the_Notepad_app>
    folders?

    If not, why not?

    And do a Google search like "Huawei Android Notepad (9.1.7.326)" and >>> read the 'AI Overview' and follow some of the references, for example
    those about how to get old/new APKs, documentation, etc.. IOW, at least
    try to do some of the work yourself, instead of depending on others who
    don't have/use the app, nor have the problem.

    I have an "All Notes" screen, but no multi-share function with it.
    Own up, Frank. You know you love sharing your knowledge and competence
    in this group, and I'm giving you carte blanche here, where you're doing
    fine in my eyes. Thank you.

    I just checked and am quite sure that, while I might have all kinds of problems, Huawei's Notepad app on a Huawei phone isn't one of them.

    Not answering my - rather essential - questionS (plural) (You know,
    these things with a '?' at the end.), isn't making things any better/
    easier to get *your* problem resolved.

    So unless/until you answer these questions and followup on
    suggestions. there's nothing more I can/want_to do.

    OK Frank. I was a little harsh with you. You've been helpful in the past
    and I've appreciated it.
    The thing here is that people are offering suggestions that I've tried.
    I used ChatGPT and Copilot before turning to you lot. And now people are
    just following the same routes that I went down on my own without
    success; they've just picked up the info from AI bots and offered them
    without having actually verified them.
    Everybody has their own individual approach to this problem, and they
    love displaying it in all its glory. But they've overwhelmed me with so
    much tech detail.
    I feel pleased that they're trying to help me, but frustrated at all the separate pathways. I don't have time or courage enough to try them all;
    I can so easily screw up my computer trying out things I don't understand.

    Ed




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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 18:53:45
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]
    I have an "All Notes" screen, but no multi-share function with it.
    Own up, Frank. You know you love sharing your knowledge and competence
    in this group, and I'm giving you carte blanche here, where you're doing >> fine in my eyes. Thank you.

    I just checked and am quite sure that, while I might have all kinds of problems, Huawei's Notepad app on a Huawei phone isn't one of them.

    Not answering my - rather essential - questionS (plural) (You know, these things with a '?' at the end.), isn't making things any better/ easier to get *your* problem resolved.

    So unless/until you answer these questions and followup on
    suggestions. there's nothing more I can/want_to do.

    OK Frank. I was a little harsh with you. You've been helpful in the past
    and I've appreciated it.

    If someone asks for help, (s)he shouldn't be harsh at all. Usenet is
    not a paid service subscription.

    The thing here is that people are offering suggestions that I've tried.

    I'm talking about my suggestions and your mostly non-response/non-action.

    I used ChatGPT and Copilot before turning to you lot. And now people are just following the same routes that I went down on my own without
    success; they've just picked up the info from AI bots and offered them without having actually verified them.

    I'll let the others value your judgement on their efforts.

    Everybody has their own individual approach to this problem, and they
    love displaying it in all its glory.

    There you go again, criticizing the people who are trying to help you.
    Yes, I sometimes (often? :-)) criticize other posters for what they
    write, but not those who are trying to help me.

    But they've overwhelmed me with so
    much tech detail.

    Fair nenough, but then just say so. Our crystal balls are in the shop.

    I feel pleased that they're trying to help me, but frustrated at all the separate pathways. I don't have time or courage enough to try them all;

    I don't have the impression that you've spent all that much time
    following up on suggestions, surely not on mine.

    You want all the notes, but don't seem to want to spend time on it. So
    just say so and end the thread, so we can stop wasting *our* time.

    I can so easily screw up my computer trying out things I don't understand.

    Most of the advice given has nothing to do with your computer, only
    the localsend stuff and that shouldn't screw up your computer, at worst
    it (localsend) just doesn't work.

    Bottom line: Just let us know whether you want to pursue this further
    or not.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Ed Cryer@3:633/10 to All on Monday, January 19, 2026 22:29:03
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    [...]
    I have an "All Notes" screen, but no multi-share function with it.
    Own up, Frank. You know you love sharing your knowledge and competence >>>> in this group, and I'm giving you carte blanche here, where you're doing >>>> fine in my eyes. Thank you.

    I just checked and am quite sure that, while I might have all kinds of >>> problems, Huawei's Notepad app on a Huawei phone isn't one of them.

    Not answering my - rather essential - questionS (plural) (You know,
    these things with a '?' at the end.), isn't making things any better/
    easier to get *your* problem resolved.

    So unless/until you answer these questions and followup on
    suggestions. there's nothing more I can/want_to do.

    OK Frank. I was a little harsh with you. You've been helpful in the past
    and I've appreciated it.

    If someone asks for help, (s)he shouldn't be harsh at all. Usenet is
    not a paid service subscription.

    The thing here is that people are offering suggestions that I've tried.

    I'm talking about my suggestions and your mostly non-response/non-action.

    I used ChatGPT and Copilot before turning to you lot. And now people are
    just following the same routes that I went down on my own without
    success; they've just picked up the info from AI bots and offered them
    without having actually verified them.

    I'll let the others value your judgement on their efforts.

    Everybody has their own individual approach to this problem, and they
    love displaying it in all its glory.

    There you go again, criticizing the people who are trying to help you. Yes, I sometimes (often? :-)) criticize other posters for what they
    write, but not those who are trying to help me.

    But they've overwhelmed me with so
    much tech detail.

    Fair nenough, but then just say so. Our crystal balls are in the shop.

    I feel pleased that they're trying to help me, but frustrated at all the
    separate pathways. I don't have time or courage enough to try them all;

    I don't have the impression that you've spent all that much time
    following up on suggestions, surely not on mine.

    You want all the notes, but don't seem to want to spend time on it. So just say so and end the thread, so we can stop wasting *our* time.

    I can so easily screw up my computer trying out things I don't understand.

    Most of the advice given has nothing to do with your computer, only
    the localsend stuff and that shouldn't screw up your computer, at worst
    it (localsend) just doesn't work.

    Bottom line: Just let us know whether you want to pursue this further
    or not.

    I'll use the sharing of individual notes function, which works.

    Ed

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From micky@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, January 21, 2026 20:28:45
    In comp.mobile.android, on 17 Jan 2026 18:49:58 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

    Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
    I have an old android phone, running under system version 9. It has an
    app in internal storage called "Notepad" which contains lots of useful
    stuff.
    I want that on my PC, but, when I connect it by USB I can't find it
    anywhere in the "internal storage" files that are displayed, and there
    are lots of those.

    If you mean you can't find the *files* which are used/created by the
    Notepad app, then it's probably that these files are kept in app-private >storage.

    App-private storage is normally not visible/accessible, but should be
    visible/accessible when the phone is (MTP) connected via USB to a
    Windows system.

    However app-private storage is not in the 'normal' folders, but in
    \Android\data\<app-id>, or \Android\obb\<app-id> or
    \Android\media\<app-id>, where <app-id> is the app's 'id=...' name as
    listed in the app's entry on Google Play. For example the <app-id> of
    the Google Maps app is 'com.google.android.apps.maps' as shown
    on ><https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.maps> >So for Google Maps the relevant (top-level) folder is
    Internal storage\Android\data\com.google.android.apps.maps

    There are apps which can show the <app-id> for installed apps, i.e.
    for your Notepad app, but normally, Android does not show that info.

    If you can not find the <app-id> or can not find the needed files in
    the \Android\... folders, you can check if the Notepad app can save,
    share, export the needed 'useful stuff' to 'normal' folders which you
    *can* access. Compare it to your e-mail client (Betterbird): Its
    'profile' folder is mostly useless gobbledegook, but you can save/export
    the messages to normal files.

    I hope this helps.


    It sure helps me. thanks. P&M



    The same files are offered on the phone itself when I
    try to attach it to an email.

    Am I missing something here? Or is it perhaps somewhere in the hierarchy
    of files displayed?

    Please don't tell me to use DropBox or Google Drive or any other Cloud
    service. I know about those.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Wendelin Uez@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, January 25, 2026 23:22:10
    That will only work for individual files. The app itself can export individual files. I want all of them, and there are lots and lots.


    No problem using Cx File Explorer, you can copy any collection of tagged folders or files from one device to another, f.e. from smartphone to PC, or vice versa, no problem. This app lets you access your Android folders as
    well as folders at your local network's PCs, USB drives, connected clouds,
    or router if these devices are made available in your smartphone. Using Wireguard VPN, f.e., it's easy to transfer any data files using mobile data even if you are out of WLAN. You only have to select source files or folders and then select target folder and start copying, that's all..

    p.s.: To be correct I'm talking about the German languaged "Cx Datei
    Explorer" supposing to be same as "Cx File Explorer".


    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.5
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)