• Re: Can't reach files on my smartphone anymore

    From Stan Brown@3:633/10 to All on Friday, December 05, 2025 11:42:10
    On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 08:33:17 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Hi all,

    I have a Samsung A53 with Android 16. I have a pc with Windows 10 Pro.
    When I connect a cable between the pc and my phone, I could see the
    phone on my pc and open it. I could see all the folders and pictures.
    Easy to download them.
    But my phone got an update. And now it has changed. When I connect the cable, I get a message on my phone: Tap the USB notification to use USB
    for transferring files.
    But that's all. Nothing to tap on. And though I can see the phone om ny
    pc, I can't open it. Can't download pictures.
    I also have a SSH server on my phone. I could contact that with a client
    on my pc, and had access to my phone. Now it also doesn't work anymore.

    What can I do to access my phone?
    Many thanks in advance for your answers.
    With best regards,
    Fokke Nauta

    I don't have a solution, but the LocalSend app may be a viable
    workaround for you, as it is or me. Navigate to the file you want to
    transfer to your PC, then long-press and select Share. If you have
    LocalSend running, it will be one of the share options. Of course you
    need to have the Windows version running at the same time too.

    https://localsend.org/

    --
    "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw

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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 10:30:35
    On 05/12/2025 19:15, s|b wrote:
    On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 15:35:00 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    On 05/12/2025 14:13, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    The "Tap the USB notification to use USB for transferring files"
    message" is on the main screen you're viewing. But note that it mentions >>> "the USB notification" and notifications are in the notifications area
    'behind' the screen you're viewing. So drag down from the top and the
    notification area will open and you'll see the 'USB...' notification
    which you can tap on to select the desired USB mode, in your case
    'Transferring files / Android Auto'.

    I did and it worked. I noticed that I'll have to do this every time I
    connect my pc to this phone.
    Thanks.

    I'm pretty sure you can go in Ontwikkelaarsopties and set this as the
    default action when you connect with USB.


    I haven't found Ontwikkelaarsopties.

    Fokke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 10:31:53
    On 05/12/2025 17:44, croy wrote:
    On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 08:33:17 +0100, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:

    Hi all,

    I have a Samsung A53 with Android 16. I have a pc with Windows 10 Pro.
    When I connect a cable between the pc and my phone, I could see the
    phone on my pc and open it. I could see all the folders and pictures.
    Easy to download them.
    But my phone got an update. And now it has changed. When I connect the
    cable, I get a message on my phone: Tap the USB notification to use USB
    for transferring files.
    But that's all. Nothing to tap on. And though I can see the phone om ny
    pc, I can't open it. Can't download pictures.
    I also have a SSH server on my phone. I could contact that with a client
    on my pc, and had access to my phone. Now it also doesn't work anymore.

    What can I do to access my phone?
    Many thanks in advance for your answers.
    With best regards,
    Fokke Nauta

    I noticed the same on my Samsung Android 16 phone. It used to be that all
    I had to do was attach the cable and log into the phone, and I could then transfer files. But a recent update changed that, and now I have to do
    what Mr. Slootweg suggested each time I want to transfer files. I'm
    assuming that a security hole was plugged, and if that is correct, I like
    it. It had me fumbling for a bit, but now I just do the required steps and move on.


    So I'm not the only one.
    And I move on this way as well.

    Fokke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 10:32:43
    On 05/12/2025 20:42, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Fri, 5 Dec 2025 08:33:17 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Hi all,

    I have a Samsung A53 with Android 16. I have a pc with Windows 10 Pro.
    When I connect a cable between the pc and my phone, I could see the
    phone on my pc and open it. I could see all the folders and pictures.
    Easy to download them.
    But my phone got an update. And now it has changed. When I connect the
    cable, I get a message on my phone: Tap the USB notification to use USB
    for transferring files.
    But that's all. Nothing to tap on. And though I can see the phone om ny
    pc, I can't open it. Can't download pictures.
    I also have a SSH server on my phone. I could contact that with a client
    on my pc, and had access to my phone. Now it also doesn't work anymore.

    What can I do to access my phone?
    Many thanks in advance for your answers.
    With best regards,
    Fokke Nauta

    I don't have a solution, but the LocalSend app may be a viable
    workaround for you, as it is or me. Navigate to the file you want to
    transfer to your PC, then long-press and select Share. If you have
    LocalSend running, it will be one of the share options. Of course you
    need to have the Windows version running at the same time too.

    https://localsend.org/


    I tried LocalSend but it didn't work for me.

    Fokke

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  • From Siard@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 11:58:11
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 05/12/2025 19:15, s|b wrote:
    I'm pretty sure you can go in Ontwikkelaarsopties and set this as the default action when you connect with USB.

    I haven't found Ontwikkelaarsopties.

    For someone whose native language is the same as s|b's, it only takes some imagination to understand what he means: Developer options, of course.

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  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 14:46:57
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:58:11 +0100, Siard wrote:

    For someone whose native language is the same as s|b's, it only takes some imagination to understand what he means: Developer options, of course.

    Check Fokke's From header; his mail is *.nl. So I think it's safe to
    assume his native tongue is Dutch (like mine). The fact that he can't
    find it is probably caused by the fact the Samsung thinks it has to
    reinvent apps and settings.

    --
    s|b

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  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 14:49:18
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 10:30:35 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    I haven't found Ontwikkelaarsopties.

    You can open Instellingen and then type something to search for. Have
    you done this or did you go through all the settings yourself?

    It should be under 'Instellingen > Systeem'.

    --
    s|b

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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 15:26:51
    On 06/12/2025 14:49, s|b wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 10:30:35 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    I haven't found Ontwikkelaarsopties.

    You can open Instellingen and then type something to search for. Have
    you done this or did you go through all the settings yourself?

    It should be under 'Instellingen > Systeem'.


    Under Instellingen there is no Systeem or Ontwikkelaarsoptie.

    Fokke


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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 15:27:40
    On 06/12/2025 14:46, s|b wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:58:11 +0100, Siard wrote:

    For someone whose native language is the same as s|b's, it only takes some >> imagination to understand what he means: Developer options, of course.

    Check Fokke's From header; his mail is *.nl. So I think it's safe to
    assume his native tongue is Dutch (like mine). The fact that he can't
    find it is probably caused by the fact the Samsung thinks it has to
    reinvent apps and settings.


    I guess you're right.

    Fokke

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  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 16:17:19
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 15:26:51 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Under Instellingen there is no Systeem or Ontwikkelaarsoptie.

    <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-turn-on-the-developer-options-menu-on-my-samsung-galaxy-device/>

    --
    s|b

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 16:47:30
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:58:11 +0100, Siard wrote:

    For someone whose native language is the same as s|b's, it only takes some imagination to understand what he means: Developer options, of course.

    Check Fokke's From header; his mail is *.nl. So I think it's safe to
    assume his native tongue is Dutch (like mine). The fact that he can't
    find it is probably caused by the fact the Samsung thinks it has to
    reinvent apps and settings.

    In order to 'find' the 'Developer options', they have to be *enabled*
    first:

    For Fokke (and other Samsung users):

    Settings -> About phone -> Software information -> tap the 'Build
    number' seven times -> enter your PIN, etc. -> Presto! The 'Developer
    options' will now be at the bottom of your main Settings menu.

    Now you'll find 'Default USB configuration' in the Developer options
    menu. Just search (use the magnifying glass icon at the right-top) for
    the setting, because it's a very long list to browse through.

    And, as 's|b' mentioned, you can set the 'Default USB configuration'
    to 'Transferring files / Android Auto'.

    "Elementary, dear Watson!" :-)

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 16:49:26
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-12-05 16:44, croy wrote:

    I'm
    assuming that a security hole was plugged, and if that is correct, I like it.
    I fail to see how this could have plugged any security hole! Before and now, in both cases you have to have possession of the phone and the matching fingerprint/PIN/ugly mug/whatever to log into it, so the new rigmarole is not discernibly more secure than the old, it's just a
    ritual bloody nuisance.

    Exactly! If someone has your phone in their hands then all files are accessible, the only possible protection is encryption.

    If the phone is (screen) locked, you can't do anything, that's the
    whole point of locking a phone.

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  • From Chris Green@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 17:43:29
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-12-05 16:44, croy wrote:

    I'm
    assuming that a security hole was plugged, and if that is correct, I like
    it.
    I fail to see how this could have plugged any security hole! Before and now, in both cases you have to have possession of the phone and the matching fingerprint/PIN/ugly mug/whatever to log into it, so the new rigmarole is not discernibly more secure than the old, it's just a ritual bloody nuisance.

    Exactly! If someone has your phone in their hands then all files are accessible, the only possible protection is encryption.

    If the phone is (screen) locked, you can't do anything, that's the
    whole point of locking a phone.

    If it's in my hands I can simply take it apart and access the memory.
    It's only the same as accessing a disk drive on an 'ordinary' computer.

    --
    Chris Green
    ú

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  • From Chris Green@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 18:50:28
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris Green wrote:

    If it's in my hands I can simply take it apart and access the memory.
    It's only the same as accessing a disk drive on an 'ordinary' computer.
    If the eMMC/UFS chip has internal encryption?

    Is that common? If so then you're right, although files stored on an
    SD card probably won't be.

    --
    Chris Green
    ú

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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 20:41:46
    On 06/12/2025 17:47, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:58:11 +0100, Siard wrote:

    For someone whose native language is the same as s|b's, it only takes some >>> imagination to understand what he means: Developer options, of course.

    Check Fokke's From header; his mail is *.nl. So I think it's safe to
    assume his native tongue is Dutch (like mine). The fact that he can't
    find it is probably caused by the fact the Samsung thinks it has to
    reinvent apps and settings.

    In order to 'find' the 'Developer options', they have to be *enabled* first:

    For Fokke (and other Samsung users):

    Settings -> About phone -> Software information -> tap the 'Build
    number' seven times -> enter your PIN, etc. -> Presto! The 'Developer options' will now be at the bottom of your main Settings menu.

    Now you'll find 'Default USB configuration' in the Developer options
    menu. Just search (use the magnifying glass icon at the right-top) for
    the setting, because it's a very long list to browse through.

    And, as 's|b' mentioned, you can set the 'Default USB configuration'
    to 'Transferring files / Android Auto'.

    "Elementary, dear Watson!" :-)

    Hi Frank,

    I did it and it worked! Fantastic! Haven't got a clue as to how you know
    this, but I learned this again.
    Thanks very much.

    Fokke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 20:43:30
    On 06/12/2025 16:17, s|b wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 15:26:51 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Under Instellingen there is no Systeem or Ontwikkelaarsoptie.

    <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-turn-on-the-developer-options-menu-on-my-samsung-galaxy-device/>


    Frank Slootweg already adviced me to do this.
    And it worked!

    Fokke

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 20:06:58
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-12-05 16:44, croy wrote:

    I'm
    assuming that a security hole was plugged, and if that is
    correct, I like it.
    I fail to see how this could have plugged any security hole!
    Before and now, in both cases you have to have possession of the
    phone and the matching fingerprint/PIN/ugly mug/whatever to log
    into it, so the new rigmarole is not discernibly more secure
    than the old, it's just a ritual bloody nuisance.

    Exactly! If someone has your phone in their hands then all files are accessible, the only possible protection is encryption.

    If the phone is (screen) locked, you can't do anything, that's the
    whole point of locking a phone.

    If it's in my hands I can simply take it apart and access the memory.

    That is *theoretically* possible, but in practice you need the
    (hardware) tools to either read the memory or remove it (unsoldering?)
    and put it in a specialized device to read it. No simple task at all.

    It's only the same as accessing a disk drive on an 'ordinary' computer.

    No way! A disk in a computer and 'flash' memory soldered in a phone
    are completely different!

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 20:14:18
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Chris Green wrote:

    If it's in my hands I can simply take it apart and access the memory. It's only the same as accessing a disk drive on an 'ordinary' computer.
    If the eMMC/UFS chip has internal encryption?

    Is that common? If so then you're right, although files stored on an
    SD card probably won't be.

    Whose talking about "an SD card"? Most newer devices can't even have
    one. And *if* a device has one, 1) it probably is an extension of
    Internal Storage and hard to impossible to recover when removed or 2) if external storage, should not contain sensitive data.

    Trust us, modern smartphones are quite safe, if properly (screen)
    locked, including automatic lock by theft-protection.

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  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 21:18:52
    On 6 Dec 2025 16:47:30 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    And, as 's|b' mentioned, you can set the 'Default USB configuration'
    to 'Transferring files / Android Auto'.

    So I remembered correctly! (-:

    --
    s|b

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 20:20:32
    Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
    [...]
    Hi Frank,

    I did it and it worked! Fantastic! Haven't got a clue as to how you know this, but I learned this again.

    I've used 'Developer options' in the past (don't remember what for),
    but not on my current phone (Samsung Galaxy A56), so I had to look it up
    again. All that was needed was a simple Google search on "samsung
    developer options". Google's 'AI Overview' gave the answer. So, as I
    said "Elementary, dear Watson!. :-)

    Thanks very much.

    You're welcome.

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  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 21:21:45
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 20:43:30 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    On 06/12/2025 16:17, s|b wrote:

    <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-turn-on-the-developer-options-menu-on-my-samsung-galaxy-device/>


    Frank Slootweg already adviced me to do this.
    And it worked!

    Yeah, after I posted this link he finished the job. Glad it's working
    for you.

    --
    s|b

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, December 06, 2025 20:52:32
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 20:43:30 +0100, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    On 06/12/2025 16:17, s|b wrote:

    <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-turn-on-the-developer-options-menu-on-my-samsung-galaxy-device/>


    Frank Slootweg already adviced me to do this.
    And it worked!

    Yeah, after I posted this link he finished the job. Glad it's working
    for you.

    I either missed your link or your post didn't 'register' in my brain.

    As I mentioned to Fokke, I just did a Google search on 'samsung
    developer options" and the Google 'AI Overview' gave the answer and was
    much shorter (only 4 lines) than the Samsung article.

    So it was a combined effort, you pointed to the Developer options and
    the likelyhood of a USB setting in them and I finished the job with the specifics of the latter (and a duplication of the former),

    Good on us! :-)

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  • From Java Jive@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, December 07, 2025 09:54:22
    On 2025-12-06 16:47, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    In order to 'find' the 'Developer options', they have to be *enabled* first:


    Yes, done already.

    And, as 's|b' mentioned, you can set the 'Default USB configuration'
    to 'Transferring files / Android Auto'.
    Now done also ... Somehow I missed 's|b's explanation, so thanks to both
    of you.

    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website: www.macfh.co.uk


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  • From R.Wieser@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, December 07, 2025 12:26:14
    Java Jive,

    I fail to see how this could have plugged any security hole!

    When a phones battery is going low there are people who do not see any problems with plugging their USB cable into an available USB port somewhere (at work, while traveling). Some companies even have special "charger
    ports" for that.

    Now imagine you have data-transfer enabled, and some black hat is just
    waiting for you to plug your smartphone into their puter / manipulated
    charger port.

    This "confirm data exchange" step has been added *to protect you* from that.

    Yes, its a nuissance when you only plug your phone into your own 'puter
    and/or only charge it with your own known-to-be-good wall-wart. For all other cases - for the majority of users - they get warned about an
    attempted malicious(?) access to their phone. Which is a good thing.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser



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  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, December 07, 2025 14:49:37
    On 6 Dec 2025 20:52:32 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    I either missed your link or your post didn't 'register' in my brain.

    As I mentioned to Fokke, I just did a Google search on 'samsung
    developer options" and the Google 'AI Overview' gave the answer and was
    much shorter (only 4 lines) than the Samsung article.

    Should have done that myself. I just started looking for the manual on
    the support pages of samsung.com.

    Not a big fan of Samsug BTW, I hate how they change everything to
    Samsung apps. In Belgium we use the Itsme app a lot for access to
    government sites and Samsung just breaks this, because they have their
    own browser 'Samsung Internet'. When people come and ask me I have to
    change the browser to Google Chrome.

    So it was a combined effort, you pointed to the Developer options and
    the likelyhood of a USB setting in them and I finished the job with the specifics of the latter (and a duplication of the former),

    Good on us! :-)

    Yay! (-:

    --
    s|b

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, December 07, 2025 21:24:35
    On 2025-12-06 20:41, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2025 17:47, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:58:11 +0100, Siard wrote:

    For someone whose native language is the same as s|b's, it only
    takes some
    imagination to understand what he means: Developer options, of course.

    Check Fokke's From header; his mail is *.nl. So I think it's safe to
    assume his native tongue is Dutch (like mine). The fact that he can't
    find it is probably caused by the fact the Samsung thinks it has to
    reinvent apps and settings.

    ÿÿ In order to 'find' the 'Developer options', they have to be *enabled*
    first:

    For Fokke (and other Samsung users):

    ÿÿ Settings -> About phone -> Software information -> tap the 'Build
    number' seven times -> enter your PIN, etc. -> Presto! The 'Developer
    options' will now be at the bottom of your main Settings menu.

    ÿÿ Now you'll find 'Default USB configuration' in the Developer options
    menu. Just search (use the magnifying glass icon at the right-top) for
    the setting, because it's a very long list to browse through.

    ÿÿ And, as 's|b' mentioned, you can set the 'Default USB configuration'
    to 'Transferring files / Android Auto'.

    ÿÿ "Elementary, dear Watson!" :-)

    Hi Frank,

    I did it and it worked! Fantastic! Haven't got a clue as to how you know this, but I learned this again.
    Thanks very much.

    What was it set to?

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, December 07, 2025 21:33:27
    On 2025-12-07 12:26, R.Wieser wrote:
    Java Jive,

    I fail to see how this could have plugged any security hole!

    When a phones battery is going low there are people who do not see any problems with plugging their USB cable into an available USB port somewhere (at work, while traveling). Some companies even have special "charger
    ports" for that.

    Now imagine you have data-transfer enabled, and some black hat is just waiting for you to plug your smartphone into their puter / manipulated charger port.

    This "confirm data exchange" step has been added *to protect you* from that.

    Yes, its a nuissance when you only plug your phone into your own 'puter and/or only charge it with your own known-to-be-good wall-wart. For all other cases - for the majority of users - they get warned about an
    attempted malicious(?) access to their phone. Which is a good thing.

    Reminds me.

    To connect my phone to Android Auto in my car, the thing has first to
    connect via Bluetooth, and I have to put my fingerprint to unlock my phone.

    Recently I took my car to be serviced, and I got a complimentary
    substitution car. Same model as mine, but more modern. I just plugged it
    and it connected, no questions. I was a bit surprised. I thought my
    phone should have the control to connect or not.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From R.Wieser@3:633/10 to All on Monday, December 08, 2025 08:53:57
    Andy,

    A few months ago I bought an AAwireless dongle, so now that plugs into the car via USB, and effectively converts the car to having wireless android auto, so when the phone comes within range of the dongle it connects,

    Some years ago I got called by a friend, but neither of us could really hear the other. Turns out he just left his car and was walking away, but his phone was still connected to the cars speakers and microphone.

    Another story I read was where the neigbours of a guy had to call the police because of his sound system blaring at a high level. Turns out the guy had left and, while walking away, tried to play some music on his phone. When
    he could not hear anything he kept upping the volume. As it turned out his phone was still connected to his home sound system (until out of reach), and he was upping its volume, not his phones.

    iow, bluetooth might be handy, but have it automatically connect can also
    work against you.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser



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  • From Chris@3:633/10 to All on Monday, December 08, 2025 08:20:26
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    To connect my phone to Android Auto in my car, the thing has first to
    connect via Bluetooth, and I have to put my fingerprint to unlock my phone.

    My car has wired android auto, apart from plugging in the USB, never had
    to unlock phone to use it.

    Recently I took my car to be serviced, and I got a complimentary
    substitution car. Same model as mine, but more modern.

    A few months ago I bought an AAwireless dongle, so now that plugs into
    the car via USB, and effectively converts the car to having wireless
    android auto, so when the phone comes within range of the dongle it connects, usually by the time I've unlocked the car you can see the
    status LED change colour and by the time I've sat in, put on my
    seatbelt, android auto with map open is running ... brilliant device.

    This is what annoys me about bluetooth: there's no way to control prioritisation. What you describe is exactly what happens when I'm in the garden (or even in the house sometimes) listening to music or podcasts over
    my bt headphones and then my wife drives past in the car. My audio suddenly cuts out and I have to manually re-set my audio output. If there's an
    active bt audio connection, it should never supersede it with another.

    and it connected, no questions. I was a bit surprised. I thought my
    phone should have the control to connect or not.

    Yes, pretty sure I had a one-time pairing to go through the first time.






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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Monday, December 08, 2025 20:31:12
    On 07/12/2025 21:24, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-12-06 20:41, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2025 17:47, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:58:11 +0100, Siard wrote:

    For someone whose native language is the same as s|b's, it only
    takes some
    imagination to understand what he means: Developer options, of course. >>>>
    Check Fokke's From header; his mail is *.nl. So I think it's safe to
    assume his native tongue is Dutch (like mine). The fact that he can't
    find it is probably caused by the fact the Samsung thinks it has to
    reinvent apps and settings.

    ÿÿ In order to 'find' the 'Developer options', they have to be *enabled* >>> first:

    For Fokke (and other Samsung users):

    ÿÿ Settings -> About phone -> Software information -> tap the 'Build
    number' seven times -> enter your PIN, etc. -> Presto! The 'Developer
    options' will now be at the bottom of your main Settings menu.

    ÿÿ Now you'll find 'Default USB configuration' in the Developer options
    menu. Just search (use the magnifying glass icon at the right-top) for
    the setting, because it's a very long list to browse through.

    ÿÿ And, as 's|b' mentioned, you can set the 'Default USB configuration'
    to 'Transferring files / Android Auto'.

    ÿÿ "Elementary, dear Watson!" :-)

    Hi Frank,

    I did it and it worked! Fantastic! Haven't got a clue as to how you
    know this, but I learned this again.
    Thanks very much.

    What was it set to?


    Look at the message of Frank Slootweg.

    Fokke

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, December 09, 2025 16:12:58
    On 2025-12-08 20:31, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 07/12/2025 21:24, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-12-06 20:41, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2025 17:47, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 6 Dec 2025 11:58:11 +0100, Siard wrote:

    For someone whose native language is the same as s|b's, it only
    takes some
    imagination to understand what he means: Developer options, of
    course.

    Check Fokke's From header; his mail is *.nl. So I think it's safe to >>>>> assume his native tongue is Dutch (like mine). The fact that he can't >>>>> find it is probably caused by the fact the Samsung thinks it has to
    reinvent apps and settings.

    ÿÿ In order to 'find' the 'Developer options', they have to be
    *enabled*
    first:

    For Fokke (and other Samsung users):

    ÿÿ Settings -> About phone -> Software information -> tap the 'Build
    number' seven times -> enter your PIN, etc. -> Presto! The 'Developer
    options' will now be at the bottom of your main Settings menu.

    ÿÿ Now you'll find 'Default USB configuration' in the Developer options >>>> menu. Just search (use the magnifying glass icon at the right-top) for >>>> the setting, because it's a very long list to browse through.

    ÿÿ And, as 's|b' mentioned, you can set the 'Default USB configuration' >>>> to 'Transferring files / Android Auto'.

    ÿÿ "Elementary, dear Watson!" :-)

    Hi Frank,

    I did it and it worked! Fantastic! Haven't got a clue as to how you
    know this, but I learned this again.
    Thanks very much.

    What was it set to?


    Look at the message of Frank Slootweg.

    I did, no answer found there.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, December 09, 2025 16:35:53
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-12-08 20:31, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 07/12/2025 21:24, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-12-06 20:41, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    [...]
    Hi Frank,

    I did it and it worked! Fantastic! Haven't got a clue as to how you
    know this, but I learned this again.
    Thanks very much.

    What was it set to?

    Look at the message of Frank Slootweg.

    I did, no answer found there.

    I think you're asking: What was the 'Default USB configuration'
    setting in 'Developer options' set to? If so, it was not set to
    anything, i.e. all the five choices have an empty circle in front of
    them. Only if you tap on one of the choices, the choice is selected and
    the empty grey circle changes to a blue circle with a blue dot in the
    white part.

    So apparently there is also a system default which is used if the
    'Default USB configuration' is not set. That system default is 'Charging
    phone only', i.e. the safe default.

    BUT, if you select one of the 'Default USB configuration', you can not
    get back to five unselected choices, always one of them will be
    selected, even if yoy turn off 'Developer options' and later turn it
    back on. So for answering your question, I (or you? :-)) have ruined my
    phone! :-)

    N.B. All of this on my Samsung Galaxy A56 (Android 16) phone.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, December 10, 2025 00:05:59
    On 2025-12-09 17:35, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-12-08 20:31, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 07/12/2025 21:24, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-12-06 20:41, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    [...]
    Hi Frank,

    I did it and it worked! Fantastic! Haven't got a clue as to how you
    know this, but I learned this again.
    Thanks very much.

    What was it set to?

    Look at the message of Frank Slootweg.

    I did, no answer found there.

    I think you're asking: What was the 'Default USB configuration'
    setting in 'Developer options' set to?

    Rather, what did his phone say that setting was set to when he opened
    it, before changing it to 'Transferring files / Android Auto'

    If so, it was not set to
    anything, i.e. all the five choices have an empty circle in front of
    them. Only if you tap on one of the choices, the choice is selected and
    the empty grey circle changes to a blue circle with a blue dot in the
    white part.

    Ok, sounds reasonable.


    So apparently there is also a system default which is used if the
    'Default USB configuration' is not set. That system default is 'Charging phone only', i.e. the safe default.

    I think mine is "asking", and after a small time it settles on "charging".


    BUT, if you select one of the 'Default USB configuration', you can not
    get back to five unselected choices, always one of them will be
    selected, even if yoy turn off 'Developer options' and later turn it
    back on. So for answering your question, I (or you? :-)) have ruined my phone! :-)

    {chuckle} :-}

    No, I did not try on my phone, it is working ok.


    N.B. All of this on my Samsung Galaxy A56 (Android 16) phone.


    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES??, EU??;

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.2
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Wednesday, December 10, 2025 09:15:46
    On 08/12/2025 03:44, Marian wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    I tried LocalSend but it didn't work for me.

    From: Marion <marion@facts.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
    Subject: LocalSend tutorial for bidirectional file transfer between
    Android & every other OS (including iOS)
    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 10:00:00 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <vt07n0$287g$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
    User-Agent: Alan Baker insisted this line can not be changed

    It works OK now, so I don't need LocalSend.

    Fpkke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, December 11, 2025 09:28:18
    On 10/12/2025 22:26, Marian wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    It works OK now, so I don't need LocalSend.

    Thanks. I agree. LocalSend is mostly for when we're dealing with iOS.

    Ah. We don't have any Apple products.

    Fokke

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  • From Jim Jackson@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, December 11, 2025 15:46:40
    On 2025-12-11, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
    On 10/12/2025 22:26, Marian wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    It works OK now, so I don't need LocalSend.

    Thanks. I agree. LocalSend is mostly for when we're dealing with iOS.

    Ah. We don't have any Apple products.


    Oh, I do - there's some apple vinegar, some cider, an apple pie in the
    fridge, and cooking apples in a bucket by the door. But I don't see how
    I can exchange files with them!

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, December 11, 2025 16:17:35
    Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
    On 10/12/2025 22:26, Marian wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    It works OK now, so I don't need LocalSend.

    Thanks. I agree. LocalSend is mostly for when we're dealing with iOS.

    Ah. We don't have any Apple products.

    Another alternative is Quick Share.

    As it was developed by Samsung, Quick Share is already on your Samsung
    phone in the sharing part of any app which can share items/files.

    For the Windows side, see:

    'Share files between Android & Windows with Quick Share' <https://support.google.com/android/answer/13801258>

    I use Quick Share when transferring only a few files or folders
    between phone and computer (otherwise I use the USB-cable method). And I
    use it to transfer files/folders between phones.

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    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, December 11, 2025 20:37:30
    On 11/12/2025 16:46, Jim Jackson wrote:
    On 2025-12-11, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
    On 10/12/2025 22:26, Marian wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    It works OK now, so I don't need LocalSend.

    Thanks. I agree. LocalSend is mostly for when we're dealing with iOS.

    Ah. We don't have any Apple products.


    Oh, I do - there's some apple vinegar, some cider, an apple pie in the fridge, and cooking apples in a bucket by the door. But I don't see how
    I can exchange files with them!

    We don't even have those apple products in house! But perhaps changing
    bio files from an organic system?

    Fokke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, December 11, 2025 20:40:58
    On 11/12/2025 17:17, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
    On 10/12/2025 22:26, Marian wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    It works OK now, so I don't need LocalSend.

    Thanks. I agree. LocalSend is mostly for when we're dealing with iOS.

    Ah. We don't have any Apple products.

    Another alternative is Quick Share.

    As it was developed by Samsung, Quick Share is already on your Samsung phone in the sharing part of any app which can share items/files.

    For the Windows side, see:

    'Share files between Android & Windows with Quick Share' <https://support.google.com/android/answer/13801258>

    I use Quick Share when transferring only a few files or folders
    between phone and computer (otherwise I use the USB-cable method). And I
    use it to transfer files/folders between phones.

    That's a good idea, Frank. I'll have a look at it.

    Fokke


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  • From Jim Jackson@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, December 11, 2025 19:48:59
    On 2025-12-11, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
    On 11/12/2025 16:46, Jim Jackson wrote:
    On 2025-12-11, Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
    On 10/12/2025 22:26, Marian wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    It works OK now, so I don't need LocalSend.

    Thanks. I agree. LocalSend is mostly for when we're dealing with iOS.

    Ah. We don't have any Apple products.


    Oh, I do - there's some apple vinegar, some cider, an apple pie in the
    fridge, and cooking apples in a bucket by the door. But I don't see how
    I can exchange files with them!

    We don't even have those apple products in house! But perhaps changing
    bio files from an organic system?

    touche!

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