• If I Buy Something, Do I Own It? (Yet Again)

    From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, September 13, 2026 00:40:05
    There is a class-action lawsuit against Sony claiming that it doesn?t
    make it clear, when clicking buttons marked ?Buy? and ?Purchase? while
    paying for PlayStation games, that in fact the customer is buying
    nothing resembling a property right, just a limited, revocable licence
    to play the game.

    Sony wants the suit thrown out on the grounds that ?reasonable?
    customers would not be misled into believing that they own what they
    buy.

    To counter that, a group called the Consumer Rights Wiki has compiled
    a list of instances, up to 44 long and counting, where Sony does quite
    clearly say that buyers ?own? what they buy.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/playstation/consumer-rights-wiki-documents-at-least-44-instances-in-which-sony-says-you-own-your-games-project-is-direct-assault-on-sonys-claim-in-recent-ownership-lawsuit>

    The fundamental issue itself isn?t new; what?s new is it is coming to
    a head now that Sony wants to do away with the sale of physical media,
    leaving buyers with nothing they can call their own, if and when the
    company should decide to make a product simply disappear, as it has
    done in the past.

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  • From Lane W@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, September 12, 2026 18:55:57
    Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    There is a class-action lawsuit against Sony claiming that it doesn?t
    make it clear, when clicking buttons marked ?Buy? and ?Purchase? while
    paying for PlayStation games, that in fact the customer is buying
    nothing resembling a property right, just a limited, revocable licence
    to play the game.

    Sony wants the suit thrown out on the grounds that ?reasonable?
    customers would not be misled into believing that they own what they
    buy.

    To counter that, a group called the Consumer Rights Wiki has compiled
    a list of instances, up to 44 long and counting, where Sony does quite clearly say that buyers ?own? what they buy.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/playstation/consumer-rights-wiki-documents-at-least-44-instances-in-which-sony-says-you-own-your-games-project-is-direct-assault-on-sonys-claim-in-recent-ownership-lawsuit>

    The fundamental issue itself isn?t new; what?s new is it is coming to
    a head now that Sony wants to do away with the sale of physical media, leaving buyers with nothing they can call their own, if and when the
    company should decide to make a product simply disappear, as it has
    done in the past.

    Notice that Sony does nothing to assure people that they won't
    "disappear" their games, but is relentlessly focused elsewhere in the
    lawsuit.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Nuno Silva@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, September 13, 2026 08:25:01
    On 2026-09-13, Lane W wrote:

    Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    There is a class-action lawsuit against Sony claiming that it doesn?t
    make it clear, when clicking buttons marked ?Buy? and ?Purchase? while
    paying for PlayStation games, that in fact the customer is buying
    nothing resembling a property right, just a limited, revocable licence
    to play the game.

    Sony wants the suit thrown out on the grounds that ?reasonable?
    customers would not be misled into believing that they own what they
    buy.

    To counter that, a group called the Consumer Rights Wiki has compiled
    a list of instances, up to 44 long and counting, where Sony does quite
    clearly say that buyers ?own? what they buy.

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/playstation/consumer-rights-wiki-documents-at-least-44-instances-in-which-sony-says-you-own-your-games-project-is-direct-assault-on-sonys-claim-in-recent-ownership-lawsuit>

    The fundamental issue itself isn?t new; what?s new is it is coming to
    a head now that Sony wants to do away with the sale of physical media,
    leaving buyers with nothing they can call their own, if and when the
    company should decide to make a product simply disappear, as it has
    done in the past.

    Notice that Sony does nothing to assure people that they won't
    "disappear" their games, but is relentlessly focused elsewhere in the lawsuit.

    It's perhaps worth mentioning that this is Sony. So anyone expecting
    good will or reasonable intents from Sony better gear up for
    disappointment.

    These are the people who insisted in selling non-CD-DA "audio CDs", that required a Windows (according to wiki, on some versions MacOS would do
    too?) system and which installed malware. Malware in which Sony
    committed copyright and GPL violations.

    Massive overengineering for pure evil, privacy violations and possibly
    causing wide damage by installing malware, instead of using CD-DA...

    <https://enwp.org/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal>

    --
    Nuno Silva

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