• Some Personal Spam Trivia

    From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Sunday, August 16, 2026 23:29:35
    I run my own mail server for my domain. Volumes are low enough that
    running a greylist (blocking all the drive-by spammers) gets rid of
    90% of the crap.

    As for the rest, I had set up lists of blocked senders and recipients (addresses I have declared invalid on my domain) in Postfix. Then, a
    few months ago, I decided I would like to collect statistics on how
    often these list entries are hit, and I couldn?t be bothered to scan
    logfiles to do it.

    So a few months ago I implemented a ?socketmap server? <https://www.postfix.org/socketmap_table.5.html> which responds to
    lookup requests from Postfix for those lists, gets the information
    from back-end database tables in MariaDB, and also logs entries in
    other database tables to record the requests.

    This makes it easy for me to add/remove entries in those blocklists,
    without having to restart Postfix (or my socketmap server). And I can
    pull back statistics on database lookups at any time.

    The first thing I?ve noticed so far, the most commonly-used rejection
    entry in the blocked-sender table is the one that refuses mail from
    the entire ?.shop? TLD. I have never done any business with any site
    with such a domain; has anybody else done so? My feeling is, no
    reputable business has such a site.

    As for blocked recipients, I am fond of giving out different recipient addresses to different online forums and businesses and anybody else
    who needs to contact me. This way, I can spot immediately if an
    address I gave to one entity starts being used for mail coming from an
    entirely different entity.

    One or two online sites were too trusting in their early days about
    letting web scrapers glean email addresses from their user pages. I
    did later go in and enter new addresses on these sites, and invalidate
    the old ones, and they haven?t repeated the same mistake. But one of
    those old addresses keeps popping up, in some interestingly-corrupted
    forms.

    The address I originally entered took the form ?from-®forum¯@®domain?.
    I still get attempts to send mail to that (now invalid) address, but
    also to ?u003cfrom-®forum¯@®domain?. And more recently also to ?cfrom-®forum¯@®domain? -- addresses which I have never used anywhere.

    That ?u003c? looks like a corruption of ?U+003C?, which would be how
    you would write the Unicode code point for the ?<? character (which is
    of course commonly used to delimit email addresses and URLs and such).
    I suspect the ?cfrom? version is a further corruption of the
    ?u003cfrom? one.

    I also get email sent to an address I haven?t used since my Apple
    Macintosh days, which would have been over a quarter century ago.

    I guess this goes to show that the spammers? address lists can only
    grow over time, they can never remove any address as the lists are
    passed on, just in case it is still valid, because by the nature of
    their business they can never pay any attention to bounces that are
    supposed to indicate invalid addresses.

    And that passing on of lists introduces its own corruptions, as well.

    I wonder how big the spammers? email lists are these days? I have this
    feeling the number of entries in typical lists might have exceeded the
    entire population of the Earth by now ...

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Adrian@3:633/10 to All on Monday, August 17, 2026 13:57:52
    In message <115th4u$i82b$1@dont-email.me>, Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes
    I run my own mail server for my domain. Volumes are low enough that
    running a greylist (blocking all the drive-by spammers) gets rid of
    90% of the crap.


    <big snip for brevity>

    Very interesting.

    I have my own domain, but don't run my own server. Like you, I tend to
    give new non-personal contacts their own unique email address, and for
    the same reasons.

    The mail server I use allows me to filter on amongst other things the addressee (to, cc or bcc). I have a number of addresses that are now
    marked as delete on arrival. These aren't strictly deleted, but end up
    in the server's waste basket, so can be examined, then properly deleted.

    The volume varies from day to day, but rarely into double figures.
    Headers suggest that much of it may be coming from Russia, which I
    haven't bothered to verify. Oddly, I rarely get any on a Friday or
    Saturday.

    A while back, I started to record how many of these I was getting.
    Almost all of them went to one of two addresses, one of which is the
    address I use on Usenet, the other is either a message or an email ID (I forget which). The software I use by default sets this to be a character string @ domain name, which of course is the same format as an email
    address.

    Very little spam actually gets delivered.

    Adrian
    --
    To Reply :
    replace "bulleid" with "adrian" - all mail to bulleid is rejected
    Sorry for the rigmarole, If I want spam, I'll go to the shops
    Every time someone says "I don't believe in trolls", another one dies.

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)
  • From Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir@3:633/10 to All on Tuesday, August 18, 2026 12:20:55
    Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@NZ.invalid> wrote: |------------------------------------------------------------------|
    |"[. . .] my Apple |
    |Macintosh days, which would have been over a quarter century ago."| |------------------------------------------------------------------|

    Hello!

    Is there something wrong with an Apple Macintosh?

    "The best way to accelerate a Macintoy is at 9.8 meters per second per
    second."
    says
    /usr/share/games/fortunes/computers
    since many years before MacOS X and Intel Apples.
    (S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

    --- PyGate Linux v1.5.19
    * Origin: Dragon's Lair, PyGate NNTP<>Fido Gate (3:633/10)