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    From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, August 06, 2026 06:45:38
    Observe the following discussion thread. Someone posted an
    announcement about reworking the Asterisk test suite with the help of
    AI; the first response is mine.

    Then, a few hours later, the second response appeared.

    <https://community.asterisk.org/t/need-help-testing-testsuite-untwisted/113807>

    Thoughts?

    By the way, that second respondent?s posting history is hidden for
    some reason, while mine is not.

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  • From Jeffrey Bagely@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, August 06, 2026 20:53:19
    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 06:45:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:

    Observe the following discussion thread. Someone posted an announcement
    about reworking the Asterisk test suite with the help of AI; the first response is mine.

    Then, a few hours later, the second response appeared.

    <https://community.asterisk.org/t/need-help-testing-testsuite-untwisted/
    113807>

    Thoughts?

    By the way, that second respondent?s posting history is hidden for some reason, while mine is not.

    Thats odd, I only see your response. Not this mythical 2nd one you speak
    of?

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  • From Rich@3:633/10 to All on Thursday, August 06, 2026 21:38:03
    Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 06:45:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:

    Observe the following discussion thread. Someone posted an
    announcement about reworking the Asterisk test suite with the help
    of AI; the first response is mine.

    Then, a few hours later, the second response appeared.

    <https://community.asterisk.org/t/need-help-testing-testsuite-untwisted/
    113807>

    Thoughts?

    By the way, that second respondent?s posting history is hidden for
    some reason, while mine is not.

    Thats odd, I only see your response. Not this mythical 2nd one you
    speak of?

    Lawrence is usually trolling, so lack of a mythical 2nd response would
    be very much in keeping with his normal trolling.

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Friday, August 07, 2026 00:18:04
    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 20:53:19 -0000 (UTC), Jeffrey Bagely wrote:

    By the way, that second respondent?s posting history is hidden for
    some reason, while mine is not.

    Thats odd, I only see your response. Not this mythical 2nd one you
    speak of?

    Not only has the posting disappeared, but their user page <https://community.asterisk.org/u/arz-host> has gone as well.

    Looks like some moderator has taken action. Good riddance, anyway. ;)

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  • From Jeffrey Bagely@3:633/10 to All on Friday, August 07, 2026 01:00:45
    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 21:38:03 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote:

    Lawrence is usually trolling, so lack of a mythical 2nd response would
    be very much in keeping with his normal trolling.

    appreciate the warning lol

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  • From Jim Jackson@3:633/10 to All on Friday, August 07, 2026 16:34:07
    On 2026-08-06, Jeffrey Bagely <6cf6e82302@darkc0de.one> wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Aug 2026 06:45:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D???Oliveiro wrote:

    Observe the following discussion thread. Someone posted an announcement
    about reworking the Asterisk test suite with the help of AI; the first
    response is mine.

    Then, a few hours later, the second response appeared.

    <https://community.asterisk.org/t/need-help-testing-testsuite-untwisted/
    113807>

    Thoughts?

    By the way, that second respondent???s posting history is hidden for some
    reason, while mine is not.

    Thats odd, I only see your response. Not this mythical 2nd one you speak
    of?

    I saw the response - it was not mythical. It certainly looked weird, and plagarising.

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Friday, August 07, 2026 21:52:51
    On Fri, 7 Aug 2026 16:34:07 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote:

    I saw the response - it was not mythical. It certainly looked weird,
    and plagarising.

    Here?s a copy from my email notification:

    I had a quick look through this commit and noticed a couple of
    small things that might be worth considering.First, there are a
    few `asyncio.ensure_future()` calls where the returned task isn?t
    stored anywhere.From the docs, it looks like keeping a reference
    to the task is recommended so it doesn?t get garbage-collected
    while still running. `asyncio.create_task()`might be a better fit
    here, or a `TaskGroup` could help manage the references
    automatically.

    Also noticed `_connect_async()` could be written a little more
    cleanly by using an `else` block after the exception handling.
    That keeps the successful connection path separate from the retry
    case and makes the flow a bit easier to follow.

    One other minor thing: explicitly inheriting from `object` isn?t
    needed in Python 3 anymore. It doesn?t hurt, but it can be removed
    for simplicity.

    This appeared a few hours after my own posting <https://community.asterisk.org/t/need-help-testing-testsuite-untwisted/113807/2>.

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  • From Jim Jackson@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 08, 2026 07:18:16
    On 2026-08-07, Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Aug 2026 16:34:07 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote:

    I saw the response - it was not mythical. It certainly looked weird,
    and plagarising.

    Here???s a copy from my email notification:

    I had a quick look through this commit and noticed a couple of
    small things that might be worth considering.First, there are a
    few `asyncio.ensure_future()` calls where the returned task isn???t
    stored anywhere.From the docs, it looks like keeping a reference
    to the task is recommended so it doesn???t get garbage-collected
    while still running. `asyncio.create_task()`might be a better fit
    here, or a `TaskGroup` could help manage the references
    automatically.

    Also noticed `_connect_async()` could be written a little more
    cleanly by using an `else` block after the exception handling.
    That keeps the successful connection path separate from the retry
    case and makes the flow a bit easier to follow.

    One other minor thing: explicitly inheriting from `object` isn???t
    needed in Python 3 anymore. It doesn???t hurt, but it can be removed
    for simplicity.

    This appeared a few hours after my own posting
    <https://community.asterisk.org/t/need-help-testing-testsuite-untwisted/113807/2>.

    I fear that such things are going to become a lot more commonplace. Just
    look at the web-scraping and "fake" (parasitic?) websites that existed
    before this surge in AI stuff. It can only get worse.



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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 08, 2026 07:30:46
    On Sat, 8 Aug 2026 07:18:16 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote:

    I fear that such things are going to become a lot more commonplace.
    Just look at the web-scraping and "fake" (parasitic?) websites that
    existed before this surge in AI stuff. It can only get worse.

    Scraping public forums for info is one thing. Then posting stuff back
    to the same forum as though you came up with it -- and in a
    mish-mashed form, lacking important details from the original -- that
    I would say is a step too far.

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  • From Nuno Silva@3:633/10 to All on Saturday, August 08, 2026 09:13:27
    On 2026-08-08, Jim Jackson wrote:

    On 2026-08-07, Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Aug 2026 16:34:07 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson wrote:

    I saw the response - it was not mythical. It certainly looked weird,
    and plagarising.

    Here???s a copy from my email notification:

    I had a quick look through this commit and noticed a couple of
    small things that might be worth considering.First, there are a
    few `asyncio.ensure_future()` calls where the returned task isn???t
    stored anywhere.From the docs, it looks like keeping a reference
    to the task is recommended so it doesn???t get garbage-collected
    while still running. `asyncio.create_task()`might be a better fit
    here, or a `TaskGroup` could help manage the references
    automatically.

    Also noticed `_connect_async()` could be written a little more
    cleanly by using an `else` block after the exception handling.
    That keeps the successful connection path separate from the retry
    case and makes the flow a bit easier to follow.

    One other minor thing: explicitly inheriting from `object` isn???t
    needed in Python 3 anymore. It doesn???t hurt, but it can be removed
    for simplicity.

    This appeared a few hours after my own posting >><https://community.asterisk.org/t/need-help-testing-testsuite-untwisted/113807/2>.

    I fear that such things are going to become a lot more commonplace. Just look at the web-scraping and "fake" (parasitic?) websites that existed before this surge in AI stuff. It can only get worse.

    They still do exist and rank on top of Google searches, don't they? That
    was one of the two outcomes of Google priorizing "Chrome on
    Android-friendly" websites in the results... (the other was loss of
    content and information, as several entities just revamped their sites
    to appeal to Googlebot, dropping e.g. drivers and manuals in the
    process)

    --
    Nuno Silva

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